Two undersea cables in the Baltic Sea damaged in suspected sabotage

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What just happened? Sabotaging undersea internet cables has become a common act of aggression in recent times. Following disruption to two of these cables in the Baltic Sea, including one that appears to have been physically cut, it seems the tactic is once again being employed. And there's no prize for guessing the main suspect.

According to a spokesperson from telecommunications company Telia Lithuania who spoke to CNN, a communications cable between Lithuania and Sweden was cut on Sunday morning around 10:00 a.m. local time.

A disruption in traffic led to the company's monitoring system identifying the cut and determining that the cause was likely physical damage to the fiber optic cable itself.

About a fifth of Lithuania's internet capacity has been reduced, though consumers are not believed to have been affected.

Another cable, about 60 miles away, connecting Finland and Germany was also disrupted. The 730-mile C-Lion cable is the only direct connection between Finland and Central Europe. While the cause remains unknown, officials suspect that this was "intentional damage."

Courtesy of the BBC

Finnish telecoms and cyber security firm Cinia said the damage could take 5 to 15 days to repair. The line between Lithuania and Sweden is expected to take a couple of weeks to repair.

The finger of blame is, of course, pointing at Russia. In August, NATO warned that Russia may already have plans in place to target undersea fiber optic cables and scramble GPS signals as retaliation for Western support of Ukraine. There's around 745,000 miles of these cables, which facilitate 95% of global internet traffic.

As reported by the BBC, Germany and Finland have both said they are "deeply concerned" by the severing of the C-Lion1 communications cable, adding that Europe's security is threatened not only by Russia's war, "but also from hybrid warfare by malicious actors."

This isn't the first incident of this kind to take place in the Baltic Sea. In October 2023, a telecommunications cable between Sweden and Estonia was partially damaged. Swedish authorities reported that this occurred around the same time as the rupture of the Balticconnector gas pipeline between Finland and Estonia, during which an adjacent telecommunications cable connecting Finland and Estonia was damaged.

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Except the last time underwater sabotage was blamed on Russia it turned out to be the US so I’ll reserve judgment on the true culprit for more facts to come out.

You're correct. Seymour Hersh was right again. I was banned on Fakebook trying to expose this.

NEEVA AI admitted this and the program was shut down. NEEVA ratted them out lol. I still saved my screenshots. "BALTOPS22"
 
In the modern economy, the Internet is crucial on many levels. This type of sabotage is no different than throwing a bomb and destroying a building. The financial damage can be even greater.

NATO is showing that it is useless by allowing Russia, or rather Putin, to do whatever he wants. Two-thirds of the world's GDP for this? Seriously? A terrible example to show China, North Korea and Iran.
 
In the modern economy, the Internet is crucial on many levels. This type of sabotage is no different than throwing a bomb and destroying a building. The financial damage can be even greater.

NATO is showing that it is useless by allowing Russia, or rather Putin, to do whatever he wants. Two-thirds of the world's GDP for this? Seriously? A terrible example to show China, North Korea and Iran.
Weak Western leaders are the real problem.
 
NATO is showing that it is useless by allowing Russia, or rather Putin, to do whatever he wants. Two-thirds of the world's GDP for this? Seriously? A terrible example to show China, North Korea and Iran.

Maybe NATO wants to be sure Russia is actually responsible before starting WWIII with the second largest nuclear power in the world.

I mean, tough bluster is great in a world with no consequences where the "good guys" are always right and the "bad guys" are always wrong, but we live in the real world where there is actual nuance to complex topics and wars always kill a lot of innocent people.
 
Maybe NATO wants to be sure Russia is actually responsible before starting WWIII with the second largest nuclear power in the world.

I mean, tough bluster is great in a world with no consequences where the "good guys" are always right and the "bad guys" are always wrong, but we live in the real world where there is actual nuance to complex topics and wars always kill a lot of innocent people.
No. Dictators are monsters that feed on fear.

Buying into the bravado of dictators will never be the solution; it only makes the problem worse. Given the current state of affairs, Putin can destroy the infrastructure of any Western country, and by threatening to drop atomic bombs, nothing will happen because Western leaders are weak-willed;

It is very stupid to believe Putin's threats, knowing that NATO has the economic and military power to completely decimate Russia in response. No one gains anything by exchanging atomic bombs, but NATO has a better chance. In conventional war, Russia has zero chance of winning. In every possible aspect, the weakness of the West is an inexplicable shame.
 
I would bet money on The Blob being responsible for the cable warfare. The US Agency Bolsheviks are out of control-Nordstream, the cables and now long range US missiles at Russia. Between Ukraine's mineral wealth and the "keep Trump out of the WH at all costs", it's going to get very ugly over the next two months.
 
You're correct. Seymour Hersh was right again. I was banned on Fakebook trying to expose this.

NEEVA AI admitted this and the program was shut down. NEEVA ratted them out lol. I still saved my screenshots. "BALTOPS22"

Sounds like you are contributing to fake news. There is no evidence to indicate who did it.
 
