Slides reveal Intel's entire 10th-gen series: Up to 5.3 GHz and 10 cores

[Darth Shiv]

Gen4 M.2 drives not only "take advantage" of PCI-E 4, they're already pushing the limits. GB's Aorus gets you 5GB/s sequential, and the upcoming Lexar SSD will have an insane 7GB/s. The theoretical maximum for PCI-E 4.0 x4 is 7.88 GB/s...

I don't know what Intel were thinking with this glaring omission.

As a purist I agree it's crap how they sit far behind. From an economics perspective, what percentage of users make use of it? Pretty low... surely < 5% probably less.

 

[Adi6293]

With these chips slide into my z370 board?

Nope.......

 

[DaveBG]

This is the definition of too little too late...

 

[motoDrizzt]

No new mobo because, no new chipset, no new features.

Socket LGA 1200. New motherboards and new chipset. Already announced in October.

Intel needs to change chipset because of the lack of new features.

 

[Mithan]

Gen4 M.2 drives not only "take advantage" of PCI-E 4, they're already pushing the limits. GB's Aorus gets you 5GB/s sequential, and the upcoming Lexar SSD will have an insane 7GB/s. The theoretical maximum for PCI-E 4.0 x4 is 7.88 GB/s...

I don't know what Intel were thinking with this glaring omission.

They are stuck, nothing more. They didn't add pci4 because they thought the other design would be ready. It's not, they pulled this out quick, and voila... They have something to compete with, like hyper threaded core i5's with 6 core, which are pretty awesome.


Smart people need to skip this though.

 

[Fabbkk]

With these chips slide into my z370 board?

In your dream
Intel : new CPU = new chipset then new motherboard

 

[ZackL04]

In your dream
Intel : new CPU = new chipset then new motherboard

these fn guys. I just figured since its another 14nm chip there was a shot...

 

[QuantumPhysics]

What size AIO?

 

[QuantumPhysics]

What size AIO?

If you use onefan/radiator per component the temperatures are just fine.

 

[hahahanoobs]

Socket LGA 1200. New motherboards and new chipset. Already announced in October.

Intel needs to change chipset because of the lack of new features.

Show me.

 

[ATAC9093]

No new mobo because, no new chipset, no new features.
Yup. AMD is awesome for not "making" us change mobo.....



Fail how? Far more optimization and performance (clocks+IPC+memory latency) for Intel, versus far less optimization for MT for AMD....

Not everyone plays Cinebench.

Optimization that they claimed was already top tier several times over. I'm all for competition in the cpu market space, but Intel has been caught with their pants down for the last 2 years and have nothing to show for it except for 'here is another few cores'. The most interesting thing I see is that their low end offerings will finally have substance to them. Other than that, it feels like watching a ship sink on the 14nm+++++ boat.

 

[Boshum]

I'd like to replace family computer #2 and #3 this coming year. It might be fun to do one of the new i3's for one of them. Maybe Intel has worked a little magic with them besides hyperthreading, though an i7-7700 is no slouch for budget prices. It's been a while now.

 

[hahahanoobs]

Optimization that they claimed was already top tier several times over. I'm all for competition in the cpu market space, but Intel has been caught with their pants down for the last 2 years and have nothing to show for it except for 'here is another few cores'. The most interesting thing I see is that their low end offerings will finally have substance to them. Other than that, it feels like watching a ship sink on the 14nm+++++ boat.

Intel hasn't released their Bulldozer yet. You got a long wait before that happens....

 

[Boshum]

Intel hasn't released their Bulldozer yet. You got a long wait before that happens....

Well, that Pentium 4 had a reputation all it's own. They just didn't stick with it as long. Oh wait, I just checked and I'm wrong..they had it for 8 years. Though I don't think all models were bad if memory serves.

 

[hahahanoobs]

Well, that Pentium 4 had a reputation all it's own. They just didn't stick with it as long. Oh wait, I just checked and I'm wrong..they had it for 8 years. Though I don't think all models were bad if memory serves.

