Elon Musk leaves government role amid Tesla struggles, budget backlash, and DOGE drama

[wiyosaya]

And what's hilarious you're using New York times as a sore switches generally considered to be biased. Let me try and not buy a source because it can be proven over and over again

More propaganda. In fact, its quite the opposite of what you claim without any proof. Here's a "citation" from a site that is relatively balanced in the stories it presents.

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/5308055-trump-corruption-rules-justice/

Its easy enough to find many more revelations like this.

In point of fact, if you look up the MAGA base reaction to the Qatar 747, you'll find from right-leaning sources that the MAGA base are not at all happy about the 747 grift. And its going to cost far more than buying a new plane from Boeing to retrofit this 747 to be secure enough to transport a president.

But as I said before, keep smokin' that propaganda.

EDIT: Better yet, ask yourself this question. Why does Trump's administration want to keep secret the records of what DOGE has done? If it's so good for the country, why not let every US citizen see those records? Instead, Trump's administration sued in court, and won, against giving access to DOGE records. https://apnews.com/article/supreme-...ecords-trump-14a1773b42ddad1e3367a39750a84bef

 

[Axeia]

that's why they are all losing record money because it's a get richer scheme right? You really are clueless, Trump and his people are losing money daily, the previous guy however made millions while in the white house as well as his family, and you want to call this administration corrupt, has the first president to ever lose money as president. Your TDS has clouded your ability to think.

Hah. You think he's losing money? The nonsense like selling Bibles, parts of his suit etc might make relatively little. But truth social and the meme coins definitely made quite a bit.
Clear evidence that the stock market fluctuations are used by his inner circle as well to make tons. Not saying the previous administration wasn't corrupt but Trump is very public about it.
Although the DOGE stuff imo was a good move as some of the stuff uncovered was truly ridiculous... It doesn't have a massive impact in the grand scheme of things. I would have much rather seen them look into defense spending.
Why is the F35 maintenance cost so high, does it actually need to be or are people lining their pockets.
Who made money off the Zumwalt class destroyers? There's no way that much money was spent to get such a terrible outcome with such obvious mistakes without massive corruption. Taking about billions there not a couple of millions. The US navy has a history of spending a lot to get very little.

 

[OortCloud]

His true goal is so much worse than money.
as he serves his purpose you focus on money and lose yourself in the shallow distractions created just for you.

Wow... that's deep man....oh no wait I just re-read it - it's just more maga nonsense with all the depths of a puddle.

 

[lonetac]

that's why they are all losing record money because it's a get richer scheme right? You really are clueless, Trump and his people are losing money daily, the previous guy however made millions while in the white house as well as his family, and you want to call this administration corrupt, has the first president to ever lose money as president. Your TDS has clouded your ability to think.

Trump has made more than 2 billion since taking the office in the 2nd term. Stop spreading your nonsense and lies here. Nobody believes this non sense you are spewing.

Just saying, the guy who wanted to turn TDS into a legal condition is arrested for being a pedo. its not a good look.

 

[netman]

Poor Elan...!

 

[wiyosaya]

This comment reflects the truth.
But none of the federal government(s) are providing the services that the several states contracted to them- These corporate dual citizens(gov't employees- 2.3 million on the payroll) DO NOT REPRESENT AMERICANS

The conspiracy theorists are out in droves.

"What you don't know, you invent!" Delen, Babylon 5 Season 4, episode "Deconstruction of Falling Stars."

 

[wiyosaya]

Why does Trump want to block access to what DOGE is doing? https://thehill.com/regulation/cour...trump-administration-supreme-court-discovery/
Classic move by a dictator.

 

[wiyosaya]

Trump has made more than 2 billion since taking the office in the 2nd term. Stop spreading your nonsense and lies here. Nobody believes this non sense you are spewing.

Just saying, the guy who wanted to turn TDS into a legal condition is arrested for being a pedo. its not a good look.

Trump will probably try to pardon him.

 

[wiyosaya]

no point debating with pathetic cultist, they claim other people have a syndrome while wearing magat hats, with flags of the taco man on their property, and buying merchandises with his face on it but other people have a "syndrome"

Maybe Trump should get "The Village People" to change "Macho Man" to "Taco Man."

 

[candle86]

Got any more of that propaganda you're smokin'? Its some pretty strong BS to state the effect you think its having after only 130-days of 47. When it catches up with you, your tune will change.

In the meantime, keep smokin' that propaganda. It will keep your head buried so deep in the BS, you will remain among the clueless. Unless, of course, you finally realize that no one in 47's administration, including 47 himself, knows anything about what they are doing.

FYI - other presidents have tried this approach. It made things far worse than when they started. What's that saying about history repeating itself when people fail to learn history's lesson?

Nah shut down the forigen aid non sense, shut down the drag shows, shut it all down none of it is worth funding, not with my tax dollars, my taxes are to benefit me not some queer in Africa.

