Vermont flood victims can get up to $18,500 in credits to replace damaged cars with EVs

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Why it matters: Vermont has a problem with flooding, having experienced many devastating events in its history. Federal and state resources have been deployed to help residents in response, but after the latest flood event, the state is trying something new: incentives to switch to an EV if a car was damaged by the rising waters. Vermont is the perfect petri dish to try out this incentive too: EV sales have been gaining momentum in the state over the last few years, and it boasts the highest number of EV charging stations per capita in the US.

Vermont has been devastated by flooding not once but twice in the last year, most recently by remnants from Hurricane Beryl, causing significant damage to property, at least two deaths, and untold misery. Now, the state's Agency of Transportation is using the opportunity to get Vermonters to transition to a clean energy vehicle if their gas-powered car had to be scrapped because it was flooded.

Income-eligible Vermont residents can get up to $6,000 for new plug-in electric vehicles, up to $5,000 for scrapping a gas- or diesel-powered car in exchange for a used EV, and up to $5,000 for a qualifying high-efficiency used vehicle. If you add on the federal tax credit for electric vehicles, that comes to a potential savings of up to $18,500.

"This program will help those whose vehicles were flooded upgrade to a new vehicle that's better for the environment," said Governor Phil Scott.

Here is a breakdown of the math.

The state's Replace Your Ride Program offers up to $5,000 for swapping a gas- or diesel-powered car with a used EV. For a new or leased EV, the state will add $1,000 to that tally, bringing the total up to $6,000 for Vermont residents who want to replace their flood-damaged cars.

Another state program, MileageSmart, which offers up to 25% of a vehicle's price when switching to a high-efficiency used vehicle, will now give $5,000 to Vermonters who want to replace a flood-damaged car with a more environmentally friendly used vehicle. The state defines a high-efficiency vehicle as having an efficiency rating of 40 miles per gallon or higher, and the category includes hybrids, plug-in hybrids and all-electric cars.

Participants can combine the incentives in these programs to get $11,000 off the price of a new EV and up to $10,000 off the price of a used EV. Bundling the state incentives with the $7,500 federal tax credit results in savings of up to $18,500 for buying or leasing a new EV in Vermont.

It is unclear how many vehicles were damaged in the recent flooding, but EVs have been gaining significant traction in Vermont. As of July 2023, there were over 10,000 electric vehicles registered in the state, with the Nissan LEAF being the most popular model. This number represents a substantial increase from the previous year, where the number of EVs on Vermont's roads nearly doubled from 6,000 to 10,000.

Vermont is also making strides in an area that is of great concern to potential EV buyers, namely EV infrastructure. It boasts the highest number of EV charging stations per capita in the US, with 396 public charging stations, including 53 fast chargers. That said, some parts of the state still lack adequate charging facilities, which presents a challenge for residents without home charging.

It should be obvious by now that the state has ambitious goals for EV adoption, aiming for 25% of all registered vehicles to be powered by renewable sources by 2030. To meet this target, Vermont needs to have 27,000 plug-in electric vehicles by 2025 and 126,000 by 2030. These new incentives will likely help those numbers along.

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I'm not a fan of EV for a lot of reasons, but one of my biggest ones is fire. A Lit-Ion battery in EV burns up to 5000 degrees (F) when compared to an ICE vehicle that burns up to 1500 degrees (F).

"U.S. fire departments respond to an average of 287,000 vehicle fires per year (nearly 17% of all reported fires). These fires cause an estimated 480 civilian deaths (more than 12% of all U.S. civilian fire deaths), 1,525 civilian injuries, and $1.3 billion in direct property damage annually."
(https://www.charleston-sc.gov/722/Vehicle-Fire-Safety)

If EV start becoming the norm with the current technology we will see an increase in deaths, injuries and property damage. Also, if there is no new methodology to putting out said EV fires it's going to take a ton more water to put them out over an ICE vehicle. EVs are only going to compound issues that no one wants to bring up. Everyone focuses on the stupid stuff such as "green energy".
 
I'm not a fan of EV for a lot of reasons, but one of my biggest ones is fire. A Lit-Ion battery in EV burns up to 5000 degrees (F) when compared to an ICE vehicle that burns up to 1500 degrees (F).

