Twitter suspends accounts of several journalists, blocks Mastodon following Elon Musk...

[Theinsanegamer]

Comparing twitter bans to the holocaust.

Journalists have done the same before.

It's like everyone forgot that Twitter users would happily ban people for "doxxxing" then immediately turn around and do the same thing. If one of them got banned it was suddenly a huge threat to American democracy. (See also, their pearl clutching over "naughty websites")

Now the shoes on the other foot and it's absolutely hilarious. No more double standards. Just don't dox. It's not that hard.

Of course since journoscum are the lowest life forms on earth it can't be helped they can't follow this one rule.

 

[m4a4]

They made it a part of the TOS after the fact to justify why they banned the Elon Jet tracking account. They essentially started banning people nearly immediately after making this change to their TOS, so it's not like people would have even had time to make changes to abide by the new TOS or even be aware this was now in the TOS.

Quick to apply it then.

But hey, at least it's not on the whims of the Chief Twit if it's actually against TOS now.

Though, I doubt they had nothing close to against this in their TOS before...

 

[umbala]

Journalists have done the same before.

It's like everyone forgot that Twitter users would happily ban people for "doxxxing" then immediately turn around and do the same thing. If one of them got banned it was suddenly a huge threat to American democracy. (See also, their pearl clutching over "naughty websites")

Now the shoes on the other foot and it's absolutely hilarious. No more double standards. Just don't dox. It's not that hard.

What the heck are you talking about? What you said makes no sense. Twitter users would happily ban people? Twitter users do not have the power to ban anyone. Do you even know what "doxxing" means? It means to post personal information including home address, etc. Show me a single example where a journalist posted someone's personal information on Twitter. You can't. Also, everything that was posted about Musk does not fall under "doxxing" it was publicly available flight data that is required by law to be disclosed.

The shoe is on the other foot? Really? You people were complaining when Twitter was banning users after they violated their policies many times over and refused to stop. Now Musk is just banning random people he doesn't like for vague, ridiculous reasons and this is somehow better? Wow, you people really have a funny definition of "free speech".

Of course since journoscum are the lowest life forms on earth it can't be helped they can't follow this one rule.

This last line explains everything about you and your opinions.

But hey, at least it's not on the whims of the Chief Twit if it's actually against TOS now.

Well as long as it's against their TOS that makes perfectly fine then. Free Speech means you can't make fun of or criticize Elon Musk, doing it to others is fine though. Free Speech means you can't post publicly available flight data about Musk's private jet because that's doxxing now. Free Speech means you can't advertise a competing social media platform on Twitter because Musk doesn't like competition against something for which he grossly overpaid. Should I keep going?

They might as well just change their TOS to say "you can't post anything that may offend Elon Musk's delicate sensibilities or you will be permanently banned". Oh and that reminds me, what happened to Musk's promise to never permanently ban anyone from Twitter? That didn't last long.

 

[axiomatic13]

LOL at those defending the man-baby. Your savior is having a full-on tantrum and you're still trying to defend him. It's hilarious.

 

[dangh]

Holocaust didn't start with concentration camps, but with people, who were deciding what you can talk about, and other people, who were looking other way instead of acting.
Social media were behind Brexit and unrest at US Capitol.
Looking away do not help. Social media have huge influence changing people's mind. Some will not be affected but you cant look away and hope majority wont come with some stupid ideas when you weren't looking.

 

[AlaskaGuy]

Trump broke them, Elon finished them off.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1603853851504697344

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1603608622231334912

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1603651895620403202

Twitter suspends liberal journalist Aaron Rupar and string of other reporters

Billionaire’s social media platform also suspended Donie O’Sullivan, Drew Harwell, Keith Olberman and Ryan Mac

www.independent.co.uk

 

[Crabjuice]

Comparing twitter bans to the holocaust.

Except he(?) wasn't. He was told not to look if he didn't like it. He used some hyperbolic examples to show why you should look.

 

[Crabjuice]

Trump broke them, Elon finished them off.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1603853851504697344

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1603608622231334912

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1603651895620403202

Twitter suspends liberal journalist Aaron Rupar and string of other reporters

Billionaire’s social media platform also suspended Donie O’Sullivan, Drew Harwell, Keith Olberman and Ryan Mac

www.independent.co.uk

Lol, the only thing Elon demonstrated is that he is as big of a hypocrite as they are.

 

[ZedRM]

Looks like he is doing everything he can to make sure that Twitter goes out of business, to which I personally have no objections, it would be best for everyone, really.

Or he's trying to make the platform welcoming to everyone who has reasonable sensibilities and scare of all the daft snowflakes and "woke" goose-stepping-twaddle mongers.

 

[ZedRM]

Comparing twitter bans to the holocaust.

Ironic isn't it?

 

[Ohnooze]

I don't see the problem with this.
He is one of the wealthiest men in the world and giving out his location is a safety concern.

 

[waclark]

Although I don't agree with what Musk is doing with Twitter, the fact remains that this is a private company. As such, he can do whatever he wants.

At least you're being fair about it. I am laughing at all the people who, prior to Musk, said Twitter can do what they want with accounts in regards to banning or censoring them. Now, many of those same people are crying foul! As far as I'm concerned I agree with not wanting your flight schedule posted on Twitter. While it may be public info I doubt many people would know where to go and look that up, much less provide a real-time location for a jet in flight. There are real people out there who might want to do harm to Musk or his family. And the same could be said for other wealthy people, so I don't have an issue with it since it's not like censoring a story about political wrong-doing.

As for Taylor Lorenz, well, she's nothing short of a whacked out hypocrite. She doesn't mind doxing people she doesn't like but cries like a little girl when people clap back. Using her as any kind of example here diminishes the article and the point it's trying to make.

