The MPA plans to collaborate with Congress on piracy website-blocking legislation

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A hot potato: Charles Rivkin, chairman and CEO of the Motion Picture Association isn't a fan of pirates. He says many of those who operate piracy websites are "real-life mobsters" who engage in child pornography, drug trafficking, and other crimes. He has also announced that the MPA plans to work with Congress to introduce legislation that blocks pirate websites in the United States.

Speaking during CinemaCon in Las Vegas, Rivkin said of pirate site operators, "Remember – these aren't teenagers playing an elaborate prank!"

"The perpetrators are real-life mobsters … organized crime syndicates – many of whom engage in child pornography, prostitution, drug trafficking, and so many other societal ills!" he added, reports Deadline. "They operate websites that draw in millions of unsuspecting viewers whose personal data can then fall prey to malware and hackers."

Rivkin spoke about the impact piracy has in the US, claiming it costs hundreds of thousands of jobs, steals tens of billions of dollars from the economy and more than one billion dollars in theatrical ticket sales.

The chairman's tirade could be prompted by the uptick in piracy that has been happening for a few years now. In Europe, piracy fell during the lockdowns before shooting back up. Globally, the practice is up 12% since 2019, with the US and India behind the majority of the 141 billion visits to piracy websites in 2023. There's little doubt that the massive increase in the cost of streaming services has played a big part in people turning to piracy.

Rivkin noted that 60 other countries use site-blocking tools in their battle against piracy. He said the only reason the US doesn't do it is the "lack of political will, paired with outdated understandings of what site-blocking actually is, how it functions, and who it affects."

The rule, if introduced, would mean film and television producers, music and book publishers, sports leagues, and broadcasters could ask courts to order ISPs to block websites that host and share pirated content. Rivkin said that detailed evidence would need to be provided to ensure a site is engaged in illegal piracy and that operators can appear in court to defend themselves.

Rivkin referenced illegal streamer FMovies as an example of how site blocking could impact piracy website traffic. Other nations passed legislation that has blocked access to the site, but it still attracts 160 million visits per month, a third of which comes from the US.

"Imagine if those viewers couldn't find pirated versions of films through a basic internet search. Imagine if they could only watch the latest great movies when they're released in their intended destinations: your theaters," he said.

"If we had site-blocking in place, we wouldn't have to imagine it. We'd have another tool to make that real."

An attempt by the MPA to restrict access to piracy websites in 2012 via the Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA) failed after the bill was dropped over fears it would violate free speech. Speaking about SOPA, Rivkin said, "real-world experience proved those dire predictions wrong. Examples of free speech violations are practically non-existent."

"And even if Members of Congress can't seem to agree on much these days, surely they can find common ground on action to protect American businesses, defend American workers, and strengthen our public safety."

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1. real-life mobsters
2. engage in child pornography
3. prostitution
4. drug trafficking
5. so many other societal ills

Accusations from somebody representing Hollywood...

I don't think I ever heard so many self projections in one paragraph in my entire life, yet here it is staring me in the face.
 
I love how he stated that piracy costs jobs, revenue, etc… did he show any proof of that?

Cause I’ve yet to see anything proving any of that.

Piracy rises and falls depending on the prices/availability of commodities - pure and simple.

If a commodity rises in price beyond what the market will bear, you’ll see piracy rise.

This is shown by the rise of piracy in movies and TV recently - coinciding with ticket and streaming increases.

When prohibition was in force back in the 1920s, “piracy” (aka gangsters like Al Capone) filled the public need.

Hey Hollywood, try making movie tickets reasonable and streaming affordable (and convenient) and you’ll watch piracy decrease.
 
None of those things listed have anything to do with piracy. All of this stuff is easily circumventable, anyway. Still, visiting a website and downloading from it are 2 different things. This is a very large violation of the first amendment.

But, you know, here is a novel idea. Streamin used to be optional, it no longer is for lots of content. So now you have to have cable and streaming services. Streaming is now more expensive than cable. Perhaps if businesses didn't try to keep bleeding people dry then options like piracy wouldn't seem so appealing.

When a bag of potatoes costs $10 people are going to be looking at other options.
 
I love how he stated that piracy costs jobs, revenue, etc… did he show any proof of that?

Cause I’ve yet to see anything proving any of that.

Piracy rises and falls depending on the prices/availability of commodities - pure and simple.

If a commodity rises in price beyond what the market will bear, you’ll see piracy rise.

This is shown by the rise of piracy in movies and TV recently - coinciding with ticket and streaming increases.

When prohibition was in force back in the 1920s, “piracy” (aka gangsters like Al Capone) filled the public need.

Hey Hollywood, try making movie tickets reasonable and streaming affordable (and convenient) and you’ll watch piracy decrease.
The only thing I've noticed costing people in Hollywood jobs is the absolute trash they are producing today, which people do not want to watch. But that would require introspection, so blaming pirates it is!
 
Huh, didn't they(us) used to call the cooperation between big business and government to defeat the wishes/goals of the people Fascism?
Wow, I sit here watching the end of the Country I love, taken over and divided by Communist and Fascist, we "the people" have no say in anything. We just feed the beast with our blood, because we have no money left....
Basically we are moving from a free consumer society to a Government controlled and guided one.
 
