MasterMace
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It depends on the capacity, speed, and whether it's rewriteable.
USB drives are faster, larger capacity, rewriteable, smaller format, and don't require the increasingly rare BluRay Drive.
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USB drives are faster, larger capacity, rewriteable, smaller format, and don't require the increasingly rare BluRay Drive.
Squid Surprise
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Even the cheapest USB flash drive is more expensive than a blank dvd which is less than 25 cents….
Yes, USBs are superior - but when you’re selling music/video, you don’t need it to be rewritable or high speed/capacity. Just enough to hold / play an album or movie.
MasterMace
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25c for a 4gb dvd, $1.25 for a 4gb USB. How much for the DVD drive to play it? USB ports are built into TVs and monitors, DVD players aren't.
Squid Surprise
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Older TVs can’t play certain stuff from those USB ports - and the cost of blu-ray/dvd players are irrelevant in this argument as they’re a one shot deal..
5 times the price is too much…
Burty117
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Here's a question, Which one lasts longer? If there's some family photos I want to keep for a life time for example, which would fail first? The Bluray/DVD or the USB Drive?
Assuming they're both locked away in cupboard somewhere, only really being moved rarely to have a look through them.
Well when bluray shuts down I'll go back to sailing the high seas, I won't "lease" a movie for $20-25 bucks, I will buy it but when you retain the right to revoke that right at anytime for any reason I don't own it, and I have no moral qualms about simply downloading a copy and storing it on my NAS.
Squid Surprise
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USB drives tend to last 5-10 years while blu-ray/dvd last 20-50 years….
But depends on usage… and discs can be scratched….
Burty117
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Then in my eyes, blu-ray/dvd is the superior format for archiving stuff regardless, cheaper and lasts longer, if slightly less convenient simply because you need a Drive around to playback or record (not exactly a deal breaker).
TommyBoyFL
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longest term would be magnetic tape or drive, as long as stored properly you get 100+ yr life span
Flash media is generally considered unsuitable for archiving, as the tech isn't designed for long term offline storage. Standard optical media is considered to have a 25 year lifespan under typical (household indoor) storage conditions, although standard BluRay may be considerably longer than CD/DVD.
MDisk tech is common for DVD and Blu-ray today. It requires a certified drive to write but can be read from a normal device. I'm currently shopping for a BluRay drive for archiving data and all 3 drives I've seen (LG, Asus, and Pioneer) are MDisk certified, as is all the media I've shopped, likely because archiving is the most common modern use for optical media.
Squid Surprise
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Yeah.... but you can't play a 4k movie from those...
no but if the goal is archival, you store it to that, and transfer it to high-speed storage for playback
LimyG
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I have a substantial library of Blu-ray, Blu-ray 4k, and yes, DVD (HBO series like Oz, Rome etc etc)
I watch all three. Regular DVDs are fine for old TV shows. My DVD player works great, and has a production date of 2024, (Panasonic s700). Regular 1080p Blu-Ray, amazingly still look great on the PS3! While the Superb, but expensive Panasonic DP-45-K (Japanese model) really takes 4k to the limit of that spec.
I know this article is slightly mis-leading as it's only recordable media that stops. But I really wonder what the future of Blu-ray, both 1080p and 4k consumer disks is.
I never stream.
I watch all three. Regular DVDs are fine for old TV shows. My DVD player works great, and has a production date of 2024, (Panasonic s700). Regular 1080p Blu-Ray, amazingly still look great on the PS3! While the Superb, but expensive Panasonic DP-45-K (Japanese model) really takes 4k to the limit of that spec.
I know this article is slightly mis-leading as it's only recordable media that stops. But I really wonder what the future of Blu-ray, both 1080p and 4k consumer disks is.
I never stream.
Squid Surprise
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It wasn't... it was for keeping your video library...
Well the guy I originally quoted said archival format his exact words which is why I told him to use tape or mechanical hard drives Go back and read what he asked
Burty117
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HDD's last I heard, are only good for 10-20ish years powered off before you potentially get checksum errors or the drive won't spin up at all. Overall, I'm seeing online that HDD's aren't a medium for archiving purposes unless it's short term.
Well my original comment didn't mention archiving, I used the word loosely in my second response to describe storing family photos long term with odd reading of the data every 5 years or potentially even less.
Tape is a complete no go because I can't easily retrieve a bunch of photo's or videos without hooking up to a computer, waiting ages for it to be stored somewhere, and then getting at the files.
USB sticks might not last long enough without power to be useful, Discs though, they last long enough and are easy enough to read photos/videos directly from them, not to mention, they're extremely cheap.
Neatfeatguy
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Get a couple of large storage HDDs and a blu-ray drive. Copy the movies/shows to a hard drive and back them up to a second drive. Then take the second drive and store it some place safe or in another computer so your data isn't sitting in one spot. That's what I do.
I've got three different drives with all my movies and TV shows on them. Nearly 1200 movies and roughly 50 complete TV series all backed up. I can play them on my DVD/Blu-ray players (two of them) or my PS3 (but that's in storage so I'd have to get it out if I needed it) or on my computer....oh, or use the Xbox Series X. It's easier for me to use Plex to watch my shows off my server over swapping out discs, but I always have the option of playing from the actual discs if I need to.
that's about it my friend , I have nearly a thousand movies on bluray and dvd's because the sound is better on blurays, they make all my home theater speakers come to life and the picture on my 75" Sony TV unlike streaming.Streaming is for lazy people
standard HDD's are a no go your correct, what your looking for is archival HDD's, these are way more expensive, spin slower, but are way more robust and will exceed the age of optical media, but your standard 1tb seagate on amazon for $30? nah that wont work
I bought the latest pioneer Blue-ray burners for my computer last year, ordered it from Amazon but it came all the way from Japan! USA compatible!! Writing and instructs were all in Japanese but works great! Sadly the large Blu-ray discs prices have jumped and prices for a 50 GB and up are unreasonable!
I have a 5TB Western Digital, (Seagate Sucks)I figure the mechanical ones will last as long if they are not hooked up turning all the time! I have an 80GB WD from 2001 that I check every once in a while and all the video files on it are still good!
it depends on the bearings, air medium and design, archival HDD's are designed for slow speeds but long term storage and use better quality bearings and other materials in construction but you will pay the premium
Thumb drives will only hold data for a limited period of time without being powered up!!
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