Maybe NATO wants to be sure Russia is actually responsible before starting WWIII with the second largest nuclear power in the world.

I mean, tough bluster is great in a world with no consequences where the "good guys" are always right and the "bad guys" are always wrong, but we live in the real world where there is actual nuance to complex topics and wars always kill a lot of innocent people.
I get it, but do you honestly think NATO will do anything over some net cables? Lets say they got 100% proof it was Russia... Will they start WW3 over this? Lol. Doubt it. I even doubt they will defend Romania or Poland. Is it worth the risk of WW3 over these countries? Most people would say no. Humanity vanishing vs Russia taking Poland? Hell, most americans and many european people think its not worth it. Not my opinion btw, I say go to war. We cant have a new Hitler, no way.

Anyways, they might do something about it when Russia is at Germany/Italy/Frace/UK tho. The other 20 countries? I kind of doubt it. You think they will go to war over Greece? Over Bulgaria? Over Croatia? Over many others lesser places (lesser in their eyes obviously, everyone is equal imho) I think not. The US for sure wont. After Trump, I dunno if they would even defend the UK lol.
 
Sounds like you are contributing to fake news. There is no evidence to indicate who did it.

Do your research. Fake news comes from CNN and MSNBC. Funny how conspiracy theories are usually right sometimes it takes years till the truth comes out. I bet you think the laptop is still fake. I spent years connecting the dots. I'm usually right most of the time.
 
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Do your research. Fake news comes from CNN and MSNBC. Funny how conspiracy theories are usually right sometimes it takes years till the truth comes out. I bet you think the laptop is still fake. I spent years connecting the dots. I'm usually right most of the time.
The classic, "mainstream media can't be trusted", and "Do your research" when someone doesn't believe your claims, rather than providing credible source material. I'm gonna assume it's some silly name on Twitter?
 
I get it, but do you honestly think NATO will do anything over some net cables? Lets say they got 100% proof it was Russia... Will they start WW3 over this? Lol. Doubt it. I even doubt they will defend Romania or Poland. Is it worth the risk of WW3 over these countries? Most people would say no. Humanity vanishing vs Russia taking Poland? Hell, most americans and many european people think its not worth it. Not my opinion btw, I say go to war. We cant have a new Hitler, no way.

Anyways, they might do something about it when Russia is at Germany/Italy/Frace/UK tho. The other 20 countries? I kind of doubt it. You think they will go to war over Greece? Over Bulgaria? Over Croatia? Over many others lesser places (lesser in their eyes obviously, everyone is equal imho) I think not. The US for sure wont. After Trump, I dunno if they would even defend the UK lol.
No they wouldn't go to WW3 over cables, but they would use cables as an excuse to keep the war in Ukraine going. Because they wanted that war, so they provoked it. Putin had stated that bringing Ukraine into NATO was his "red line" - consider if the Russia had added Mexico to the Soviet Union and how we would respond (or did respond to nukes getting placed in Cuba). NATO was not supposed to move east after WW2 as part of the treaty. Yet NATO slowly moved closer and closer to Russia and it is at least partially the anti-Russia alliance. So the war in Ukraine isn't really about saving Ukrainians it's about trying bleed Russia in a proxy war. We provide the money, Ukraine provides the bodies, and Russia only loses. Except, it hasn't worked out exactly as planned. U.S. dominance of the world actually slipped a bit and Russia has been able to sell oil and not in U.S. dollars (the global norm), a double win against the ban. Hopefully, the war will end soon so Ukrainians no longer have to suffer for what is really a U.S. - Russia spat.
 
No they wouldn't go to WW3 over cables, but they would use cables as an excuse to keep the war in Ukraine going. Because they wanted that war, so they provoked it. Putin had stated that bringing Ukraine into NATO was his "red line" - consider if the Russia had added Mexico to the Soviet Union and how we would respond (or did respond to nukes getting placed in Cuba). NATO was not supposed to move east after WW2 as part of the treaty. Yet NATO slowly moved closer and closer to Russia and it is at least partially the anti-Russia alliance. So the war in Ukraine isn't really about saving Ukrainians it's about trying bleed Russia in a proxy war. We provide the money, Ukraine provides the bodies, and Russia only loses. Except, it hasn't worked out exactly as planned. U.S. dominance of the world actually slipped a bit and Russia has been able to sell oil and not in U.S. dollars (the global norm), a double win against the ban. Hopefully, the war will end soon so Ukrainians no longer have to suffer for what is really a U.S. - Russia spat.
This is pure madness; copy and paste. Ukraine is a free country. No one has to accept the rules of any dictator, stop making false equivalences with real countries vs. unstable dictatorships that enslave their own people in a bubble of ignorance.

I agree that weak leaders are responsible for this, much like how weak leaders allowed Hitler to rise and cause far more suffering than necessary.
 
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