Men had created so many conveniences and amenities that every new men would simply be ... consumers. What an achievement!
this, this is one of the saddest and depressing articles ive read in a long long time.Schools in UK are removing analog clocks because some students (and these are high school kids) are having so much trouble reading them that it causes undo stress and anxiety.
Basic things that should be known and should be simple are starting to be phased out. This bit of news doesn't surprise me.
But if there's no file structure how do you remember what files you have? When I open a folder I have an idea of what's in it but not an exact one. And how exactly do they remember the name of every file to search for it?Exactly because they are surrounded by tech, they do not have to project ancient folder drawers, folder and files onto structures of data in their OS. They have quick search function. They do evolve and adapt to the environment so fast, the people remembering world without smartphone will have difficulty to understand and accept.
It is like saying, people using GUI can't even understand bash / DOS commands...
Things change, and so files and folders aren't as important as they once were.
I can accept that, difficult though it might be.
I used computers before some classes of ordinary users got to save things on the hard disk: first, a PDP-8/e which didn't even have one, and then a 360/67 with punched cards through a student batch facility. So I remember my joy at being able to save files on floppy disks with CP/M, or on an Apple ][ or on a Commodore 64.
People who are going to be programming computers, particularly at the systems level, do need to be aware of directory structures. I use an FTP program to keep my personal web site updated, and it has a directory structure. Some people, even today, do need to know about this stuff, even if casual users are getting by without it.
I said in the last 20 years, compared to before that, like 30-40-50 years, not 200 years ago.
Also education and intelligence while they do have common grounds they also have different ones.
There are a lot of "educated" people that believe in a lot of stupid/irrational or just wrong things. Access to knowledge and technology does not equal intelligence. It's what you do with that knowledge and technology that defines you as being more or less intelligent.
You don't have to believe me when I say the majority of people are more stupid now because of technology, because of ideologies and these so called politics, you just have to be alive 5 years from now and 10 years from now to remember how 2021 was and how worse it will be then...
People usually get on my case when I try to explain why I believe the Personal Computer as a mainstream device for the general public has no future, but stories like this is why: you underestimate just how many young people have no interest in computers.
In the past, even if most people could grow up without having to deal with computers at all many eventually got acquainted since it was a requirement for so many jobs but I also believe thin clients and tablets will quickly replace the work computer/laptop paradigm as well unless you're explicitly a developer of sorts: most office tasks like email, excel files, interacting with CRM or ERP systems, etc. Can already be done in a perfectly serviceable way with just a tablet so I wouldn't be surprised if most people's work will revolve around a docked tablet at best but often just a tablet device, certainly no need for a full operating system.
And as for home well, numbers don't lie: statistically most people online already don't have a laptop or computer at all and maintain their entire online presence through their mobile phones and tablets entirely, gaming and leisure fully contained on those and maybe a gaming console on top of it. It's hard to believe for people on a site dedicated to technology and focusing mostly on computers but overall we're the niche, the future developers: don't expect businesses that depend on computers being mainstream devices to continue for much longer it will be either really low or really high end devices with no middle ground and not a lot of these super convenient midrange systems we used to be able to purchase easily in the past.
Were they aging in the US, they'd be in deep do-do, as part of the Medicare test for senility, requires that you draw a picture of an analog clock at a specifically stated timeSchools in UK are removing analog clocks because some students (and these are high school kids) are having so much trouble reading them that it causes undo stress and anxiety.
Guess they will have to remove Big Ben too. Oh the humanity!Were they aging in the US, they'd be in deep do-do, as part of the Medicare test for senility, requires that you draw a picture of an analog clock at a specifically stated time
I dunno about you but Windows File Search isn't what I would call "quick". Windows XP had the fastest file search that I've ever seen and it's been broken ever since Windows 7.Exactly because they are surrounded by tech, they do not have to project ancient folder drawers, folder and files onto structures of data in their OS. They have quick search function. They do evolve and adapt to the environment so fast, the people remembering world without smartphone will have difficulty to understand and accept.
It is like saying, people using GUI can't even understand bash / DOS commands...
Oh man, tell me about it. I couldn't agree more.I'm not surprised at all, unlike some people, I can clearly see how humanity is getting more stupid every generation, in general, as a whole.
Yep. The upward trend in anti-vaxxers is definitely something that comes to mind.The trend is downwards and if identity politics, all the new *****ic ideologies, and all the other stupid things that exist and are pushed forward harder since the last 10-20 years - if these things are not signs enough, than those that don't see them are in the middle of the problem themselves.
We will see worse and worse times going forward and there is no cure or stopping what's coming...
I was lazy and stupid LOOONG before smart-tech came around.Smart-tech make people become lazy and stupid.
There is no question that what you're saying is correct. The only ones who would disagree are the young people themselves because they don't know any better.You don't have to believe me when I say the majority of people are more stupid now because of technology, because of ideologies and these so called politics, you just have to be alive 5 years from now and 10 years from now to remember how 2021 was and how worse it will be then...
Well, when I was in university, knowing how a file system works kept my work impeccably organised. Sure, XP had a REALLY fast file search but I only used it for finding game files that needed to be replaced for whatever mod I was installing.I don't see an issue with this, say you're a studying medicine, art, literature, science... How knowing files and folders concept help you in any way?
