Want to upgrade CPU and Video Card

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drneves7

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Well I don't have the info for my computer here at work. But here is what I can remember off hand.

It is a gateway computer that I bought 6 or 7 years ago. It has a 933MHz amd processor not sure which one. I think I have 3 256 memory cards in it. it has a 3 or 4 year old video card in it. I think 64mb I know that I need to post all the actual specs. And I will in the am. But I thought maybe due to age I would be better off just starting over. The only thing I know is worth keeping is my hd which is 180g 7200 rpm deal. And my dvd drive. Still need a burner.

Basically I plan on buying a new mobo, cpu and video card. Oh obviously memory. Since I am pretty sure mine isn't DDR.

So if I can get any Suggestions on a good MOBO, CPU and memory Combo. I would like to keep it under 500$. Preferably includeing video card. I would find all the parts myself. But I don't know enough about compatability.:(

What it will be used for is probably your next question. I would like it to play games. It obviously won't be a super star but I would like to play the latest and greatest games with minimal problems. I am not a huge gamer but do enjoy playing them.

Well hope that is enough info I will post the specs of my pc when I get home from work. If somebody wants to post the link to the program that will tell me all that info if not I am going to go search for it right know I have seen it just don't remember where. :confused:

It is kind of sad that my lap top blows my desk top out of the water. :hotbounce

Thanks in advance,

Dominic

Now that I know that I need to start from scratch lets say close to five hundred I am not completely set at this price.
 
can't help ya . . 933Mhz makes me think its a PIII , could be intergrated graphics... or the famous Geforce MX400 :).

since your changing out the mobo , everything goes out the window.
basically want a new computer.
 
Definetly a Athlon proccessor. And it is and upgraded video it is just old in computer terms. Is there a chance that the mother board would be able to run a newer cpu or is it just obsolete.

And I saw in another forum that if I change mobo I will have purchase windows again. Do I?

I guess what I am getting at is Should I just buy a new pc and call it good. I am guessing yes.

Dominic
 
ME BIGGD01 said:
here is a quick shopping list.

DVD Burner
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16827106055
39.99

Memory 2x512-1 Gig
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820145440
93.99
CPU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103531
89.99

120 GIG HD
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16822148161
54.99

Case and Power supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811144125
99.99

Motherboard with onboard 6150 direct x9 card with shader 2 video card.
Decent enough to play old games but you may want a pci express to run new games. If you are not much of a gamer, this is a decent setup.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813186086
66.90

Total without OS cost
445.85
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Thanks for the build this is what I am looking for some Ideas of what to do. So minus the hard drive and case. What would you upgrade for games. I am currently playing World of Warcast. I will use my current hard drive and case and upgrade the power supply if need be.

Thanks Dominic
 
240PIN is DDR2 , 184 is DDR.

$500 is a hard budget to same within for a new comp.

1Gb Mem.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820145526
Abit mobo
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813127010
X800GT 256mb GDDR3
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814131420
AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103735
Coolmax 500W PSU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817159054

just at $500 , still would need all the miscellaneous (case,cables, monitor ect..)
This would crunch all newer games at a not so ridiculously high resolution.
 
Ok now that I know that I need to basically start from scratch. I am more flexable about the amount of money I am willing to put into it. I would like to start close to that price though maybe the basics but easily upgradeable. Kind of like in the first example no video card right off the bat. Which is good cause then I will be able to swing for a better one a little down the road.


So far it looks like: Case and Power Supply: 99.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811144125


CPU: Athlon 64x2 3800+ or Athlon 64 3800+
Which is the CPU I had in mind well atleast a 3800


MOBO: ?


Memory: 1 gig DDR or DDR2:D about 100.00
Obviously depending on MOBO


Video: ?


Hard Drive: 120 gig 54.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16822148161


CD Drive: DVD Burner 39.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16827106055


And keep in mind nothing here is set in stone not till I swipe the card.:b Not worried about keyboard and such.

So so far 294.97

Just need to figure out CPU, Mother Board and Video. Any suggestions I am listening.

Thanks for all the input all ready. I have learned a bunch tonight.

Thanks
Dominic
 
Well know I know the specs of my old pc. It is an AMD Athlon Thunderbird @ 950 MHz. It has 640 mb of SDRam. Video Card support is AGP 4x max. And I have a WD1200bb-000AA0 Hard drive. So I guess I need to start from scratch this is my first build and I am excited lots of research to do. And I am still all up for suggestions on hardware.

I still need to figure out this stuff:

Processor:

Mother Board:

Video Card: If needed right from the get go

And any suggestions to improve on what I have already selected if it cost about the same or a big improvement in performance.

After I build the pc I will post the build. With Thanks.

Thanks Dominic
 
Wait, are you, like, answering yourself? All I see are posts by you and Superinc....:suspiciou :confused: :eek:

Kinda hard to follow along, what happened, why aren't you going to reuse your harddrive and DVD?!
 
There were a whole bunch more post but I guess the guy got kicked of or something I just reread it all. That sucks very confusing.:(

Update: I deleted all my post in response MR BIGGD01 who I am guessing got kicked off or left. To bad because he was very supportive with me, but rubbed some people the wrong way on another thread.

And on the hard drive and dvd drive. I need to replace everything else so I figured why not spend less than a hundred bucks and get a modern hard drive and a dvd burner. And the upside I get to keep my old pc.

Update: I would like to keep the build in the 600-700 Dollar range.