Also your ascertains of Trump benefits are also baseless https://finance.yahoo.com/news/3-reasons-donald-trump-net-120217470.html

His personal NetWorth has fallen, his family has made money, he himself has not made any money, same goes for Musk, they've both been losing money. If their goal was to make even more money they'd have stayed out of politics. And no trump's family members money is not his money, and it never has been, if you can prove his children are corrupt bring that evidence, as for the Jet, while it appears sus, Boeing has been unable to provide a plane for a decade, likely to many lazy blue haired Weidos at the plant to successfully build something with working doors so he had to do what he had to do.

 

[wiyosaya]

Nah shut down the forigen aid non sense, shut down the drag shows, shut it all down none of it is worth funding, not with my tax dollars, my taxes are to benefit me not some queer in Africa.

Then maybe you should lobby Trump and his minions to give your Tax Dollars back to you.

But you controlling where your tax dollars go is not how it works in the US. Focusing on conspiracy theories propagated in political rhetoric is not the same thing as truth.

Instead, he's maintaining giving tax dollars back to the 1%, and I doubt you rank that high.

Here's another opinion of Trump and his "wealth." https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/5324495-trumps-new-dei-drama-exaggeration-and-incoherence/

And yes, Musk has said he's going to stop being involved in politics. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...ics/elon-musk-donald-trump-doge-b2736753.html

I know, have a Pity Party for them. $4.8 billion is still $4.8 billion. It would take a long time for either Trump or Musk to go broke.

 

[dirtyferret]

Maybe Trump should get "The Village People" to change "Macho Man" to "Taco Man."

done by Jimmy Kimmel

 

[candle86]

Then maybe you should lobby Trump and his minions to give your Tax Dollars back to you.

But you controlling where your tax dollars go is not how it works in the US. Focusing on conspiracy theories propagated in political rhetoric is not the same thing as truth.

Instead, he's maintaining giving tax dollars back to the 1%, and I doubt you rank that high.

Here's another opinion of Trump and his "wealth." https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/5324495-trumps-new-dei-drama-exaggeration-and-incoherence/

And yes, Musk has said he's going to stop being involved in politics. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...ics/elon-musk-donald-trump-doge-b2736753.html

I know, have a Pity Party for them. $4.8 billion is still $4.8 billion. It would take a long time for either Trump or Musk to go broke.

Again you're missing they're counting the Trump organization run by his children not Trump's net worth typical for liberals it's only looking half truths and not the whole truth it's kind of how you people thrive.
Arizona conspiracy theory I don't care about queer people in Africa I don't care if they're murdered I don't care that's not what my tax dollars are for. My tax dollar should not be used to solve your humanitarian crisis nor should it be used to buy missiles to defend Ukraine from Russia not my problem I don't care.

 

[wiyosaya]

Again you're missing they're counting the Trump organization run by his children not Trump's net worth typical for liberals it's only looking half truths and not the whole truth it's kind of how you people thrive.
Arizona conspiracy theory I don't care about queer people in Africa I don't care if they're murdered I don't care that's not what my tax dollars are for. My tax dollar should not be used to solve your humanitarian crisis nor should it be used to buy missiles to defend Ukraine from Russia not my problem I don't care.

UH-huh. His children are certainly enriching themselves due to Daddy's position. If Biden's children had tried to do so, the Conservaturds would have cried bloody murder.

And you're still spouting conspiracy theories and political rhetoric in regards to US-AID. Yet you're OK with Trumpy giving tax breaks to billionaires. I just love Conservaturd hypocrisy.

How about something else in Trump's "Big, Beautiful Bill"

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5325547-republicans-trump-big-beautiful-bill-town-halls/

One of the most viral moments from the event, however, came in response to a question about a small provision in the package that seeks to restrict federal judges’ ability to hold government officials in contempt when they violate a court order. The language — a small paragraph in the 1,000-plus-page bill — flew largely under the radar ahead of the vote.

Does that concern you?

Fortunately, there are GOP voters that are concerned about the BS that the current Trump admin is pulling.

Why not talk about something Musk admits to - his drug use. https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5325589-elon-musk-drug-use-reports/
Musk admits being a druggie.

When Trumpy's policies affect you, don't come here and cry about it.

 

[bclaymiles]

In point of fact, if you look up the MAGA base reaction to the Qatar 747, you'll find from right-leaning sources that the MAGA base are not at all happy about the 747 grift. And its going to cost far more than buying a new plane from Boeing to retrofit this 747 to be secure enough to transport a president.

The VC-25B's - the three replacement Airforce One aircraft - were supposed to be _delivered_ by 2017, 2019, and 2021, respectively. That was later trimmed to two. Those two are former civilian passenger 747's that are being retrofitted. Work _began_ in 2020, with expected delivery in 2029. So, in all cases, it's existing 747-8 aircraft that are being retrofitted, not built custom from the ground up.

Retrofitting this jet is the largest expense regardless, and it'll cost little more than retrofitting the existing two that are in progress. The biggest questions are whether it'll be complete before the end of Trump's term, and whether it really will transfer to Trump's library after his term. I believe the answers will be no and no. However, it's still a free (as in beer) 747-8.

