The Future of Tech: Gaming Consoles, the Xbox and PlayStation of Tomorrow

[Julio Franco]

Consoles have come a very long way since the arrival of first-gen machines from Atari and Coleco in the seventies. Even the original PlayStation (1994) and Xbox (2001) look dated compared to today's machines, and that divide will grow even larger once the PS5 and Xbox Series X arrive at the end of 2020. But what about the future?

Read the full article here.

https://www.techspot.com/article/1979-the-future-of-game-consoles/

 

[QuantumPhysics]

The problem is the developers.

They’ve gotten lazy and demand profit.
They want to develop games for the PC that can be ported down to the consoles or they want to develop games for the consoles that can be easily ported up to the PC.

The problem with that is it means that there are less exclusives for consoles and that the consoles will end up getting more and more standard computer parts making them more like PCs.

If the consoles become more like PCs then there’s less reason to have a console over a PC besides the lower entry price – which itself is also steadily rising.

It’s getting cheaper and cheaper to afford core i9 processor and a Nvidia RTX video card with more power than either the Xbox one Series X or PlayStation 5 will have. Considering these systems can use controllers just like the consoles have: the only thing stopping most people from going PC instead of consoles is the exclusives.

Fortunately this is something that Nintendo won’t have to worry about because their intellectual property consists of first party titles that are timeless.

 

[Aiibo]

I really love Techspot but this was an utterly boring read and unnecessary article. Skipping yet not fully revealed next generation to predict the next-next one and failing at that.

 

[FPSChris]

Or maybe they'll be happy dropping to 4K@240 fps with full effects enabled

I think they'll be lucky to get 60fps at 1440p with full effects enabled

 

[redgarl]

The thing is consoles are usually used way more efficiently than the PC counterparts. The good news with the new consoles is that they have basically identical uarchs. The games will be almost a copy paste from consoles to consoles or consoles to PC. The funny thing is that everything will be optimized for AMD hardware, Intel and Nvidia should be worried about this. This will put to rest all the Nvidia proprietary software solutions they have with gamework and it will impact Intel CPUs greatly in games.

2160p will be mainstream next year and 8k will not take 10 years to go mainstream. The next generation consoles will aim for 8k, so we are talking about another 5-7 years before 8k is the new mainstream. Technology will only go exponentially from now on. If you remember 15 years ago, smart phone, tablets, internet, automation in vehicles, chiplets... none of this was existing to the extent we have today. Only a fool can deny the real patterns of technology.

 

[QuantumPhysics]

The thing is consoles are usually used way more efficiently than the PC counterparts. The good news with the new consoles is that they have basically identical uarchs. The games will be almost a copy paste from consoles to consoles or consoles to PC. The funny thing is that everything will be optimized for AMD hardware, Intel and Nvidia should be worried about this. This will put to rest all the Nvidia proprietary software solutions they have with gamework and it will impact Intel CPUs greatly in games.

2160p will be mainstream next year and 8k will not take 10 years to go mainstream. The next generation consoles will aim for 8k, so we are talking about another 5-7 years before 8k is the new mainstream. Technology will only go exponentially from now on. If you remember 15 years ago, smart phone, tablets, internet, automation in vehicles, chiplets... none of this was existing to the extent we have today. Only a fool can deny the real patterns of technology.

I originally wanted to buy an Xbox One X to replace my aging, poorly-functioning Xbox One. That woulda been just $500.

But it was at that moment I decided to replace my Core i7 4790/ GTX 745 4GB/ 32 GB DDR3 HP Pavilion desktop with a straight up gaming computer.

A PC will always have theadvantage because the user themselves decides what the priority is: audio processing, video processing, gaming, etc. Fortunately, we've reached the point where you can getf a computer that does well at all of those for less than $1000. You can get a laptop that can do all of those as well for less than $1000.

The only advantage the consoles have over the PC is the lower entry price.

The biggest thing the consoles have to fear is cheapening PCs.

 

[nnguy2]

I originally wanted to buy an Xbox One X to replace my aging, poorly-functioning Xbox One. That woulda been just $500.

But it was at that moment I decided to replace my Core i7 4790/ GTX 745 4GB/ 32 GB DDR3 HP Pavilion desktop with a straight up gaming computer.

A PC will always have theadvantage because the user themselves decides what the priority is: audio processing, video processing, gaming, etc. Fortunately, we've reached the point where you can getf a computer that does well at all of those for less than $1000. You can get a laptop that can do all of those as well for less than $1000.

The only advantage the consoles have over the PC is the lower entry price.

The biggest thing the consoles have to fear is cheapening PCs.

The biggest barrier to pc gaming (besides money) is people are afraid to build/tinker with pc component. They'd rather drop $500 for a console and just power up and play.

 

[sfmobius]

The cloud market is already here. The X5 will be heavily integrated for cloud support. Rumor has it there will be a fully cloud version from the MS camp. Meanwhile, Sony has begrudgingly started using MS's Azure because they have virtually no infrastructure to support cloud gaming. Sony might have won the console battles circa 2013, but MS is pushing hard to win the war. The bigger hurdles now are connections. If 5g turns out to be half as good as they claim it will be, gaming will evolve even further away from a console perspective IMO.

