Study claims NSA phone data collection is useless in preventing terrorist attacks

By Justin Kahn ยท 15 replies
Jan 14, 2014
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  1. Ahead of President Obama's expected announcement of widespread NSA reform later this month, a new study brings the agency's mass phone data collection operation under fire saying that it has had no positive impact on preventing acts of terrorism.

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  2. Nobina

    Nobina TS Evangelist Posts: 1,339   +843

    NSA doesn't give a **** about preventing terrorist attacks, they just want to spy so ofcourse it is useless.
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  3. MilwaukeeMike

    MilwaukeeMike TS Evangelist Posts: 2,890   +1,224

    As strange as this may sound, I'm glad their spying wasn't doing much to help (if the study is to be believed). Now we can get rid of these programs without worrying much about the downside.

    @Nobina - it's not useless because they 'just want to spy' it's useless because the bad guys are smarter than the algorithms. Go figure, a human can outsmart a computer huh?
  4. If you are searching for Gold in a Hog Farm, you are not going to find Diamonds.

    They say there is no such thing as perfection. I have just proven 'them' wrong. That is the absolute perfect analogy.
  5. davislane1

    davislane1 TS Grand Inquisitor Posts: 4,739   +3,757

    No you didn't. That analogy is merely a logical fallacy dressed up with compelling rhetoric.
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  6. fimbles

    fimbles TS Evangelist Posts: 1,185   +208

    Better late than never I guess. The damage however has already been done and no tech company is going to set foot in the usa for some time.
  7. Neojt

    Neojt TS Addict Posts: 223   +56

    This study is valid IF "American telephone metadata, which includes the telephone numbers that originate and receive calls, as well as the time and date of those calls but not their content," is true

    and IF the ones they cauth with this system where brouth to trial rather than eliminated the threat

    just saying
  8. So.. the foiled attacks. how where they found out?
  9. treetops

    treetops TS Evangelist Posts: 2,073   +219

    Lol no one else sees this as a attempt to try and make terrorists more comfortable huh
  10. cliffordcooley

    cliffordcooley TS Guardian Fighter Posts: 9,738   +3,706

    I'd go so far as to say NSA spying provokes attacks. I know if I ever concretely found out they are actually taking effort to spy on me, it would provoke an attack. It doesn't matter if I am guilty or innocent, it would provoke an attack. I could only imagine those with power to strike back would not hesitate to do so. You don't prevent an attack by provoking it!
  11. Skidmarksdeluxe

    Skidmarksdeluxe TS Evangelist Posts: 8,647   +3,274

    I doubt very much anything will change within the NSA anytime soon.
  12. davislane1

    davislane1 TS Grand Inquisitor Posts: 4,739   +3,757

    I know you aren't suggesting this is our only surveillance/intelligence program?

    No.1 rule of government military and spy programs: If a civilian finds out about it, it's only the snowflake at the tip of the iceberg.
  13. captaincranky

    captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 13,028   +2,558

    How should we categorize this post? Perhaps something like, "inside the mind of someone who imagines they can see inside the mind of terrorists in general". Or maybe, "a broad generalization about the inner working of someone else's mind, based in pure paranoid speculation.

    No matter though, I want to be a "closet Osama Bin Laden", if I ever grow up too.....
  14. veLa

    veLa TS Evangelist Posts: 782   +235

    Don't buy the reformation part, that's totally phony. It's like committing a murder, getting caught for said murder, and then getting off scott free after pushing for anti-murder reforms.
  15. tonylukac

    tonylukac TS Evangelist Posts: 1,374   +69

    I don't know what happened to this country. Remember when we used to deport spys?
  16. Neojt

    Neojt TS Addict Posts: 223   +56

    Yeah now we import them from the rest of the stuff... its cheaper and almost just has good

    sry could not resist

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