AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D outsells entire Ryzen 9000 non-X3D series, says German retailer

[Shawn Knight]

What just happened? AMD's Ryzen 7 9800X3D CPU is selling exceptionally well – at least, according to one retailer. Mindfactory, a German-based electronics store known for sharing sales figures with the public, recently revealed that it has sold 8,650 units since the chip's launch late last year.

That's not a colossal figure by any means, but it does have some relevance when put into perspective. For one, we're dealing with a single retailer. What's more, the 8,650 units sold is more than the sum of all other Ryzen 9000 series CPUs sold by Mindfactory to date (then again, that might not be saying much).

AMD's Ryzen 7 9800X3D arrived on November 7, 2024, and was quickly crowned the new gaming CPU king. The $479 MSRP didn't deter buyers as the chip sold out at popular retailers in no time. Scalpers, seeking an opportunity, started flipping chips for huge profits. Prices have since come down on third-party marketplaces, with recent sales on eBay in the $600 range. That is about $120 over retail but far less than the $1,500 the chips were commanding not all that long ago.

While AMD's latest is off to a solid start, it still has a lot of ground to cover to catch up to the fan-favorite 7800X3D. For comparison, Mindfactory has sold 78,420 units of the earlier model – or about nine times as many as the 9800X3D.

It is worth noting that AMD has additional 3D V-Cache chips in the pipeline, including a six-core Ryzen 5 9600X3D CPU that could generate a lot of buzz depending on its price and performance. AMD is also said to be prepping 12- and 16-core X3D processors that could arrive as soon as this month.

CES is just days away, so perhaps we'll here more from AMD on the subject sooner rather than later. The annual trade show formally kicks off in Las Vegas on January 7 and runs through the 10th. AMD's keynote is set for Monday at 2 pm Eastern.

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AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D outsells entire Ryzen 9000 non-X3D series, says German retailer

 

[Theinsanegamer]

Frankly the non x3d lineup has no place in DIY anymore. If you are DIY, you're usually either building a gaming machine (hello x3d) or you're building a little media PC, in which case the APUs are more appealing for low cost and stronger iGPU. The only real exception to this would be if you wanted a 16 core workstation for pro work but didnt want to buy an off the shelf model with official support, which is a pretty small niche in a niche.

 

[Dreadcthulhu]

Frankly the non x3d lineup has no place in DIY anymore. If you are DIY, you're usually either building a gaming machine (hello x3d) or you're building a little media PC, in which case the APUs are more appealing for low cost and stronger iGPU. The only real exception to this would be if you wanted a 16 core workstation for pro work but didnt want to buy an off the shelf model with official support, which is a pretty small niche in a niche.

The non- x3d chips do have a place in the DIY space; budget gaming machines. Of course, for that use case the 7500f or the 7600 are only a hair slower than the 9600x in most titles while being quite a bit cheaper. In general the non-x3d 9000s series chips being only mild improvements over the cheaper and readily available non-x3d 7000s chips has to be cutting into their sales a lot.

 

[clspie43]

On the other hand Mindfactory sold all of the 9800x3d's they could get.

 

[poshflamingos]

Sure, the 9800X3D is great, but the the main reason for this is that the rest of the 9000 series is worthless at the price they're currently at. If you're just gaming, the entire non-X3D 9000 lineup is invalidated by the existance of the Ryzen 7600 (or 7500F is you have access to that).

If you're buying a CPU for professional/workstation usage, in which case it pays for itself, only the 9950X makes sense. But that market segment is much smaller.

 

[Eldrach]

As the X3D chips clocks as high as the non X3D chips now - the only value of the non x3d would be if they had a much lower price point. The non x3d chips are still very good processors, but their previous production performance values over the x3d chips are no longer there

 

[HomeyBroDude]

I'm still on the 5950x and the 6950xt. Right now I see no reason to upgrade.

 

[cfenton]

The non- x3d chips do have a place in the DIY space; budget gaming machines. Of course, for that use case the 7500f or the 7600 are only a hair slower than the 9600x in most titles while being quite a bit cheaper. In general the non-x3d 9000s series chips being only mild improvements over the cheaper and readily available non-x3d 7000s chips has to be cutting into their sales a lot.