 

[wiyosaya]

IMO, everyone defending Musk is the interesting thing about this. I agree, it is his right since he now owns Twitter, to do what he is doing because of how free speech rights applies only to government entities in the US. Twitter is not a government entity.

However, this "behavior" is exactly the same behavior that many were complaining about when Twitter was not owned by Musk. Which, to me, shows the hypocritical nature of Musk and those championing him as some sort of "free speech" rights proponent/divine being. I think many comments express ignorance of free speech rights and how they apply in the US.

Musk is simply showing us he's a hypocrite much like that other site "Truth Social" that also bans users for similar reasons while claiming to support free speech rights.

I can just see the article and the comments when Musk bans those with right leaning opinions - again.

BTW - I could give less than a crap about Twitter because I do not have an account and likely never will. Twitter is a huge waste of time, IMO.

EDIT: For those who do not know already, Musk has been replaced as the "Wealthiest man in the world". https://www.ibtimes.com/30-facts-about-bernard-arnault-new-richest-person-world-3647939

 

[Plutoisaplanet]

Sure, he can do whatever he wants. But he's doing these things AFTER he's complained about the Twitter board doing the same thing and AFTER promising he wouldn't be doing it himself. Didn't he promise to save humanity by bringing free speech back to Twitter? Apparently free speech means he bans anyone he doesn't like.

This is his new commitment:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1598004480066621441

This also backs up much earlier comments he made:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1529718955513880576

And here’s one way he’s enabling transparency (beyond the Twitter Files):

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1601042125130371072

 

[wiyosaya]

Ha! Musk - what a joke - https://www.usnews.com/news/world/a...spension-of-journalists-draws-global-backlash

Yet another Musk ploy to keep his name in the news.

 

[Ohnooze]

IMO, everyone defending Musk is the interesting thing about this. I agree, it is his right since he now owns Twitter, to do what he is doing because of how free speech rights applies only to government entities in the US. Twitter is not a government entity.

However, this "behavior" is exactly the same behavior that many were complaining about when Twitter was not owned by Musk. Which, to me, shows the hypocritical nature of Musk and those championing him as some sort of "free speech" rights proponent/divine being. I think many comments express ignorance of free speech rights and how they apply in the US.

Musk is simply showing us he's a hypocrite much like that other site "Truth Social" that also bans users for similar reasons while claiming to support free speech rights.

I can just see the article and the comments when Musk bans those with right leaning opinions - again.

BTW - I could give less than a crap about Twitter because I do not have an account and likely never will. Twitter is a huge waste of time, IMO.

EDIT: For those who do not know already, Musk has been replaced as the "Wealthiest man in the world". https://www.ibtimes.com/30-facts-about-bernard-arnault-new-richest-person-world-3647939

Completely disagree.
It's a privacy and safety issue. No one should be allowed to be tracked. It's an invasion of privacy imo.

 

[wiyosaya]

Completely disagree.
It's a privacy and safety issue. No one should be allowed to be tracked. It's an invasion of privacy imo.

I guess we are going to need laws for that then. If the information is publicly available, making it easier to access is no different from finding your info on My Life, for instance.

And yes, I agree. (you and I agreeing, imagine that ) Everyone, even Elon Musk, has a right to privacy - but where is that found these days with the internet? IMO, it is found almost nowhere. Even the post on TS about removing yourself from the internet is an exercise in futility.

I know the right does not like laws, but IMO, such laws are needed and the US should follow the example of the GDPR from Europe and perhaps, implement something stronger - if the US could only get those that profit from the lack of such laws out of the pockets of its politicians.

 

[Enaks]

Completely disagree.
It's a privacy and safety issue. No one should be allowed to be tracked. It's an invasion of privacy imo.

Every jet has to have a transponder installed mandated by law in many jurisdictions. This information is freely available and easily found, which is also stipulated in law.

If he doesn’t want to be ‘tracked’, he could always slum it with the plebs on commercial flights and not use a private jet?

This website isn’t ‘doxxing’ anyone

https://globe.adsbexchange.com/

 

[axiomatic13]

Elon caved today and reinstated the accounts. (giggle) Man baby.

 

[Ohnooze]

Every jet has to have a transponder installed mandated by law in many jurisdictions. This information is freely available and easily found, which is also stipulated in law.

If he doesn’t want to be ‘tracked’, he could always slum it with the plebs on commercial flights and not use a private jet?

This website isn’t ‘doxxing’ anyone

https://globe.adsbexchange.com/

And does it tell you who is on a jet? Or the owner of the jet? I mean I understand why a private jets flight pattern may be necessary but it's a bit much to be posting someone's location and whatnot. And it's douchey as well...but I guess what else would you expect from these people.

 

[Enaks]

And does it tell you who is on a jet? Or the owner of the jet? I mean I understand why a private jets flight pattern may be necessary but it's a bit much to be posting someone's location and whatnot. And it's douchey as well...but I guess what else would you expect from these people.

The @ElonJet account never told you whether Musk was on the jet either; it just told you the location of the jet - data mandated under aviation law.

The same goes for whomever owns the jet, it has to be registered to ‘somebody’ by law, you can find that data from any tail registration.

None of this is a persons location, it’s simply not doxxing.

 

[human7]

Shaka, when the walls fell.

Twitter, when Musk bought it.

 

[wiyosaya]

Elon caved today and reinstated the accounts. (giggle) Man baby.

And over the weekend, he, personally, suspended another reporter for reporting on the same story. Musk, IMO, is an utter hypocrite - and hopefully, his poll will result in people saying that he SHOULD step away from Twitter leadership.

What Musk has implemented is not free speech. It's Musk approved speech.