The United Arab Emirates wants to build the first city on Mars by 2117

[captaincranky]

Hiroshima was most likely firebombed, as well as Nagasaki. Just like Tokyo, Dresden, and hundreds of other cities. The world didn't "witness" anything. The media was silenced under pain of death on both sides, here and in Japan, on the topic for many years. The photo evidence is chock full of holes. And that's before we even get to the physics, which are almost laughable. Of course, you won't believe this coming from a polemic opponent, but we have no evidence that nuclear weapons actually exist.

I'm here for you as well. You're the one that referenced Star Trek 3 as the source the concept of terraforming, not me. You're the one who's evidently only read one sci-fi novel (we have no evidence you've read any others) and somehow thinks that qualifies you for... Whatever you're rambling about. I mean BNW is okay, if you're like eleven. Asimov was much better when I was a child.

And then we get to your prod about anybody needing to be able to change the weather at all before we can approach a planetary climate. I would tend to agree with you, but you use it as a dodge, an ad hom attack. Followed by, "then we can talk." We already are talking, buddy. We're talking about terraforming - something you self-professedly know nothing about along with weather, or you would know that weather isn't climate. You don't even know what heat is. I can say this with full confidence because almost nobody does anyway, and if you haven't researched the topic and read Mathis's papers on it, you cannot know what heat actually is.

I wasn't begging anyone to look at my sources. I was offering Mosu some further information and it had nothing to do with you, as should have been obvious since I addressed that person in my post. Please add, "internet etiquette" to your list of Things to Learn, along with literacy and tact. If you have no desire to learn about these topics, then that's perfectly fine by me. It's precisely because I enjoy learning about these things that I'm so easily able to trounce you in this conversation. You're unarmed.

What you run into most of all at this site, is people who rewrite history to their own choosing and convenience. I'm guessing if I had mentioned to Holocaust, if it was to your convenience, that wouldn't have happened either.

Like I said before, we could have really done without hurricane Sandy. Why couldn't you and all these big thinkers have done something to avert that? While you're at it, go price a tank of medical oxygen. I think oxygen is produced here on earth "the easy way", via electrolysis. (Which requires water, IIRC). Oh wait, Elon Musk says we could just, "nuke Mars polar cap for the water". But then, you're saying "nuclear weapons may not exist", so I guess that rules out that fantasy. Oh wait, it should be easier to create and control an atmosphere on another planet, than to dissipate one little hurricane here on earth? You spend too much time reading Sci-Fi

BTW, I haven't even begun an "ad hominem" attack on you. You're too sensitive..

So, if all you've got is Sci-Fi writers' vivid imaginary predictions of "what is possible", along with conspiracy theories about "nuclear weapons not existing", you haven't really got much of anything, have you? While we're at at it, let's go "all in", and say the moon landings never happened either. Which leaves us with no way to blow up Mars' polar caps, and no way to get there.,

Now toddle along.and don't try talking down to me any more.

 

[turismozilla]

Make Mars religion free.

 

[captaincranky]

Make Mars religion free.

Shouldn't a truly sensible idea like that start here first?

 

[JaredTheDragon]

What you run into most of all at this site, is people who rewrite history to their own choosing and convenience. I'm guessing if I had mentioned to Holocaust, if it was to your convenience, that wouldn't have happened either.

Like I said before, we could have really done without hurricane Sandy. Why couldn't you and all these big thinkers have done something to avert that? While you're at it, go price a tank of medical oxygen. I think oxygen is produced here on earth "the easy way", via electrolysis. (Which requires water, IIRC). Oh wait, Elon Musk says we could just, "nuke Mars polar cap for the water". But then, you're saying "nuclear weapons may not exist", so I guess that rules out that fantasy. Oh wait, it should be easier to create and control an atmosphere on another planet, than to dissipate one little hurricane here on earth? You spend too much time reading Sci-Fi

BTW, I haven't even begun an "ad hominem" attack on you. You're too sensitive..

So, if all you've got is Sci-Fi writers' vivid imaginary predictions of "what is possible", along with conspiracy theories about "nuclear weapons not existing", you haven't really got much of anything, have you? While we're at at it, let's go "all in", and say the moon landings never happened either. Which leaves us with no way to blow up Mars' polar caps, and no way to get there.,

Now toddle along.and don't try talking down to me any more.

You can't straw man me. I said nothing about the Holocaust. Or the moon landing. My condescension was based on your ineptitude on the topic that you brought up, and your subsequent failures of logic, rationale, and literacy. I already presented a wealth of knowledge and resources on the topic outside of fiction; you've done nothing but complain that you couldn't do so, yourself.

Let us know when you research terraforming, space travel, or nuclear physics beyond watching Star Trek movies.

 

[Raoul Duke]

Hiroshima was most likely firebombed, as well as Nagasaki. Just like Tokyo, Dresden, and hundreds of other cities. The world didn't "witness" anything. The media was silenced under pain of death on both sides, here and in Japan, on the topic for many years. The photo evidence is chock full of holes. And that's before we even get to the physics, which are almost laughable. Of course, you won't believe this coming from a polemic opponent, but we have no evidence that nuclear weapons actually exist.

either it is time to put the Bong down and "say No to Drugs" or your psychiatric facility needs to start monitoring your internet access.

 

[captaincranky]

You can't straw man me. I said nothing about the Holocaust. Or the moon landing. My condescension was based on your ineptitude on the topic that you brought up, and your subsequent failures of logic, rationale, and literacy. I already presented a wealth of knowledge and resources on the topic outside of fiction; you've done nothing but complain that you couldn't do so, yourself.

Let us know when you research terraforming, space travel, or nuclear physics beyond watching Star Trek movies.

Psychologists have done studies raising baby apes with real female apes, and with wire frame representations of a female form. What they determined is the ones with real mothers, for the most part, grew up with normal emotional and intellectual responses.In other words, they were correctly "socialized".

The ones with the wire frames however, didn't fare so well. They behaved erratically and inappropriately. Much like you, in fact.

So at this point I'm a thinkin', that picture in your last post, must be yo momma.

Now go grow us a hurricane, or maybe a token few pounds of hot air. That should be as easy as falling off a log for you...

 

[Makson]

Lasers may be able to propel spacecraft to Mars at a significant fraction of the speed of light.

The sheiks 'may' be able to buy a laser-propelled spacecraft if one 'could' be constructed to travel at an 'unknown' speed which would take an 'unknown' amount of time to get to Mars as the 'significant fraction' of the speed of light has not yet been determined.

 

[captaincranky]

According to this article: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...engers-65-miles-city-Fujairah-10-MINUTES.html

Elon Musk has been in, or communicated with, the UAE, particularly Dubai, quite a bit recently. I find it somewhat less than coincidental that Elon Musk has been spreading his "visionary" bullsh!t around there, an all of a sudden, they're, "going to build a colony of Mars".

This is just Musk being his charismatic and parasitic best, trying to weasel his greedy little hands into some of the fattest bankrolls in the world..

I can almost hear the jive and patter that smuck must have been laying down about the "hyperloop". I't will bring more prestige to you than just about anything else in the world. You, "owe it to yourselves to have one". "For anybody other than the people of Dubai, I'd ask twice as much to build it".

Et.cetera, et cetera, and so on, and so forth, blah, blah, blah.

 

[Makson]

Elon Musk is the epitome of a failed Snake Oil Salesman from the Old Wild West.......fancy guns on his hips with dough bullets bought from Walmart, standing on a chuck wagon sideboard with a drawing on a napkin showing a railway tunnel from MA to CA via TX.
The smell of musk....remember the animal from where it origibates.