Sony applies for RFID DRM patent that would block used games

[Guest]

So why would I buy the next Playstation ?

U just know that if u buy this new thing they are making
This is what u gone get... ( again )

 

[NaxxSystems]

Sony have really pissed me off recently. They used to be so respectable and reliable.

My little brother got a PS3 for christmas (the 12GB version because we're not well-off).

Turns out you're forced to install every game you play nowadays, so after playing 4-5 games, the hard drive is full, meaning he can't play any more games until he buys another 2.5" drive to put in there.

After dropping £40 on a 500GB WD Blue 5400rpm 2.5" drive, we realise you need to buy the "OFFICIAL SONY DRIVE CADDY" or some ****. £20 to get one in Britain.

Ended up bodging the hard drive into the bay using a variety of spares/scrap computer parts from my PC building days.

Even Microsoft are more honest than Sony are nowadays.

I don't know about the new models, but the first PS3 (the fat one) allowed you to simply install "any" 2.5" drive that fits... The physical size and storage size may be limited like with some old computers... Max storage size depends on the sata controller or the "bios"...

You do know it's possible to simply uninstall the games? Then install them when needed... The reason for installing is many thing... Loading time is one... Loading from disk, even blu-ray is not as fast as from a hard-disk... Deleting games should not delete saved games!

And FWY, Microsoft will in no way, ever be more honest than Sony... You can see the space required on the back of each game...

Consoles used to be the only way to play second-hand games, no keys, no registrations... It was easy as hell to lend games to friends and family. And when you got bored, you simply sold it...

Used games stores has become a big deal. Some stores even ask for used versions of new games, so if you buy a singleplayer game on it's release date, complete it within a week or so, go down to your local game store, trade it in for a gift card, you can almost get the same amount back as you paid for it.

The store now has an almost new game they can sell quite close to the retail price... One thing to remember, you got a gift card that you have to spend in this store!

Every time they earn money on a used game or you sell a used game privately, the company behind it doesn't get a single penny!

Why do you think the retail prices are so high for console games and not for PC games? PC games are usually lock to an account! Console games are not!

If this changes... And second-hand games no longer works... You would see some form for drop in price, simply because the sales total would go down... (I know second-hand games aren't counted as sold copies, but knowing you have to by new expensive games would keep certain people from buying the console and thereby games)

 

[Benny26]

I doubt I'll be buying a PS4 if it has a block on used games, that's where I get most of my games from.

It would be a bad bad move from Sony.

 

[Guest]

A friend of mine sometimes bring over his games for us to play on my PS3. Sometimes I like them enough to buy a copy for myself. I guess they don't want awful things like that to happen...

The second-hand game market is good for the industry in general even though they don't directly benefit from subsequent sales.

I bought a chair. I can sell that chair. Is the chair industry "suffering?"

Knowing you can get something back for the games you end up not liking helps when deciding to buy or not.

I would spend more overall on games if each one didn't cost so much. The same applied to audio CDs, but the recording industry (including Sony!) never got that particular clue.

 

[OneSpeed]

Back to XBOX!

 

[St1ckM4n]

Maybe the game will be matched to the active account on the console?

This would be good, and would make sense. But in that case, wouldn't you need to be connected to the internet all the time, in an alays-on-DRM fashion..?

 

[AusterityHeros]

Ok seriously: Sony I will actively avoid purchasing any kind of soft- or hardware from you for as long as I live.

I am absolutely sick to death of companies trying to wrap their customers - their legal customers I might add because the 'illegal' ones are never affected by this BS - in chains when they purchase a product.

This will increase piracy, ruin the second-hand market, which means ultimately less money and fewer people playing games or purchasing music.

Sony: GET STUFFED.

I guess it's time to go after the second hand sales of games now since it's hurting the industry and causing little kittens to die?
I mean wtf, limitations like these is just stupidity (or genius) at it's best.
Have several consoles in your home? Buy several copies of games.
Want to go over to your friends place and play a game you own? Buy several copies
Want to sell your crappy game that you bought at retail price? Forget it

Alternatively: Pirate. I'm not advocating it I'm just stating outright this is exactly and predictably what is going to happen. And then more BS SOPA/MPAA zombie legislation gets resurrected for the umpteenth time. Sickening.

 

[Jbucko]

Sony has always been this way console they have ever come out with they have done something shady just to get money. Just look at the Vita it has floppped maily because of the lack of games, but the memory card situation on that thing. You have to buy sony only memory cards that are expensive as hell. After that whole PS3 cracking feasco I have never trusted Sony and never will.

 

[Guest]

Sony to launch sports car with new type of engine that should almost perform better than standard engines if only anyone could ever work out how totune the damn thing..

It will launch at $15,000 but after a couple of years they will bring this down to $5,000
You can fill up at any petrol station that has the Sony pump nozzle incompatible with any other.
Gas should be cheap except that each gallon requires a $10 licence fee to Sony.
The gas will contain miniature rfid chips locked to your car when you filled up.
Gas without the rfid will not work
You cannot sell the car, ever.
If the car breaks down you must return it to Sony, who will, at their discretion charge you $25,000 to repair it or just junk it and tell you to buy a new one.

Specs for what gas it takes will not be released to non Sony refineries until one year after launch, and even then they will be wrong so that the car regularly chokes up.
Only licensed dealers will be sold the impossible to pirate pump nozzles at a cost of $10,000 each. Pirate nozzles will appear in China 6 months before launch at $7 each.

Few will buy the car, but they are enough that Sony will declare it a success even though it sells less than all its competitors everywhere except in the AsakusaBashi store.

It will be supported by ads that would make Rolling Stones and Motley Crew forswear drugs forever with an engine termed the emotion warp drive, (EW2x by their engineers).

 

[avoidz]

A friend of mine sometimes bring over his games for us to play on my PS3. Sometimes I like them enough to buy a copy for myself. I guess they don't want awful things like that to happen...

The second-hand game market is good for the industry in general even though they don't directly benefit from subsequent sales.

I bought a chair. I can sell that chair. Is the chair industry "suffering?"

Knowing you can get something back for the games you end up not liking helps when deciding to buy or not.

I would spend more overall on games if each one didn't cost so much. The same applied to audio CDs, but the recording industry (including Sony!) never got that particular clue.

I got given some PC games as a gift which I installed but didn't like and no longer play, so I uninstalled them. The boxes and discs sit on my shelf but there's nothing I can do to trade or re-sell them because they are tied to some account I had to create to install them. So they will have to go in the bin. What a waste.

 

[captaincranky]

Used games are not any different from a pirate copies to developers. No income either way for them. I have no problem with this single user approach, but I would like to see cheaper prices then, especially for electronic distribution.

Yeah, good luck with that..