 

[Axeia]

Arizona conspiracy theory I don't care about queer people in Africa I don't care if they're murdered I don't care that's not what my tax dollars are for. My tax dollar should not be used to solve your humanitarian crisis

Crude but somewhat understandable

nor should it be used to buy missiles to defend Ukraine from Russia not my problem I don't care.

Shouldn't it?
Logically looking at it it's some of the most efficient money ever spent. At the price of mostly old surplus what was seen as the biggest or second biggest adversary has lost more tanks than most other countries even have (over 4k confirmed, but might be as has high as 10k tanks). Its artillery munition is depleted, one of its irreplaceable AWAC planes (of which it only has a handful) lost, etc etc.
Not to mention it's future military capability is undermined as with how a lot of its equipment has performed buyers are pulling out decreasing Russia's ability to fund those programs.
Additionally Ukraine was considered an ally and like it or not the US has positioned itself as the world police over the years. On top of that the US signed the Budapest memorandum which is what l ended up landing Ukraine in this mess. (And the other main guy that signed it is the one who started it).

I'd be more worried about the money spend on for example the US littoral combat ship - ballooned to the costs of about the same as the aid donated to Ukraine and achieved... not sure. They got decommissioned almost immediately because they're that problematic!
Realistically looking at it the LCS failure probably cost even more because the reported costs of aid donated to Ukraine are skewed towards making them look rather inflated*.

* The reported costs are what is donated would have cost to replace with something new, at full price. For the Abrams tanks donated for example that likely means:
The donated tank was the Abrams M1A1 (produced somewhere in 85-92) at a cost of about $4.3 million.
The replacement and reported cost would be the M1A2 SEPv3 at about $24 million.
For something like cluster munition that wouldn't even be produced anymore and realistically would have to be decommissioned at costs higher than just shipping it to Ukraine I don't even know how the bookkeeping would work.

tldr: At the cost of a failed navy program the US can now stop worrying about Russia as a potential rival the most efficient money it's ever spent.

 

[candle86]

Crude but somewhat understandable


Shouldn't it?
Logically looking at it it's some of the most efficient money ever spent. At the price of mostly old surplus what was seen as the biggest or second biggest adversary has lost more tanks than most other countries even have (over 4k confirmed, but might be as has high as 10k tanks). Its artillery munition is depleted, one of its irreplaceable AWAC planes (of which it only has a handful) lost, etc etc.
Not to mention it's future military capability is undermined as with how a lot of its equipment has performed buyers are pulling out decreasing Russia's ability to fund those programs.
Additionally Ukraine was considered an ally and like it or not the US has positioned itself as the world police over the years. On top of that the US signed the Budapest memorandum which is what l ended up landing Ukraine in this mess. (And the other main guy that signed it is the one who started it).

I'd be more worried about the money spend on for example the US littoral combat ship - ballooned to the costs of about the same as the aid donated to Ukraine and achieved... not sure. They got decommissioned almost immediately because they're that problematic!
Realistically looking at it the LCS failure probably cost even more because the reported costs of aid donated to Ukraine are skewed towards making them look rather inflated*.

* The reported costs are what is donated would have cost to replace with something new, at full price. For the Abrams tanks donated for example that likely means:
The donated tank was the Abrams M1A1 (produced somewhere in 85-92) at a cost of about $4.3 million.
The replacement and reported cost would be the M1A2 SEPv3 at about $24 million.
For something like cluster munition that wouldn't even be produced anymore and realistically would have to be decommissioned at costs higher than just shipping it to Ukraine I don't even know how the bookkeeping would work.

tldr: At the cost of a failed navy program the US can now stop worrying about Russia as a potential rival the most efficient money it's ever spent.

My concern and it's the one issue I have with Trump is that we're spending any money anywhere in the world besides Israel because there are one true ally. No more money for NATO no more money to the UN no more money for anybody besides Israel. This is real plain and simple Europe's not America's friend and they haven't been since the Cold war ended we don't have friends in Asia either. It's kind of simple those or send to New York and knock over you and headquarters and turn it into a parking lot it's time to cut off the globalists completely let them figure it out on their own I don't wish to be the world's police anymore I don't care what happens to the rest of the world they're not my problem.

As far as Russia truthfully we should have done what we should have done back in the '90s which was not treat Russia like they're still an adversary we should have helped them rebuild their military of the Western munitions training doctors etc we should assimilated them like we did the rest of the Eastern European states they'd be turncoats just like the rest of NATO is but at least they wouldn't be a threat to us because they do so perverse and weekend by their own internal discord over progressive ideology they want to be able to function anyway AKA not a real threat That's what we should have done

 

[bexwhitt]

Musk like Trump sleep maybe 2-4hours a day, work is what keeps them healthy and alive, trust me, Musk is not done, Ai-Musk will be on Doge monitoring Gov spending sooner than you think

drugs keep Musk going, not work.

 

[StupidPeopleSuk]

What's that saying about history repeating itself when people fail to learn history's lesson?

Well, as the great Gen. G.S. Patton said: "History teaches us that history teaches us NOTHING"