Trump-Musk feud wipes $152 billion off Tesla, sparks Dragon spacecraft threat and Epstein files claim

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WTF?! When the president of the United States and the world's richest person have a falling out, the ramifications can be widespread. Since Musk and Trump went from friends to enemies, $152 billion has been wiped off Tesla's share price, and Musk has threatened to decommission the SpaceX Dragon spacecraft that NASA relies on to deliver crew to and from the International Space Station. Musk has also said that Trump appears in files relating to Jeffrey Epstein.

When he left the White House last week, Musk blasted those who said he'd had a falling out with Trump. The CEO insisted his departure was due to his scheduled 130 days as a government employee coming to an end. But Musk had been publicly criticizing Trump's Big Beautiful Bill Act, warning it would increase the budget deficit.

After learning that an electric-vehicle tax credit that would help incentivize Tesla purchases was not included in the bill, Musk called it "a disgusting abomination" on X and urged Americans to call Congress to have the bill killed.

On Thursday, the two men used their respective social media platforms to throw insults at each other. At one point, Trump threatened to "terminate Elon's Governmental Subsidies and Contracts" as a way to slash billions of dollars from the budget.

The warning sent Tesla's shares down just over 14%, wiping around $152 billion off its valuation – and almost $100 billion off Musk's total net worth.

In response to Trump's threat to cancel Musk's government contracts, Musk said SpaceX will begin decommissioning its Dragon spacecraft immediately. The craft, which NASA relies on for transport missions including ferrying astronauts to the ISS, is under contract worth roughly $4.9 billion. The capsule is the only US spacecraft capable of flying humans into orbit. The only other crewed spacecraft that sends astronauts to the ISS is Russia's Soyuz system.

However, after an X user told him to "cool off," Musk wrote, "Ok, we won't decommission Dragon."

As the war of words has grown, Musk said Trump's controversial tariffs will cause a recession in the second half of this year. But his "really big bomb" was an allegation that Trump appears in the files of pedophile financier Jeffrey Epstein, who killed himself in his jail cell in August 2019 while awaiting trial.

Musk has also shared a post calling for Trump's impeachment and posted a poll asking if a new political party should be created in the US that "actually represents the 80% in the middle." 81% of the 4.4 million respondents have voted yes.

One has to wonder if Musk believes his time in the White House was worth it. Beyond his reputational damage, his companies have suffered by association. Tesla sales were down 50% last month, and there have been protests and attacks on dealerships. The company's share price is down 40% from its all-time high on December 17, 2024, before Musk was part of DOGE.

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Far right/left governments always leads to hate, fights, and brainwashing, until no other option can be reached anymore (like in ruSSia, china, nazi germany or north korea). I do hope US will be resistant enough to not become a food for new oligarch emerging there. It is mad that a federation of different states are ruled by a single person, not a senate...

 
Far right/left governments always leads to hate, fights, and brainwashing, until no other option can be reached anymore (like in ruSSia, china, nazi germany or north korea). I do hope US will be resistant enough to not become a food for new oligarch emerging there. It is mad that a federation of different states are ruled by a single person, not a senate...
The issues isn't far right or left. It's the republican party being hyjacked by rich **** heads who literally want to end democracy so they can get away with whatever they want.
 
The petulant children have started throwing things at each other and the American public suffer.
These a55holes are so out of touch with real people and the problems they have to deal with in their lives. It's disgusting that they get to be in charge, making just one crazy nepotistic-egotistic-narcissistic decision after another and leaving us to pick up the pieces. They need to be put behind bars and a new decent political class needs to take their place.
 
Why am I not surprised to see Trump and Musk in a feud?

Perhaps because both are the same type of individuals, greedy, insecure, selfish and above all...untrustworthy.
 
It's a disgrace, while these "ladies" fight, the government's debt only goes up.

I note (again) the dollar amount of the debt doesn't matter nearly as much as Debt as a percentage of GDP.

Regardless: The fact remains that taxes are in general *far* too low; go back to the rates we had under the Clinton administration and the deficit largely goes away. The rest can be addressed by simply allowing to government to negotiate drug prices (which immediately cuts Medicare expenditures by a third, minimum). It's really easy to solve the budget problem, if not for the fact that raising taxes (even on Billionaires who dodge most of the payments anyway) is politically less popular then "more debt".
 
In government (and elsewhere), you have to be able to predict how things will evolve quickly and with precision. Of course, predictions are not easy and it's impossible to achieve 100% accuracy because there are many layers, chaotic sectors, personal assumptions and unpredictable “black swan” events. So, while Elon predicts X and Trump predicts Y, there's no clear mechanism to resolve these conflicting views. Jensen has tackled this issue by building a simulation environment(Omnisphere), so perhaps they should follow his approach. Without a more neutral method than personal opinions, it's hard to resolve such conflicts with high stakes.
 
The issues isn't far right or left. It's the republican party being hyjacked by rich **** heads who literally want to end democracy so they can get away with whatever they want.
We're being too kind... the republican party and their supporters are getting exactly what every sensible person told them would happen all along.
 
We're being too kind... the republican party and their supporters are getting exactly what every sensible person told them would happen all along.

Tbf though, it would help if the other party wasn't sorely the party people vote for when the GOP screws up too badly.

Regardless, you're seeing what happens when a political party starts to believe its own propaganda.
 
Wont be surprised if Elon falls out the window.
Better yet... on a plane to South America... let Elon experience that and then he can tell everyone on X about how people should be treated and the anger that incubates.

That's where terrorists come from... being treated as less than human.
 
Two individuals so vicious so full of bile and nastiness. Is it great to see all that directed now at each other, it gives me the opportunity to use a unique German word which describes my sentiments well : schadenfreude.

Perhaps Jimmy Kimmel described it best: “ Like coming downstairs on Christmas Morning and finding two Christmas Trees”
 
Scripted to a T. They know what their base wants and cares about (ie. Epstein Files, deficit spending, etc). Notice how the AI provision in the bill isn’t mentioned, removing states’ rights to create their own limits on AI governance and development.

This is a **** show. Better not fall for it.
 
Scripted to a T. They know what their base wants and cares about (ie. Epstein Files, deficit spending, etc). Notice how the AI provision in the bill isn’t mentioned, removing states’ rights to create their own limits on AI governance and development.

This is a **** show. Better not fall for it.
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