The Netherlands is scrambling to stop ASML from moving its lithography business outside...

[toooooot]

Ok, since most of you seem unfamiliar with current Dutch politics. The issue here is that the Netherlands is going down the path of national conservatism (Trumpism if you like). So tougher laws on immigration, no special treatment of expats. ASML doesn't like that because the right wing identity politics doesn't get you talent, just like the left kind doesn't.

I doubt there are many talented engineers among the millions that crossed USA border recently. Same goes for Europe.
That skilled engineer you talk about supports those with his taxes. Immigration as we know does not convert into skilled workers but becomes a burden for country's budget. To let more talented people in, there has to be a narrow aim, a set of laws letting specifically those to come.
I am very tired about how people talk about these issues as a whole. Immigration, minority groups, etc. They are people, people that can be worthy and good or bad.
Netherland has bad immigrant laws? Well maybe because people saw the results and started to vote for more radical politicians. They do not appear out of nowhere, but when people are upset with previous government.

 

[Watzupken]

First thing, there is no diversification here. Anything goes south there, the company will be in limbo.
Second thing, it just shows how governments are being led by these big companies, not the other way round. It sounds like they are using taxpayer’s money to do what they can to keep the company onshore. Sure it creates job, but I wonder if the benefit outweighs the cost.

 

[MasterAce]

Schools only teach a very generalized tip of the iceberg. The problem is not education, it’s work experience. Especially for ASML to find people with experience in something that even remotely resembles what they are doing must be super hard. How many in litography companies are there in Netherlands? In the world? Experts in that field are surely extremely hard to find.

We teach our kids that education opens all the doors. It’s quite a shock to find out it doesn’t. It happened to me.

 

[Endymio]

the center right/ populist- right government of the last 12 years or so didn't invest in infrastructure, so now the electricity grid is overloaded.

Stuff and nonsense. "Infrastructure" doesn't generate electricity: only cheap, stable, reliable sources like coal, nuclear, hydroelectric, and natural gas can do that. All of which are virulently opposed by the Dutch Greens.

As for the absurdity of "the grid being overloaded", the Netherlands generated 11,721 TWh in 2010, all of it carried by that grid. The amount generated each year has steadily declined, as the Dutch tried (and failed) to replace fossil fuels with wind and solar. In 2022, the country generated only 984 TWh total, despite a 6% increase in population over that period.

 

[opckieran]

Come to Texas! It’ll be easy to hire janitors at least.

 

[MasterAce]

Stuff and nonsense. "Infrastructure" doesn't generate electricity: only cheap, stable, reliable sources like coal, nuclear, hydroelectric, and natural gas can do that. All of which are virulently opposed by the Dutch Greens.

As for the absurdity of "the grid being overloaded", the Netherlands generated 11,721 TWh in 2010, all of it carried by that grid. The amount generated each year has steadily declined, as the Dutch tried (and failed) to replace fossil fuels with wind and solar. In 2022, the country generated only 984 TWh total, despite a 6% increase in population over that period.

Yeah it’s ridiculous. A Finnish green person had calculated that if all Finnish cars were EV, we’d need to double our electricity production, and windpower would be best for that. If there’s no wind? The whole nation stops. Already up to 50% of our electricity is wind. On a cold winter day, when all the electric heaters are glowing red hot, it never winds. And electricity prices go crazy. We had 2,5€/kwh because of ”unforseen” circumstances. I call it reality.

 

[BuckarooBonzaii]

ASML wants to grow and keep up with changing trends. Seems that green countries will always use other people's money to support them because they are too stubborn to see reality that their green is not working. Time to pack up and leave.

 

[Gars]

From when 'Dutch" is the same as "Netherlands? plz
ASML sounds like good AF

 

[mgwerner]

You haven't heard? Companies are only looking to hire people that are 18-25 with atleast 1 masters degree and 10 years of experience

They are actually trying to hire people who can show up on time, think critically, follow moderately complex instructions, and know how to deal with setbacks and interpersonal conflicts. As someone who works in a university setting, there are very, very few of the current crop of graduates who fit these descriptors.

 

[FaTaL]

I swear I thought the article said ASMR for a second.