Tech Tip of the Week: How I Keep Clean Without an Antivirus Guarding My System

By Jos · 38 replies
Sep 30, 2009
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  1. waqasr

    waqasr TS Rookie Posts: 20


    With Due respect , Please go back and read my posts again.
    I did mention that i do use online virus scanners, I have just not installed an AV on my system ever. "Been computing since 1997 and never installed an AV"
    I never advised any one to stop using AV , I was only talking about installing an AV and leaving it on 24/7.
    Another line from my previous post "There are other and better ways of making your PC more secure and stable then just relying on AV and leaving it on 24/7 thinking you’re safe. "
    Keywords " then just relying on AV "
  2. Tedster

    Tedster Techspot old timer..... Posts: 6,002   +15

    This was nonsense. This was like saying, "How do i keep dry when it is raining outside?"

    If you're going to use a computer and network it via the internet or some other means, YOU must have security software. If not, you're a fool.

    If it is a stand-alone computer that is NEVER connected to anything, and all the software you use is certified viri free, then perhaps.... but who does that?
  3. Hmmm....i guess using AV is no longer an issue as PC is getting much faster unless is an old system.....or else get an Apple......w/o AV one silly mistake is all it takes.....kaboom...hahaha
  4. Hmmm...dangerous advice! Unless only YOU use your PC, and you know all of the material on the web sites you visit. While I know my browsing habits are "clean and safe", my kids are not as internet savvy as myself...I'm a wizard, they are not, so being the good parent I have installed AV as well as firewall, anti-spyware, and "trusted" sites.
    As for the "go Mac or Linux" comments...get real. We're talking "real life", where 90 percent of the home users run some version of Windows...get over it, that's just the way it is. Sticking your head in the sand and ignoring the problem doesn't mean it goes away.
    Wiz <{;-)
  5. hellokitty[hk]

    hellokitty[hk] Hello, nice to meet you! Posts: 3,448   +145

    True, but that is changing, and Linux is free anyway. It just takes some effort.
    Actually I hate linux :(, but that doesn't mean its bad per se...
  6. Alexxandre

    Alexxandre TS Rookie

    I also recommend using a VM with snapshot enabled and unplugged from the network, to run the pesky programs that give you what you want and what you don´t want, also any good virus will just kill your AV or your AV will never detect them in case of 0 day exploits, and very very important is not to let anyone use your PC.
  7. T77

    T77 TS Enthusiast Posts: 300   +6

    at the end of the day,one still needs at least a free virus scanner.maybe windows and viruses go hand in hand :p

    its only the mac users that are truly free from this crap
  8. red1776

    red1776 Omnipotent Ruler of the Universe Posts: 5,224   +164

    technically true, but if only because its a relatively unpopular product. if mac became anywhere near as popular as windows, they would be a target as well.
  9. ob1kanobi

    ob1kanobi TS Rookie

    If one is new to computers and the internet (there is still a large % that are), avoid taking the details of this to thought until you are fully aware of the dangers. Online scans are susceptible to intruders and viruses too, especially when the Online Scan company needs you to download a script onto your computer then at the end of the scan tells you to take advantage of the full program click here which leads to a link to pay.
    I have used many various AV programs throughout the years, currently using Comodo.
  10. Lardy1664

    Lardy1664 TS Rookie

    It's all very well trying to run a pc without an AV programme but that can only really be an option if you are the only one using it.

    Most of modern day pc's are to be found in the family home and have many users accessing them and in my case at least 2 of the users are likely to click on a download without really knowing the possible consequences. BTW yes I have now set up individual accounts and limited their accounts to non-admin, the only downside of this is having to go to the pc each time they want to add an app. and get my blessing.
  11. The most important thing in staying malware-free is to remember to always close pop ups with ALT+F4 rather than clicking on them, as the "X" button is often not really the "X" button. If my customer's knew that I would lose lots of business on virus removals.
  12. jobeard

    jobeard TS Ambassador Posts: 11,138   +985

    A router + firewall + an LUA/UAC login is a very reasonable security configuration.
    Adding the Hosts file and Spywareblaster then helps with access issues.
    Then if the user is silly enough to access Poker, Prono, and P2P files, then nothing
    can protect the system from a dumb user.
  13. I agree with some of the other posters. This is a lot more work than just having an AV package. I have used many and found a good amount of them to perform well and actually protect me. The HOSTS file is a very good idea as is the firewall and a good router. I have decided to try another idea and it should be BULLETPROOF. I am going to do all my web surfing on a virtual machine. If I need to download something I can do it to my NAS drive and make sure it's scanned regularly. I will always have AV on my computers, it's just the smart thing to do.
  14. Row1

    Row1 TS Guru Posts: 343   +13

    I haven't used an active antivirus for years on my home system. I went through the same thought process and figured this out. We get spyware and other crap regularly. I run programs that detect this stuff. Probably the awesome hosts file from mvps is largely keeping me safe.

    I have a couple free antivirus programs on my comp, but not active. I have avg antitrojan. I have a couple spyware programs not-active. I just run them regularly. Plus, I leapfrog backup onto external drive.

    I do run and online scanner, usually trendmicro, when something funny seems to be going on.

    I guess my philosophy mainly runs on this: if you surf wisely generally, your main problem is from trojans. If you yourself are clicking to accept some download, you yourself are your own worst enemy - antivirus will not help you.

    With friends and family who have virus/trojan problems, this is pretty much the problem: they themselves click to accept the problem, rather than the problem jumping at them out of nowhere.

    I just don't opem those funny emailed pictures and weblinks. Except for the Polish digital clock (google if you have not seen the polish digital clock.)

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