The "End of 10" project wants to save aging PCs with Linux instead of Windows 11

[scavengerspc]

Windows 11 can be installed on *any* computer capable of running Windows 10.
All over the place, there are really elementary to follow instructions how to bypass hardware restrictions.
Windows 11 is free for personal use - at least practically, if not officially.

Nothing against Linux, but it's still not suitable for the average user.


Carbon footprint is definitely the most important argument of all, and the very first thing everyone considers before buying a new PC.
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Maybe it isn't usually this simple, but why are people not just plugging in a TPM module to their motherboard?

My sister was clearing her forgotten tech and I found a PC I built for her nearly 15 years ago.
A Sandy Bridge 2600k and an MSI Z68A-GD65 (G3) board.
$20 for a TPM module from Newegg, plugged it in and installed Windows 11.

Just seems to me it was way too easy to be something rare.

This is the one I used.

Are you a human?

www.newegg.com

 

[Antias]

Maybe it isn't usually this simple, but why are people not just plugging in a TPM module to their motherboard?

My sister was clearing her forgotten tech and I found a PC I built for her nearly 15 years ago.
A Sandy Bridge 2600k and an MSI Z68A-GD65 (G3) board.
$20 for a TPM module from Newegg, plugged it in and installed Windows 11.

Just seems to me it was way too easy to be something rare.

Now this is interesting... I asked around and not a single one of my friends or family knew you could buy a TPM module and plug it in to a motherboard (generally speaking)... I'm guessing there are caviets or incompatibilities with a lot of hardware but this seems to be a viable solution to so many refurbishment centres...

 

[daffy duck]

Huge % of them could easily install 11, it's ridiculous to think their only option Linux. Just did this a few weeks ago for my 2016 PC that M$ told me couldn't be updated. Running like a charm especially in debloated form.

 

[calvinblanes]

The difference now is that there is a lot of modern hardware that M$ is arbitrarily saying Windows 11 wont run on. The thing is, TPM 2.0 has already been cracked so their adamant stance by saying it's for security reasons is fubar. The is accompanied with the fact that Windows 11 is basically Microsoft manufactured spyware.

Then you have companies like Valve dumping hundreds of millions into Linux gaming with Linux providing a better experience when the developers actually allow it to work. The only thing holding back anything from working on Linux is DRM and I have some news for you on that. Any program that has a working crack for it will run on Linux just fine. I have no problem running a crack on a piece of software that I own to get it to run on Linux, especially if Linux compatibility was arbitrarily removed long after I already paid for it.

I'm certainly the exception, not the rule, but there isn't a single windows program I haven't been able to find a way to run on Mint without the need for a VM. For awhile I was using ProxMox to switch between Windows and Linux without needing to restart or the pain of a dualboot, but then I just started running cracks in WINE and I don't even need to run proxmox anymore.

You seem like a really smart guy, I always have been an Windows user cuz it really makes it easier to play games on it, I don't have that much free time as I wish, so I go with the easiest choice, is it too hard to run every game on Linux? I have tried before with Ubuntu and Wine for example but I never quite accomplished to run as smooth as it does in Windows (and that if I can make it work), nowdays I play mostly Helldivers 2, if I can play that in Linux, I certanly would give it another try... Can u share useful info on that gaming subject?

 

[loki1944]

Hard pass; way too complicated for me.

 

[loki1944]

Linux will need to appeal to the general public, in this case the non-tech/unskilled users as many will not want to go looking in repositories or communities for drivers for their devices, or for solutions (troubleshooting) if drivers don't work. Although many companies already provide Linux drivers for their devices it's still not enough. This is where Apple and MS has the foothold. Apple and MS knows their target customers and caters to them to make things easy as possible not only in GUI but in plug and play to make it work out of the box.

My linux experience felt like using Windows 95 again; no thanks.

 

[Macar]

Windows is the leading OS. So Microsoft will be subject to close observation.
There are two solutions: either they make Windows 11 compatible for all computers, or they extend the support of Windows 10.

In any case, this is a bad move from Microsoft. Linux is not an opportunity today for most people, but this can create it. In Europe, a movement could start.

 

[bitwarden]

Now this is interesting... I asked around and not a single one of my friends or family knew you could buy a TPM module and plug it in to a motherboard (generally speaking)... I'm guessing there are caviats or incompatibilities with a lot of hardware but this seems to be a viable solution to so many refurbishment centres...

Because there is also a CPU generation requirements that many cannot meet. Also some boards only support TPM 1.2 plugins but 2.0 is required.

 

[AJ North]

For those who wish to continue using Windows 10 for at least the next five years and want ongoing security patches, there is 0patch. They have provided their proprietary "micropatches" for Windows 7, Server 2008 R2, and Office 2010 since they went EOL (as well as vulnerable 3rd-party components and customized software) at a very reasonable cost - https://0patch.com/.

 

[penn919]

I've always been a Windows person, never used Linux...
BUT now I'm seriously considering using one of my spare unused Lenovo Thinkpad T40s as a training tool and trying out Mint... just to see what its like and if I can naturally make the change without too much mental fuss...
I primarily use my PC's as gaming and media consumption (PLEX, MPC-BE and Chrome browser based mostly) with home book keeping via Chrome Browser's Google Apps being the next most common thing...

I highly encourage you to do so. I did the same thing with a desktop I put together using scrap parts. I tested Zorin OS and realized it was perfect as a daily driver. Now I've got Zorin on my main computers (desktop and laptop). Also, I've got Nobara Linux on my HTPC. The linux community on reddit is huge and there are all kinds of youtube videos you can use as guides.

 

[bitwarden]

BTW Ubuntu runs miles better than Windows on Dell XPS 2-in-1 (9310).
Windows could not sleep well, always bloody drained the battery. Whenever I picked it up, it needed charging. No issue with Ubuntu. Second issue was 3.5 audio jack - could not work properly could not detect headphones sometimes necessitating reboot to recognize headphones plugged into 3.5 analog jack. No issues with Ubuntu. Also better battery life, just don't use Firefox which drains battery quickly on YouTube. Perhaps no hardware decoder support? Chromium-based browsers work fine.