The Diablo 4 beta has been bricking graphics cards
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Gastec
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Fun? There is "I did it for the lulz", but that was a political statement, and then there is psychopathy.
In the same way that constantly running an engine up to the redline will eventually cause it to fail I guess. Card has a hidden fault that wouldn't be an issue 99% of the time until a game comes along that triggers it one time too many. Possibly heat related, like poorly apply heat pads or poorly run solder. Might even be substandard components like the time caps were blowing like crazy due to the manufacturer using a formula they stole, but only got a part of. So AFAIK it's possible, but it'd have to be a combination of things, not just the game itself.
Early adopter? It's software and affects both Nvidia and AMD cards, however I still think those cards would have broken regardless of game running
Avro Arrow
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AMD and nVidia? What does being an early adopter of an unfinished computer program have to do with AMD and nVidia? You've completely lost me.
You do know what the term "early adopter" means, right?
Gastec
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They claim it happened to RTX 3080 Ti graphics cards, $1,119 state-of-the-art GPU's, at least according to nGreedia marketing and to the tech journalists who tested them and consumers who consumed them. Then again, we have to take the word of the "burned" consumers for granted and assume they are not lying. We also don't know whether or not they had bought their video cards second-hand from crypto-miners, or if they've mistreated their brand-new, expensive hardware themselves. Too many unknowns but the seed of mistrust has been planted.
PS: gamers have been dealing with this problem of very high frame-rate in the various menus or interfaces of video games for years (for example in The Witcher 2). A well-made, not intentional malware, video game should not have these issues. But the consumers of ultra-expensive video cards should also NOT BE NOOBS!
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Gastec
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Beta-testers of a video game, not early adopters of unfinished software. I've been a beta-tester too, ironically also for a game from Blizzard, but my old Asus GTX 670 is still holding strong after so many years of NON-abuse, and it cost me 3 times less than those modern ultra-end GPU's (considering the 1337 speech is Low, Medium, High and Ultra). If it's all true, then the affected individuals could sue Activi$ion-Blizzard for using malware to destroy their property, though I guess they forfeited all their human and consumer rights, and agreed to be organ donors, when they clicked and accepted the EULA.
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I really can't fathom the idea of buying anything from a company which launched not only Diablo Immortal, shameless money grab, but also Warcraft 3 reforged and Diablo 2 Resurrected. Warcraft is still in a sorry state, while Diablo not only censored whatever it could, but also aged the Amazon like an old hag. I'm never buying anything from Blizzard again, unless they change the focus from skins, dlc, micro transactions and so on.
Witcher games? Ok, I'm sold. Elden ring? Anything from Hideo Kojima? Pre-order.
Blizzard, EA, Ubisoft? Nah, I'm fine.
Witcher games? Ok, I'm sold. Elden ring? Anything from Hideo Kojima? Pre-order.
Blizzard, EA, Ubisoft? Nah, I'm fine.
Yeah, early adoptor mostly means hardware. Software SHOULD NOT be able to break hardware, obviously. No risk, besides crashing.
There is built in limiters exactly for this. That is the reason I say it would probably have broke REGARDLESS of game running at the time.
Maybe you won't but most will, that is why they keep doing it.
Why do you care tho, you can refund games easily today. If game suck on release, simply refund and forget about it or try again later. This is why no demos exist anymore.
Witcher? Yeah decent games, however overrated and very easy. I completed W3 many times on deathmarch + ng and it's just too easy and combat was pretty crap tbh.
Elden Ring was way better than Witcher series.
So you like CPR, did you buy Cyberpunk on launch too then?
Avro Arrow
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The point was that no matter what you do, when you're running unfinished software on your PC, you're taking a risk. These days, the distinction between early adopter and beta-tester is pretty much dead as even so-called "finished" products are anything but. Windows 11 and CP2077 are prime examples of that.