I don't think it's even confined to budget builds. The 9800X3D is really expensive and only provides a substantial benefit if you pair it with a top tier GPU. I think the 7600 or 7700 make more sense for most gaming builds that will be using something like a 4060 or 4070. I picked up a 7700X, b650 motherboard, 32GB RAM, and a CPU cooler for less than the MSRP of the 9800X3D. I'm glad that the 9800X3D exists, but I don't want it to be the only option.

 

[Thatsdisgusting]

Next time someone justify rtx4-5-6-7-090 price by telling the story about professional gpus and huge prosumer market that killed “ze-gamers” market, for proof they should find this article about professional 9950x cpu nailing “ze-gamers” 9800x3d in sales.

Oh wait…

 

[BbN48]

The 9800X3D is really expensive and only provides a substantial benefit if you pair it with a top tier GPU.

It is a bit expensive, yes. But to say it only provides substantial benefit with a top tier GPU? No.

It's much faster for general use/productivity if you are coming from something like a 3600 or 5600. And the biggest gains in games from the cpu comes from resolutions where you DON'T need a top tier gpu. At 4K there's hardly anything to be gained from the best cpu. At 1080p though? Lots of difference.

 

[cfenton]

It is a bit expensive, yes. But to say it only provides substantial benefit with a top tier GPU? No.

It's much faster for general use/productivity if you are coming from something like a 3600 or 5600. And the biggest gains in games from the cpu comes from resolutions where you DON'T need a top tier gpu. At 4K there's hardly anything to be gained from the best cpu. At 1080p though? Lots of difference.

The 7700 will be nearly as fast for general use and productivity and it costs about half of what the 9800X3D does. If productivity is your use case you can get a 7900 for less and a 7950 for a bit more. That's the comparison I was making.

As for 1080p, I bet there are a few games that are meaningfully CPU bound with a 4060 or 4070 and a 7700, but not many. In the reviews here they have the 4070 averages 124fps, while the 7700 averages 156fps. You need to get up to a 4080 before the average fps is higher on the GPU at 175fps.

 

[masaaya4]

Someone at Intel needs to wake up and start under-cover buying their own stock from Mindfactory so they can get free publicity due to "record sales" and in the process put an end to how one retailer is trusted so much in showing the trend for an entire industry.

 

[Tom Yum]

Someone at Intel needs to wake up and start under-cover buying their own stock from Mindfactory so they can get free publicity due to "record sales" and in the process put an end to how one retailer is trusted so much in showing the trend for an entire industry.

There is always that little retailer called Amazon and their CPU best sellers list https://www.amazon.com/Best-Sellers-Computer-CPU-Processors/zgbs/pc/229189, which currently has 9800X3D as the 3rd best selling CPU (behind the 7600X and 7800X3D). The first non-AMD CPU is at 12th place (12700K), with the 285K at 31st place. 9950X, 9900X, 9700X and 9600X are at 13th, 22nd, 10th and 33rd positions respectively.

But Amazon is a very niche retailer, so we shouldn't judge industry trends from them either I suppose.

 

[ChipBoundary]

Still an AMD product. Can't tell you how many systems I have to troubleshoot random problems on and it is an AMD almost every single time. AMD software and firmware sucks, always has, and it does to this day. I hope that changes someday, but that ain't today.

 

[theoneandonlymrk]

Someone at Intel needs to wake up and start under-cover buying their own stock from Mindfactory so they can get free publicity due to "record sales" and in the process put an end to how one retailer is trusted so much in showing the trend for an entire industry.

Surely that's just the same as Steam hardware surveys, they get rolled out by many and is frowned upon by too few, I agree with you though,people need better more varied data sources.

 

[msroadkill612]

There is always that little retailer called Amazon and their CPU best sellers list https://www.amazon.com/Best-Sellers-Computer-CPU-Processors/zgbs/pc/229189, which currently has 9800X3D as the 3rd best selling CPU (behind the 7600X and 7800X3D). The first non-AMD CPU is at 12th place (12700K), with the 285K at 31st place. 9950X, 9900X, 9700X and 9600X are at 13th, 22nd, 10th and 33rd positions respectively.

But Amazon is a very niche retailer, so we shouldn't judge industry trends from them either I suppose.

Newegg similarly publish less precise sales rankings which confirm Mindfactory results.