The only thing I've noticed costing people in Hollywood jobs is the absolute trash they are producing today, which people do not want to watch. But that would require introspection, so blaming pirates it is!

This. I haven't pirated any movies or tv shows in many years (except two or three that family members asked me to find for them), simply because there's nothing even worth watching or pirating anymore.

Making garbage not even worth watching for free is the most effective anti-piracy measure there is.
 
He doesn't have to prove anything to you or anyone else, because no one has to run anything by you or owes you an explanation.
No… he doesn’t have to prove anything to ME… I’m a Canadian citizen who has no power over US policy…

However, he SHOULD have to prove something to the US government if he wants them to pass laws.

In an ideal world, a nation wouldn’t pass laws on something without some sort of proof that the law is necessary…

In an even more ideal world, these laws would be beneficial to the majority of the citizens in the nation - not a select few interest groups who fund *cough* bribe the lawmakers.
 
No… he doesn’t have to prove anything to ME… I’m a Canadian citizen who has no power over US policy…
If you're Canadian, what are you doing demanding that a US public figure answer to you, regarding an American sector that has nothing to do with Canada?

But here is a better question--why is it that whenever there's a US-based news story involving American political figures, lawmakers and legislation, you and other foreign nationals are not only the most heavily represented in discussions, but casting doubt on policy decisions or statements that US officials have made?
 
If you're Canadian, what are you doing demanding that a US public figure answer to you, regarding an American sector that has nothing to do with Canada?
I'm not making any demands... I'm just giving my opinion - that's kind of what this forum is for... I highly doubt your president reads these...
But here is a better question--why is it that whenever there's a US-based news story involving American political figures, lawmakers and legislation, you and other foreign nationals are not only the most heavily represented in discussions, but casting doubt on policy decisions or statements that US officials have made?
Well, I'm pretty sure that plenty of US born forum members give just as many or more opinions as "me and my foreign buddies do"...

Despite that nonsense, that's kind of the reason why people tend to like democracies - people are free to question decisions made by the leaders, which makes them accountable when elections come around.

If you want a government where no one is allowed to question policy decisions; China, Russia, the Middle East (not including Israel) and just about every African / Arab / Muslim nation might be the spot you'd rather live in...
 
Won't somebody please think of the children?
There are billions of people who have children or are an aunt, uncle, sibling or teacher to one, so would understand why kids need to be protected. They can grow up to be productive members of society or reach adulthood as vagrants, abusers or scammers. If only people understood that.
 
There are billions of people who have children or are an aunt, uncle, sibling or teacher to one, so would understand why kids need to be protected. They can grow up to be productive members of society or reach adulthood as vagrants, abusers or scammers. If only people understood that.
Looks like you’re a special breed of person who’s immune to sarcasm :)

Let me help…
 
Site blocking of piracy sites is one. But how many other sites will be blocked "Just Because"?
Just because what? That's not how the American system works, where things can be easily blocked "just because." Even so, companies would have the ability to make their case in court, like Larry Flynt and so many others have done. Stop spreading FUD about slippery slopes because that's not how things work in the Real World, let alone the United States.
 
Just because what? That's not how the American system works, where things can be easily blocked "just because." Even so, companies would have the ability to make their case in court, like Larry Flynt and so many others have done. Stop spreading FUD about slippery slopes because that's not how things work in the Real World, let alone the United States.
Actually, it IS how the American system (and lots of others) works. A law gets passed, then various people try to find loopholes to further their own agendas.

Your government did it after 9/11 - gave sweeping powers to the police, CIA, etc… the purpose was to find the terrorists… but over the years, the laws have been abused for slightly more nefarious things…

Of course, it’s not just governments… whenever a law gets passed limiting something, the people it affects immediately look for loopholes.

That’s why accountants are important as government tax laws aren’t perfect…
 
Just because what? That's not how the American system works, where things can be easily blocked "just because." Even so, companies would have the ability to make their case in court, like Larry Flynt and so many others have done. Stop spreading FUD about slippery slopes because that's not how things work in the Real World, let alone the United States.
After a decade of Slippery Slopes repeatedly being proven correct, calling them "fud" is incredibly tone deaf.

Perhaps you should study a history book sometime. Political Slippery Slopes are very real.
 
Actually, it IS how the American system (and lots of others) works. A law gets passed, then various people try to find loopholes to further their own agendas.

Your government did it after 9/11 - gave sweeping powers to the police, CIA, etc… the purpose was to find the terrorists… but over the years, the laws have been abused for slightly more nefarious things…
This Canadian has no idea what he's talking about, so moving right along...

P.S. I suppose after being ashamed of the mass coverup of First Nation children that died on Canadian soil due to neglect, thinks that the US works the way the Canadian government does. But there's a difference. Americans owned up to the mistreatment of Native Americans and even put out movies, documentaries and other types of media about their plight. Canada still tries to bury the evidence and pretend that no genocide took place.
 
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