Avro Arrow
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No it doesn't. People who get the new version of Windows are also referred to as early adopters. Being a beta-tester isn't much different these days because for the last decade or so there has been a litany of programs released before they were ready which made early adopters of that software de facto beta testers (who paid for the "privilege").
I agree with you. I don't understand how this is happening, but it's happening regardless. Now, it might be that it's something else that's causing the problem because it doesn't really make sense that only certain cards are affected when entire generations have the same silicon. Maybe these cards were just waiting to fail and these people are just looking for someone to blame.
Over the decades that I've been a PC enthusiast, I have learnt to never try any software that isn't at least three months old. Early adoption of hardware has never been a problem for me from a functionality standpoint, but I'm never an early adopter of hardware either because I won't spend a dime on something until I've researched the hell out of it. That means reading/watching at least these outlets:
Techspot / Hardware Unboxed
Gamers Nexus
Tom's Hardware
Hardware Canucks
Paul's Hardware
TechPowerUp
Guru3D
AnandTech
Videocardz
Good Ol' Gamer
Bitwit
Depending on what it is, sometimes I'll look at WCCFTech, LTT or Jayz2Cents, but usually not. I've found those to be less than trustworthy but even they sometimes have little tidbits of truth.
In any case, I don't rush to buy anything and the time I take to look at a product, compare it to its rivals and find the best price. By the time I pull the trigger on anything, it has usually been out for at least a month. Hardware producers are a lot more anal about their products being functional because hardware can be returned to a store for a refund if it doesn't work while most software can't.
I've honestly never seen a video game brick a video card before and there's definitely something fishy if it primarily bricks RTX 3080s. Maybe that's how Jensen is going to force GeForce owners to upgrade!
Yeah, I did. PC version. Next year I'm getting a 5080 or something to be able to play in 2k on their latest RT mode. I bought the collector 300 USD version and I'm not regretting it. I'd rather pay 300 USD to CDPR for a single player game which doesn't include micro transactions, paid skins, pay to win mechanics and always online required for a single player game. Not only I'm done with Blizzard and Activision games, I'm doing exactly the same for Ubisoft new games and most of the EA games. And I have a mantra:
I CAN KEEP MONEY IN MY WALLET LONGER THAN THEY KEEP MARKETING SHITTY GAMES.
Ok, next generation of gamers may be persuaded into buying crap. I'm old school. Fool me once, shame on you, Warcraft 3 shitty state, fool me twice Diablo 2 without LAN, I'm done paying. What will they do? Blackmail me into paying games?
Worse case scenario, I'm done playing and this means no money for a new PC, so I'm winning here also. I have many friends in the same situation, preying on one's passion will result in him quitting in the end.
It's the exact same thing with Marvel and Star Wars. You want to lecture me about diversity and inclusion as a selling point for your movie? Perfect, you just lost a paying customer. Diversity quotas and Mary Sue actresses stating they don't need a 40 year old white man as a fan: ok, never paying again. Let's see who has more patience when you alienate your customers, you or The Shareholders when profits go down?
300 dollars for an unfinished and rushed game is okay with you? Yeah okay.
Why do you think CDPR rushed it? Shareholders. They are no different from the others.
I don't care about micro transactions as long as it's cosmetic only. Who cares. Actually I like the option to change the look if I want to. I will take a properly finished game with little to no bugs with microtransactions over a clearly bugged and rushed game without them any day.
Pretty much any respectable store have option to refund. I am playing the games I enjoy, regardless of platform and developer. If I don't like it, simply refund. Thats what I did with Cyberpunk 2077 even tho it ran fine on my RTX 3080, however game was bugged and unfinished. I might play it again when the big expansion hits. I was not blown away by the game to begin with, so I can wait.
Cyberpunk 2077 was one of the biggest fails ever in terms of PC gaming. They have improved it, but still feels kinda meh.
I actually tried it a second time, because it was 50% off, about 2 years after release, and it still felt kinda boring, so I refunded again. Maybe the game is simply not for me...
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