Some Ryzen 7 9800X3D CPUs are dying unexpectedly, mostly on Asrock motherboards – is user error to blame?

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In brief: AMD's Ryzen 7 9800X3D remains an incredibly popular CPU, especially among gamers. But it seems not every buyer is having a good experience. There have been over 100 cases of owners whose chips have died after working for a short amount of time, and for no obvious reason.

Reddit user natty_overlord compiled a list of all 108 Reddit posts involving a Ryzen 7 9800X3D that died. The chips passed POST and worked for varying amounts of time before dying with no signs of failure.

What's interesting is the brand of motherboard these failures occurred on. 98 of the cases, or 82%, happened on Asrock boards, though that could be due to their popularity as a more budget-friendly board maker. Tom's Hardware notes that the company released a new firmware update for AM5 motherboards in February that improved boot problems in AMD 9000 series CPUs. Whether those issues are related to the dying chips is unclear.

Also read: AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D Review: The New Gaming CPU King

The rest of the boards are made up of 16 from Asus, 5 from MSI, and 1 from Gigabyte.

natty_overlord also tallied the cases based on chipset. The largest number of incidents, 49, occurred on X870, followed by B850 (36), B650 (16), and X670 (7). Being a relatively new chip, it's not too surprising that most of the cases happened on the latest 800-series boards.

The time it took for the CPUs to experience failure ranged from just half and hour to a few months.

Several cases of Ryzen 7 9800X3D chips mysteriously dying surfaced earlier this year. One Redditor said he built a brand-new PC with an Asrock X870 motherboard that ran smoothly without overclocking or high temperatures. But the system shut down after about three weeks while he was watching TV. Upon inspection, the 9800X3D chip and motherboard showed severe thermal damage (below).

The situation brings to mind the overheating problems in the Ryzen 7000X3D CPUs from a couple of years ago that were related to AMD EXPO profiles and SoC voltages. It led to Asus updating its warranty policy for AM5 motherboards following an investigation by Gamers Nexus.

It's worth remembering that while over 100 incidents is no small number, there are thousands of Ryzen 7 9800X3D sold every month. It was initially difficult to buy the chips as they were sold out everywhere, something AMD blamed on Intel's "horrible" CPU release (Arrow Lake desktop). Moreover, some of these failures will likely have been due to user error, as was the case with one of the first reported instances of 9800X3Ds burning up in November.

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Motherboards are so badly made nowadays...

TBF, motherboard makers are reliant on the CPU manufacturers power profiles to not fry the chips. We're long in the age where chips are going to clock up aggressively on their own based on power/thermal draw, and if those profiles are not correct across their entire range things could go sideways.
 
TBF, motherboard makers are reliant on the CPU manufacturers power profiles to not fry the chips. We're long in the age where chips are going to clock up aggressively on their own based on power/thermal draw, and if those profiles are not correct across their entire range things could go sideways.
Yeah, but let's be honest... poor manufacturing quality and shitty bios settings are the norm now. Random power spikes, voltages that go well beyond the recommended specs "by mistake", crappy VRM, baffling decisions for power delivery, buggy bios updates and the most obvious problem: poor testing.

it's been known for a long time the most bios "teams" for these board partners are just 1 or 2 people working on everything :)

AMD is also at fault with bad AGESA updates. They should also catch these problems before the bios updates are released to the public.
 
It's not just budget mbs destroying these cpus.

And ASRock and AMD have been completely silent about it. Not a good sign.
 
In my 35+ yrs of building pcs ASRock has been the only board that has ever died on me.

Sample size of one... Take with grain of salt.
 
100 CPUs of how many sold ? We're talking world wide. Nothing to worry about yet.

Yeah c'mon people, this is AMD, we'll need at least a 100 times this amount before we can ask how it is possible for a modern CPU to be installed such a way that it can destroy itself and its socket. Can we stay focused on Nvidia already?
 
TBF, motherboard makers are reliant on the CPU manufacturers power profiles to not fry the chips. We're long in the age where chips are going to clock up aggressively on their own based on power/thermal draw, and if those profiles are not correct across their entire range things could go sideways.
Nah, they "forget" CPUs in boost mode eternally and stuff. Ridiculous bunch.
 
What a year it's started off to be for PC Gaming (hardware) with GPU pricing, Intel Struggling, availability of some hardware and scalpers, melted connectors and cables among it all (and more), now possible AMD X3D issue(s). Intel has to be kicking themselves (for being) unable to bring other models of Battlemage to market and deliver a solid CPU the market will buy as much or more than AMD X3D CPU.
 
Some people will destroy just anything.and then do some will tell to rma, it was trying to run it at 6 ghz and it dit . nooo lol. I just run it stock and it die watching techspot (cpuburn) everybody just lie to get warranty
 
The fact that it's on several different brands says it's not a problem with a single manufacturer.
I'm not too surprised this is happening on the chip maker that cuts the most corners.
 
I gather it's only the 9000 X3D parts, right? That would suggest either a firmware bug that is exclusive to the latest X3D parts or some quality control issue at TSMC.
 
Boy, imagine if someone tried using this logic with NVIDIAs new power connector, or Intels 13000 series CPUs dying.

We'll never know, because those failures are many, many, multiples higher.

P.S. See the GN video.
 
Gamers Nexus got hold of one of these failed boards.....it's worth a look.


TLDR: their investigation found user error in cpu installation.

Recommendation: install on a flat surface. Take your time. After cpu is in the socket, apply a very gentle nudge to ensure it's correctly seated within the guides. Close the socket latch gently.
 
Boy, imagine if someone tried using this logic with NVIDIAs new power connector, or Intels 13000 series CPUs dying.
Just look at the post above and GN findings ! If it was a real CPU issue, we wouldn't be talking 100. That's all I meant, everything has to be taken in context, and the numbers ARE the context.
 
Yeah c'mon people, this is AMD, we'll need at least a 100 times this amount before we can ask how it is possible for a modern CPU to be installed such a way that it can destroy itself and its socket. Can we stay focused on Nvidia already?
Agreed, let's focus on Ngreedya, as every market they touch is turned into ashes.
 
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