"U.S. fire departments respond to an average of 287,000 vehicle fires per year (nearly 17% of all reported fires). These fires cause an estimated 480 civilian deaths (more than 12% of all U.S. civilian fire deaths), 1,525 civilian injuries, and $1.3 billion in direct property damage annually."
(https://www.charleston-sc.gov/722/Vehicle-Fire-Safety)

If EV start becoming the norm with the current technology we will see an increase in deaths, injuries and property damage. Also, if there is no new methodology to putting out said EV fires it's going to take a ton more water to put them out over an ICE vehicle. EVs are only going to compound issues that no one wants to bring up. Everyone focuses on the stupid stuff such as "green energy".
Batteries are protected just as much as the fuel tank in gasoline powered cars. 1500 degrees is still too hot for a person to deal with, so it doesn't really matter.
 
Fine-print Disclaimer:
“Rebate is limited only to those attempting to flee the rising waters in their EVs who were stranded and were either electrocuted or did not survive subsequent drowning.” Offer Void in Red states.
 
I just don't understand the EV hate? I own a small oil and gas company. Likewise, I use solar everywhere. The well-heads, power tools, lights, telemetry. Why would I burn my own product that I want to sell?
 
While electric cars offer many benefits, they also have some drawbacks. Limited driving range and longer recharging times compared to refueling gasoline vehicles can be inconvenient, especially on long trips. Charging infrastructure is still developing, so finding charging stations can be challenging. The initial purchase price of electric cars is often higher than traditional vehicles, although this can be offset by lower running costs and incentives. Additionally, battery production and disposal have environmental impacts that need addressing. That is why I am not yet ready to switch to an electrocar😞
 
While electric cars offer many benefits, they also have some drawbacks. Limited driving range and longer recharging times compared to refueling gasoline vehicles can be inconvenient, especially on long trips. Charging infrastructure is still developing, so finding charging stations can be challenging. The initial purchase price of electric cars is often higher than traditional vehicles, although this can be offset by lower running costs and incentives. Additionally, battery production and disposal have environmental impacts that need addressing. That is why I am not yet ready to switch to an electrocar😞
Those are reasonable concerns. It is not you who I am referring to. It's the die hard gas only people. The ones that somehow think EV's and solar are taking jobs away from oil and gas. It's silly, my employees moonlight at wind farms that are close to make extra money. The skills are highly interchangeable.
 
Interesting idea.

But won’t that EV be destroyed in the next flood?

Yes, but I don't think that matters much here. The goal of these incentives are to sell more EVs, and needing to replace even more EVs would further that goal. Remember, if it makes sense, that's probably not what the government policy is.
 
18,500...well, that MIGHT cover most of the cost in a few years when you have to REPLACE the battery pack.
No mention how often some require the tires to be replaced.
 
So charging my Ford Lightning with my solar panels on my roof doesn't count as green? Who knew?

The thing is… it actually doesn’t. Your ford lightning has, in production, already used up as many greenhouse gases as a Suzuki Ignis would in production plus 5-10 years driving in a compact urban area. Add to that the destructive impacts from mining for battery minerals. So your carbon footprint ends up similar to someone who drives a smaller car while living in a more climate friendly urban area. And many times higher than someone living in a climate friendly urban area without owning any kind of car, instead relying on bicycling and transit.

‘Green’ is considering the entire supply chain, as well as other factors than carbon footprint. TLDR; EV’s are not the greenest transportation technology we have by any means. They are more comparable to ICE cars than they are to public transit, cycling, and walking.
 
So charging my Ford Lightning with my solar panels on my roof doesn't count as green? Who knew?

Think on this...
Where are you going to dump your Truck once it gets old, or gets in an accident..? (Your insurance may not cover the TOXIC disposal of your wrecked car, etc..)


Such type of Vehicles have their purpose, but it is the US Government that should lead the way. Such as ALL US Postal vehicles should be EVs, because they are routed everyday and stop/start at each mailbox and at night get stored for the next day.

IMO, EV's are for those who commute in traffic everyday to work and spend a lot of time idle and wasting energy. (LA, NYC, D.C., Miami, etc...)
 
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