 

[Vulcanproject]

Microsoft's consoles will be pointless if you own a gaming PC. However the Xbox Series X looks like it'll really push the boundaries of console performance which can only benefit the PC versions of those same games.

The fact that even the slower consoles will have 8 core Zen 2 processors is also a pretty huge deal and great news for PC gamers. That monster CPU you bought might actually be utilized in upcoming next gen games. Instead of sat there at 15 percent load.

Developers will be handed the chance to improve AI and other features previously limited by the weak sauce excuse for CPUs the present gen machines all have.

 

[Axiarus]

Lmao, 120FPS/4K from next gen consoles? That is funny.

 

[Axiarus]

The thing is consoles are usually used way more efficiently than the PC counterparts. The good news with the new consoles is that they have basically identical uarchs. The games will be almost a copy paste from consoles to consoles or consoles to PC. The funny thing is that everything will be optimized for AMD hardware, Intel and Nvidia should be worried about this. This will put to rest all the Nvidia proprietary software solutions they have with gamework and it will impact Intel CPUs greatly in games.

2160p will be mainstream next year and 8k will not take 10 years to go mainstream. The next generation consoles will aim for 8k, so we are talking about another 5-7 years before 8k is the new mainstream. Technology will only go exponentially from now on. If you remember 15 years ago, smart phone, tablets, internet, automation in vehicles, chiplets... none of this was existing to the extent we have today. Only a fool can deny the real patterns of technology.

Next gen consoles are not going to be pushing 120FPS/4K for under $600. It is just not happening.

 

[OptimumSlinky]

A dedicated discrete GPU, faster refresh rates as the norm

It hasn't been confirmed that these next consoles will in fact have a discrete GPU, and it's more likely that it will be another APU, simply one based off Zen2 and RDNA2.

 

[OptimumSlinky]

Lmao, 120FPS/4K from next gen consoles? That is funny.

The targets leaked have been 4K/60f, and 1080p/120f. Both are reasonable given the projected specs.

 

[OptimumSlinky]

The only advantage the consoles have over the PC is the lower entry price.

1. Steamlined OS with better low-level APIs that's a hell of a lot more stable than Windows most days.
2. No hardware incompatibilities or botched driver updates.
3. High-quality 4K UHD Blu-Ray player for your living room.
4. Miniature, attractive (sometimes) form factor.

Don't get me wrong: No console will ever replace a PC. But let's not pretend consoles are valueless.

And given that console gaming still generates more money than PC gaming in 2020 (though they're getting close), a lot of people agree.

 

[Julio Franco]

Next gen consoles are not going to be pushing 120FPS/4K for under $600. It is just not happening.

It hasn't been confirmed that these next consoles will in fact have a discrete GPU, and it's more likely that it will be another APU, simply one based off Zen2 and RDNA2.

Just to be on the same page... the article is not about PS5/Xbox Series X, but the consoles that will come after, in 5 to 7 years. It says so in the intro

 

[Axiarus]

Just to be on the same page... the article is not about PS5/Xbox Series X, but the consoles that will come after, in 5 to 7 years. It says so in the intro

My statement still stands ?

 

[Axiarus]

The targets leaked have been 4K/60f, and 1080p/120f. Both are reasonable given the projected specs.

120fps/1080p yes. Very reasonable. 4K/60? No.

 

[Digitalzone]

1. Steamlined OS with better low-level APIs that's a hell of a lot more stable than Windows most days.
2. No hardware incompatibilities or botched driver updates.
3. High-quality 4K UHD Blu-Ray player for your living room.
4. Miniature, attractive (sometimes) form factor.

5. you own and can sell the physical games you bought. Just this one fact of not being completely screwed by game industry is enough for many people.

 

[phoenixheatingan]

The target needed was also the one who gave it. It wasn't related to what I wanted but I still got the idea.

 

[urbanman2004]

Sony has released “slim” versions of its consoles since the PS2

Wrong buddy, Sony has been releasing slim versions of their console since the original PlayStation which was called Sony PlayStation PS One, respectively.

 

[pcnthuziast]

Over market, under deliver. As per usual.

 

[Ryan Barrett]

The problem is the developers.

They’ve gotten lazy and demand profit.
They want to develop games for the PC that can be ported down to the consoles or they want to develop games for the consoles that can be easily ported up to the PC.

The problem with that is it means that there are less exclusives for consoles and that the consoles will end up getting more and more standard computer parts making them more like PCs.

If the consoles become more like PCs then there’s less reason to have a console over a PC besides the lower entry price – which itself is also steadily rising.

It’s getting cheaper and cheaper to afford core i9 processor and a Nvidia RTX video card with more power than either the Xbox one Series X or PlayStation 5 will have. Considering these systems can use controllers just like the consoles have: the only thing stopping most people from going PC instead of consoles is the exclusives.

Fortunately this is something that Nintendo won’t have to worry about because their intellectual property consists of first party titles that are timeless.

Except a core i9900 and a decent RTX cost more than any console will. You're most likely looking at $600-$700 for those two parts alone before you even build the rest of the system. I have both PC, nintendo and PS4. The exclusives on PS4 and Nintendo keep me playing and almost anything that's multi-platform is PC. I don't think one will replace the other. Having an XBOX is a waste if you already have a PC but if you're starting from scratch, the barrier to entry to build a gaming rig is quite high.