Could you add a new 1000$ rig? there is a huge gap in performance and price between a 1050 (non ti card) and a 1070. And how about calling it "A rig for those who make money working a 9-5 job" 
TechSpot PC Buying Guide: A quick CPU/platform update for late 2017
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Both GPU and memory prices are crazy right now, so it's hard to budget accordingly. With this quick update we tried to round things up as usual, not everything has changed since July, but we wanted to bring the buying guide up to date with all the new CPU reviews and newer platforms released in the past few weeks.
My bad, honest mistake, we have adjusted that immediately.
Agreed.
The R5 is configurable, see here.
We wouldn't buy the Core i9s for $2k, but would buy Threadripper ourselves, so that's what we recommend.
The case is $40 + PSU, then you end up at $75. But that PSU should be good for a long time vs. buying a no-brand one integrated in a cheap case. Hence our recommendation.
Actually we've reviewed that pick and have downgraded to a GTX 1060 3GB which is reasonable at $220 vs. the GTX 1070 that is selling for twice as much. Agreed with other commenters that the 1070 is not worth it at that price.Could you add a new 1000$ rig? there is a huge gap in performance and price between a 1050 (non ti card) and a 1070. And how about calling it "A rig for those who make money working a 9-5 job"
andy06shake
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No probs thought it might be, new egg servers down right now but im sure you are right.
Sarcasm
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Surprised the "Extreme" machine isn't an i9-7980XE or even the i9-7960X.
Yes, there is Threadripper.
But let's face it, the core i9 is a no compromise system regardless of the cost. Does everything the 1950X does and a bit better, but also can still push games and higher frame rates.
But ridiculousness aside, I'd also choose the Threadripper for my own money
Yes, there is Threadripper.
But let's face it, the core i9 is a no compromise system regardless of the cost. Does everything the 1950X does and a bit better, but also can still push games and higher frame rates.
But ridiculousness aside, I'd also choose the Threadripper for my own money
Colonel Blimp
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Why would you spend $75 (£60) on a case for a budget build?
The case is $40 + PSU, then you end up at $75. But that PSU should be good for a long time vs. buying a no-brand one integrated in a cheap case. Hence our recommendation.
Of course, forgot about the PSU as I already had an RM650 - Fair enough.
The case is $40 + PSU, then you end up at $75. But that PSU should be good for a long time vs. buying a no-brand one integrated in a cheap case. Hence our recommendation.
Of course, forgot about the PSU as I already had an RM650 - Fair enough.
Squid Surprise
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But this is the DREAM system.... you're not supposed to be putting in what you'd buy if cost was an issue.... I understand your point for the other builds... but when you are building something where money isn't an object, you should be selecting the best.
"The Extreme Machine isn't governed by a budget. We pick the best hardware and disregard the associated price premium. If it's 'extreme' enough then you'll find it in this build."
Don't think you get any more "extreme" than Intel's i9 lineup
Also, I think each build needs a separate cost for the peripherals... you've included monitor/mouse/keyboard selections for each build, but haven't added them to the total cost.
Best comment seen on these forums. This is real wisdom. If you got sandybridge, haswell, skylake, kabylake builds already, there is really no reason to spend money on another build right now. Of course you expect, Intel, nVidia, AMD to do their best to drum up hype and induce temptation, because they make money when they sell stuff.
Luxury: "If gaming is your primary concern, the Asus PG279Q is an amazing monitor that hits the sweet spot: 27-inch, 1440p G-Sync with a high refresh rate. "
I've been researching gaming monitors lately (sadly way too expensive) and have seen that the Asus 279Q monitors are plagued with quality control issues. From the few reviews I've read, the Acer Predator 27" equivalent is the better option. It's what I would go for if I had £675 handy.
Also I was stunned to see you list the G.Skill Flare X 3200 RAM for $190. In Europe, it's largely out of stock or available for €260 (up €30 in the last month alone). Even after adding in tax on the US price, that's still a very large difference. I hope NewEgg ship to Europe!
I've been researching gaming monitors lately (sadly way too expensive) and have seen that the Asus 279Q monitors are plagued with quality control issues. From the few reviews I've read, the Acer Predator 27" equivalent is the better option. It's what I would go for if I had £675 handy.