It's true. It's based on normal record-keeping practices. There's nothing about it that's rocket science.That's the least of educational problems. Files and folders can be taught in 30 seconds. If they don't get it by then they have other issues
Well, it does and it doesn't. A computer file system is based on directories and subdirectories. The idea of calling directories "folders" was probably based on people not understanding the term "directory" because they were older and more accustomed to the idea of paper file folders. I personally never understood the concept of calling directories "folders". I still call them directories.It is, but only if you have the context for it: remember that the concept of file and folder literally comes from filing cabinets for physical papers. Do you know many people outside of an entrenched government bureaucracy that still uses those?
If you never even got familiar with the concept of a filing cabinet you used to order physical papers and started using documents since he point in history in which everything is 100% digital and you just name it and then later search that name then thinking about a filing cabinet to organize documents it's just alien: You don't need the abstraction you just need the name and being organized can be summed up with just having a naming convention for example: "Chemistry - Semester - Date & specific subjec matter here" is intuitive enough for most people to figure out without needing to know what's a documents folder and what are the sub-folders, etc.
That's just stupid. It's not hard to read an analogue clock. We've been reading them, as a species, for over 1,000 years dating back to the sundial. How will these people be able to read a speedometer?Schools in UK are removing analog clocks because some students (and these are high school kids) are having so much trouble reading them that it causes undo stress and anxiety.
Basic things that should be known and should be simple are starting to be phased out. This bit of news doesn't surprise me.
I couldn't agree more. Knowing how to perform basic math is an essential life skill. My generation (X) started using calculators in secondary school because by then, we all knew how to do basic math and trying to do things like trigonometry or square roots on paper would take up the entire class. Simple arithmetic is something that you should be able to do in your head. More complicated arithmetic should only require a writing utensil and paper.This has been an issue for quite some time when it comes to doing math without a calculator.
My last job was tech support for POS provider - we had to troubleshoot hardware and software that was provided by my employer to the customers.
I can't even count how many times I've had a store call in because power was out or just came back up and registers weren't working.....employees that were on the other end of the phone didn't know how to figure out a customer's total without a computer or calculator. They couldn't figure out how to add, subtract or (a slightly more challenging one) add tax to an order without the register doing the math for them. Countless times when I'd be on the phone with these places the only one smart enough to do the math, 99% of the time, was the manager on duty. While I'd be trying to help these people resolve whatever issue was causing their system to not work, I'd also be doing the math for them in my head as they mumbled numbers while trying to write them down - this included the tax.
Why think for yourself when you can simply have a computer do it for you?
No, they've been doing that LONG before this became an issue.Explains why they constantly screw up new OS releases pretty much.
Well, to be fair, I'm sure that conversations like this occurred when people realised that the new generation didn't know how to make fire from flint and tinder.Men had created so many conveniences and amenities that every new men would simply be ... consumers. What an achievement!
I don't agree. I think that every time a revolutionary technology was introduced, a previous life skill that was once considered necessary became irrelevant. Like knowing how to make a fire or candles when electricity became widespread. We lost a few things but gained a tonne more. Sure, the intellectually inert might be more and more useless but the intellectually gifted have more tools to make the world better. Cars that drive themselves may make driving skills irrelevant but it would also mean the end of traffic fatalities. I think that's a fair trade-off. Sure people won't be able to drive but there's a tonne of people who already fit that description today.Free unlimited access to information is, frankly, going to be humanities downfall. For all it's benefits, the Internet was a massive mistake.
Well I hope that they don't have reading cursive script as another test because they'd be really screwed then!Were they aging in the US, they'd be in deep do-do, as part of the Medicare test for senility, requires that you draw a picture of an analog clock at a specifically stated time
that is complete bs what you have just written.
who is humanity? the majority or minority? do you really believe that 200 years ago humanity was more educated in general or that the most educated people were more educated than todays most educated people?
just the fact that part of the western population goes more consumer life style does not mean that the mankind gets more stupid in any measures. if something it might show the rotten educational system failing in its objectives or maybe it is just adapting to the needs so it is absolutely ok. most of the things I learned in schools is not needed in my life and I had to study the topics I was interested into on my own.
I see your point. Because even if you have that much knowledge at your finger tips how to do decipher good information from bad?Free unlimited access to information is, frankly, going to be humanities downfall. For all it's benefits, the Internet was a massive mistake.
Simple! How old are libraries? Send them to a library and have them find a book. The same concept applies to Files and Folders for PC.How can we expect people outside of IT to have a firm grasp on this? Thinking in specific structures is something that has to be taught.
Guess they will have to remove Big Ben too. Oh the humanity!
No, humanity was more educated 30 years ago, than today.... though. Humanity being/meaning the average US student.
Even a rebroadcast of old radio/TV interviews and personal recollection is illustrative of this. The average Teen and College grad, was more educated than today. Almost everyone knows this, except younglings who think they know everything, and done none of it.. AND FYI nobody cares what your interest are, only that you are well educated and a productive member of society. Taking care of your own..!
The point is:
Student need to learn.. and understand filing system and why they were invented and used..! It is knowledge... and one so logical that Other's who come afterwards, could use such a logical system to look things up and find what they need, intuitively.
Doing something with a different approach (as the Professor suggested), out of ignorance is unintelligent. Making something new, because you were not educated on old, is a waste of energy. That is why that Professor has failed his Students, because it doesn't take long to teach them about File System and how Libraries and PC work... it logical and easy.
5th grade stuff^... this Prof is just nann'ing his student and cow-towing to their ignorant cries.