Intel didn't need 5 years off to come up with Core 2, did they?

 

[Bluescreendeath]

Yeah... but how hot will they run? Will you need your own personal nuclear power station-style cooling tower outside your house to cool it?

Intel is basically putting out their equivalent of Bulldozers now. Cramming as many cores as they can in an attempt to keep up while throwing power efficiency out the window and disregarding thermals and TDP.

 

[cliffordcooley]

I can't believe I just read someone say. Intel is throwing efficiency out the window. After all these years of supporting AMD and their core counts. Intel doesn't currently have anything even remotely close to the crap Bulldozer was. And talking about core count, last I looked AMD still has a higher core count in order to compete.

 

[Hardware Geek]

As a purist I agree it's crap how they sit far behind. From an economics perspective, what percentage of users make use of it? Pretty low... surely < 5% probably less.

Probably less than less than 5?

 

[Hardware Geek]

Socket LGA 1200. New motherboards and new chipset. Already announced in October.

Intel needs to change chipset because of the lack of new features.

Bahahahaha! Right?

 

[Hardware Geek]

Well, that Pentium 4 had a reputation all it's own. They just didn't stick with it as long. Oh wait, I just checked and I'm wrong..they had it for 8 years. Though I don't think all models were bad if memory serves.

I had a Pentium 4 desktop and laptop for work that were both ridiculously fast for the time. Good times.

 

[Hardware Geek]

Intel is basically putting out their equivalent of Bulldozers now. Cramming as many cores as they can in an attempt to keep up while throwing power efficiency out the window and disregarding thermals and TDP.

Bingo

 

[JimboJoneson]

Yeah... but how hot will they run? Will you need your own personal nuclear power station-style cooling tower outside your house to cool it?

What are you on about? Latest rumour circulating is that it'll hit 5.5 GHz on air!! All core OC!! Just wait and see!!

 

[Lew Zealand]

Intel didn't need 5 years off to come up with Core 2, did they?

Pentium 4 - 11/2000
Core 2 - 07/2006

The difference is that the P4 was reasonably competitive while being a power hog. Bulldozer was simply not competitive. Intel 14mm++++++ is competitive while being a power hog, just like the P4. Intel's chips have always been good, but only sometimes are they great. AMDs chips have *not* always been good, though like Intel sometimes they are great.

 

[JimboJoneson]

Pentium 4 - 11/2000
Core 2 - 07/2006

The difference is that the P4 was reasonably competitive while being a power hog. Bulldozer was simply not competitive. Intel 14mm++++++ is competitive while being a power hog, just like the P4. Intel's chips have always been good, but only sometimes are they great. AMDs chips have *not* always been good, though like Intel sometimes they are great.

Intel had to scrap years of designs and long term planning after AMD64 launched - all their roadmaps got completely screwed over and they had to start again fresh, that contributed to the length of time it took them to get Core worked out.

They introduced 64 bit into the P4 line as an afterthought, but had to greatly sacrifice cache size with that design to make it work I think was the issue, then needed to scrap all the subsequent Pentium roadmaps and rebuild from the ground up with 64 bit. I believe they used Pentium3 as the starting base for Core, but I might be wrong there - memory is a bit sketchy -- its been a while!

 

[Lew Zealand]

Intel is basically putting out their equivalent of Bulldozers now. Cramming as many cores as they can in an attempt to keep up while throwing power efficiency out the window and disregarding thermals and TDP.

Nope. Intel's chips are power hogs and not competitive on very heavily multithreaded apps, but those are not what the vast majority of users need or use. Intel is competitive/superior at gaming and lightly threaded tasks though the margin is small, below what the vast majority of users will notice.

Bulldozer was not competitive at practically everything and users should notice the difference. Though I wonder if you put a user in front of a similarly configged FX and Sandy Bridge to Haswell i5, doing typical office tasks would they actually notice?