Also I was stunned to see you list the G.Skill Flare X 3200 RAM for $190. In Europe, it's largely out of stock or available for €260 (up €30 in the last month alone). Even after adding in tax on the US price, that's still a very large difference. I hope NewEgg ship to Europe!
MrMajorThorburn
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First time of reading this version of builds.
I'm wondering why you are not using DDR5 memory.
I thought that was the latest generation.
I'm wondering why you are not using DDR5 memory.
I thought that was the latest generation.
NumberCruncher
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A reality question: In a non gaming household computer, email, web, videos, and Office, what if any would be the real world difference in the 1500x, i5-8400, and 1600? Could a non enthusiast tell any noticeable difference in speed if all had SSDs?
Definitely no. A good budget build is more about future proofing and not overspending. Good thing that you mentioned the SSD.
So for non-enthusiasts, the marginal difference is not an issue. Also you have to consider that Ryzen and new Intel Cores both use brand new platforms, so it's hard to choose wrong, whereas years prior you could potentially buy into a bad/dying platform, but that is not a factor right now.
I disagree with this dying platform thing. AMD has promised AM4 support until 2020.
On the other hand, Intel hasn't promised anything on LGA1151/Z370 platform. We already know Z370 is going to be replaced with Z390 and that may also mean new CPU socket. So there is good chance Z370 is dying platform already.
I don't disagree @HardReset but it's hard to predict platform shifts, so at the very least it's not a big negative.
It's not easy but not too hard either. We already know AM4 will be supported with at least Zen2 (Late 2018/early 2019) and very probably Zen3 (2020). AM4 also has great advantage on periperal side because it has NVME x4 straight from CPU.
On the other hand current LGA1151 v2 platform possibly supports Cannon Lake and Ice Lake but it's unknown if neither brings 8C/16T CPU into table. It's known that Cannon Lake brings Z390 chipset and that may be indication that there would not be 8C/16T CPU for LGA1151 v2. Also good to remember there were no real technical reasons to make LGA1151 v2, Intel just wanted to sell more chipsets. LGA1151 v2 is not surely dying platform right now but there is good chance it will be.
Considering these, if we talk about platform's future proof and longetivity, there is no real contest: AM4 wins hands down.
Sausagemeat
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Ryzen for an enthusiast’s build? Lol ghat makes no sense, Ryzen is for people who just want the most they can get for the least amount of money. Enthusiasts buy water coolers and Intel processors, they tweak and overclock and get enthusiastic about having the fastest systems! Overclocking and modding is a far more limited experience on the AMD platform.
Just my thoughts.
Just my thoughts.
Adding a better video card like the GTX 1050ti will be better , by downgrading the storage to 1TB and the SSD to 120-128GB . You'll retain the snapiness whilst gaining performance in games so to say .
And since this is a entry-level build , spending $75 on a case is wasting money since every dollar counts , in a budget build .
You could also get a Ryzen 3 and save yourself some money to buy a GTX 1060 , which will be adequate for 1080p gaming .
And since this is a entry-level build , spending $75 on a case is wasting money since every dollar counts , in a budget build .
You could also get a Ryzen 3 and save yourself some money to buy a GTX 1060 , which will be adequate for 1080p gaming .
What kind og memory would you recommend for the Core i5 (Enthusiast Build) the Flare X option is for the AMD build... !!??
Because the thread ripper is a better all around chip.
If you wanted a money is no object build that rips games and games alone the i9 works or go one better and go Xeon.
For an extreme machine capable of the best of everything this is where it is at the moment.
I totally agree. And why not 1800 or 2k? Honestly! I’m running my 9590 build on 1800 now with two R9s.
Overkill, yes but easier overkill now than not enough later!!!
Not all do. I’ve been an enthusiast on AMD platforms since the K6II. Simply put I trust AMD processors. I don’t trust intel.
We all have our own preferences. Seagate vs WD.
Samsung vs intel sdd. Nvidia vs AMD etc
Squid Surprise
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The i9 gives better performance pretty much across the board.... it's just double the price so not worth it.... Best all-around chip still goes to the i9 though.
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