Sorry about that
Dominic
 
drneves7 said:
There were a whole bunch more post but I guess the guy got kicked of or something I just reread it all. That sucks very confusing.:(

Update: I deleted all my post in response MR BIGGD01 who I am guessing got kicked off or left. To bad because he was very supportive with me, but rubbed some people the wrong way on another thread.

And on the hard drive and dvd drive. I need to replace everything else so I figured why not spend less than a hundred bucks and get a modern hard drive and a dvd burner. And the upside I get to keep my old pc.

Update: I would like to keep the build in the 600-700 Dollar range.

Sorry about that
Dominic
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Before I start suggesting parts for you, let me ge this straight. You want a new PC for 600-700 bucks, as in EVERYTHING (the whole tower)? $700 should be pretty good for a moderate gaming machine. I'll do my best, and if I don't post again today don't worry, I will tomorrow.
 
since you want to upgrade later , and start basic .. I suggest putting a good amount on a high quality motherboard with a lot of features to upgrade later on.

for the AMD route . .
AM2 socket
590 chipset
DDR2

Intel
Socket 775
975i chipset
DDR2
start off with a low end Pent. D , and later upgrade to core2duo .

have you look into the building a budget core2duo for under $1000 thread?

Also try to buy case and PSU seperate . that turbolink PSU doesn't look any good.
 
Advice taken on case and PSU. How about a suggestion on a Motherboard for the pentium. And what would be the down fall of running my old hard drive. other than a slight loss in speed. I don't mind using my old case and such for the build and put my money where it would be more effective such as a good Mother Board. I can always upgrade the rest later as you said.

Update how about this Processor looks like a good deal for and open box

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819116013R


Thanks Dominic
 
I could not open that link. May be a network issue on my end. I recently built a new PC with stuff I bought off Ebay. If you do your research you can do well there. I haven't totalled up what I spent yet though. I would stay away from ECS mobos. That is what I got and it was very difficult to get going. Make sure that your new mobo and sata drive are both generation 2 and not mixed. I would google your items and look to see what if any problems people have had.( I didn't do this and I wished I had) I ended up with 2 512mb RAM sticks I can't use now because the were not compatable with my mobo eventhough the memory maker said they were. Go with a good PCI setup for the graphics card. 8x at least. Stay away from the AGP stuff, it is on it's way out.
 
Here is my recomendation for a system in the price range that you were looking. These were all located at tigerdirect.com You may even be able to shop somwhere such as newegg or pricewatch and save a few bucks.

To answer your question about your old harddrive. You posted that it was 180g 7200rpm. I would continue to run it. It won't even slow you down if it has 8mb cache.


MBM-A8N5X-4000 :: Asus A8N5X-GR NVIDIA Socket 939 ATX Motherboard and an AMD Athlon 64 4000+ 2.40GHz OEM Processor (3.45 lbs)
$229.99 $229.99

C13-2920 :: Corsair Value Select 1024MB PC3200 DDR 400MHz Memory (0.5 lbs)
In Stock $94.99 $94.99

P725-3052 :: Pioneer DVR-111DBK / 16x8x16x DVD+RW / 16x6x16x DVD-RW / 8x DVD+R DL / 40x32x40x CD-RW / Black/ OEM DVD Burner with Software (2.65 lbs)
In Stock $39.99 $39.99

S457-1088 :: Masscool / Socket 754/939 / AMD Athlon 64 / Ball Bearing / Copper Base / CPU Cooling Fan (2 lbs)
In Stock $24.99 $24.99

P56-7826 :: PNY GeForce 7300 GT / 256MB GDDR2 / SLI / PCI Express / DVI / VGA / HDTV / Video Card (1.4 lbs)
In Stock $84.99 $84.99

If you use the Case and P/S that you put in your previous post for 99.00 this would put you at a total of 573.95 plus shipping to build your tower. And in my opinion I think you will be much happier with this than the Intel.
 
I'd agree with fender, but I would recommend that you upgrade to a 7600GT. I just got one and is about hits the sweet spot for price/performance.
 
Boogityboo04 said:
I'd agree with fender, but I would recommend that you upgrade to a 7600GT. I just got one and is about hits the sweet spot for price/performance.
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The GeForce 7900GS is not much more and outperforms the 7600GT. The ATI Radeon X800-series (XT,GTO X850XT, X850XT PE) is also good for modern games on medium/high settings depending on your setup.
 
Here are two different builds. One is Intel One is Amd. Let me know what you think. These are both right in the price range I would like to see.

Both would use these parts:

Xion Case 64.99
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16811208004
ePOWER Power Supply 52.99
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16817101021
Seagate Barracuda 250GB 79.99
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16822148144
LG Black 18X DVD+R 29.99
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16827136103
PNY GeForce 7600GS 89.99
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16814133192


Amd setup:

AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ 2.0Ghz 135.00
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16819103735
ABIT KN9 73.99
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16813127010
CORSAIR ValueSelect 1GB DDR2 533
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16820145526

Total Cost: 632.93


Intel Setup:

Intel Pentium D 820 Smithfield 2.8GHz
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16819116213
GIGABYTE GA-965G-DS3 LGA
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16813128018
CORSAIR XMS2 1GB 240-Pin DDR2
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16820145566

Total Cost: 672.93

Well there you go any input and suggestions will be greatly appreciated. And which one would you go with.

Thanks Dominic
 
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