The Best CPU & GPU Purchases of 2017

[totto2222]

Why are we comparing to 8400 Cpu, an average CPU at best.
https://www.tomsguide.com/us/amd-ryzen-benchmarks,review-4232.html
I have a i7 4790K Devil's Canyon Cpu that can blow the doors off anything Ryzen.

well said,I too have an i7 4790k that will blow the doors off of just about any cpu in this article
until some one puts out 5 ghz chips it will remain competitave

 

[Mugsy]

well said,I too have an i7 4790k that will blow the doors off of just about any cpu in this article
until some one puts out 5 ghz chips it will remain competitave

I have an overclocked 4770k running at 4.3GHz. Anyone know of a good CPU benchmark with online database for comparing results? I'd be interested to know how my old CPU stacks up against the newer CPU's.

 

[dirtyferret]

I have an overclocked 4770k running at 4.3GHz. Anyone know of a good CPU benchmark with online database for comparing results? I'd be interested to know how my old CPU stacks up against the newer CPU's.

Cinebench

 

[Mugsy]

Cinebench

Thanks, but that's more of a GPU benchmark. I went with "Passmark 9" and compared my CPU results to this list. I come in just below a Ryzen 1700 (which I was considering for my next "upgrade".)

 

[dirtyferret]

Thanks, but that's more of a GPU benchmark. I went with "Passmark 9" and compared my CPU results to this list. I come in just below a Ryzen 1700 (which I was considering for my next "upgrade".)

...it's actually a CPU benchmark run by every single CPU review site including the one you are posting on. No one uses the GPU portion of it.

 

[CaptainTom]

According to Techspot i5 8400 is notably faster than the Ryzen 1600 even when it is heavily overclocked in 720p, slightly faster in 1080p and all this data includes the outlier that is Civ 6. If you don't play that one game the gap is even wider in favour of the 8400.

There isn't a huge amount in it but you basically are forced into heavily overclocking the 1600 to 4GHz which isn't always possible (my friend's sample only does 3.8GHz) to get mostly inferior gaming performance to the 8400 right out of the box. You pays your money and takes your choice. 8400 can be harder to get hold of right now and the boards are more expensive, but it'll only last another couple months.

Considering other outlet data on the 8400 (e.g PC Gamer) I have seen and comparisons with various cards the 8400 holds strong and is faster in most scenarios, often significantly so.

"Measurably", I'll give...but I'm not sure that "noticeably" qualifies when their average was just under 8% at 720p (153 vs. 142), & only 1.5% at 1080p (132 vs. 130)... or that at 1440p (albeit a resolution where the GPU starts holding your system back) the i5 technically lost to the OC'd Ryzen CPU (107 vs. 108, or a -1% drop).

Of course, I suppose we should throw out the Civilization VI results, since they actually showed the R5 1600 outperforming the i5-8400 (even without an OC), since that's not "fair"...

Bingo. That is what is so insane about Intel fan boys right now - it is clear they are pulling on both ends of the string to find some sort of way to justify going with team blue right now.

The 1600 costs the same as the bloody 8400: but Ryzen comes with DOUBLE the threads, lower power consumption, and decently cheaper (and better) motherboards!!! Heck if you pull up some games like AC:O, you see the 8400 maxing out all 6 threads at 100% utilization already!

 

[Vulcanproject]

Bingo. That is what is so insane about Intel fan boys right now - it is clear they are pulling on both ends of the string to find some sort of way to justify going with team blue right now.

The 1600 costs the same as the bloody 8400: but Ryzen comes with DOUBLE the threads, lower power consumption, and decently cheaper (and better) motherboards!!! Heck if you pull up some games like AC:O, you see the 8400 maxing out all 6 threads at 100% utilization already!

Yes and then you see what results you get in that game from an 8400 with half the threads of a 1600X. About a 15 percent better minimum frame rate with the i5. Hmmm.....

 

[CaptainTom]

Yes and then you see what results you get in that game from an 8400 with half the threads of a 1600X. About a 15 percent better minimum frame rate with the i5. Hmmm.....

So let's get this straight - none of those cpus can play the game at 144Hz, but everything at the 1600 and up can keep 60 FPS minimums.

Wow that extra money is really making a difference lol

 

[dirtyferret]

Yes and then you see what results you get in that game from an 8400 with half the threads of a 1600X. About a 15 percent better minimum frame rate with the i5. Hmmm.....

So let's get this straight - none of those cpus can play the game at 144Hz, but everything at the 1600 and up can keep 60 FPS minimums.

Wow that extra money is really making a difference lol

if we give you a dolly can you show us were the facts hurts you?

 

[CaptainTom]

if we give you a dolly can you show us were the facts hurts you?

Right back at you kiddie.

Don't throw rocks in a house of glass...

 

[PetrolHead]

It'll be interesting to see how this affects the performance and thus the desirability of current Intel CPUs:

"These KPTI patches move the kernel into a completely separate address space, so it's not just invisible to a running process, it's not even there at all. Really, this shouldn't be needed, but clearly there is a flaw in Intel's silicon that allows kernel access protections to be bypassed in some way.

The downside to this separation is that it is relatively expensive, time wise, to keep switching between two separate address spaces for every system call and for every interrupt from the hardware. These context switches do not happen instantly, and they force the processor to dump cached data and reload information from memory. This increases the kernel's overhead, and slows down the computer.

Your Intel-powered machine will run slower as a result."

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/01/02/intel_cpu_design_flaw/

 

[dirtyferret]

Right back at you kiddie.

Don't throw rocks in a house of glass...

Yet I'm not the one tossing an immature hissy fit.. another fact you don't like. Guess you never win.