Weekend tech reading: 7" Amazon Kindle Tablet coming for $250

By Matthew · 9 replies
Sep 4, 2011
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  1. Amazon's Kindle Tablet is very real. I've seen it, played with it It's called simply the "Amazon Kindle". But it’s not like any Kindle you've seen before. It displays content in…

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  2. ihaveaname

    ihaveaname TS Enthusiast Posts: 107

    "Ubisoft has "every right" to use DRM to protect PC games...."

    I hate to say it, but I sort of agree with this guy. They do have every right to do what they are doing. Of course, we also have every right not to buy their product, which is how it's supposed to work. I have to admit I do get a little annoyed when people start talking about gamers being 'oppressed' and 'treated with disrespect' or the like. If you don't like it, don't buy it. It's not as if Ubisoft has a total monopoly of the games market; there are alternatives, you know....
  3. Xclusiveitalian

    Xclusiveitalian TS Evangelist Posts: 714   +75

    I'v always been a PC guy, and a big PC gamer and until mac opens up to third part software and gaming, they won't take majority of the market. Selling $500 PC for $1000 just because of the OS is not justified. My gf bought a mac and the price of fixing even cheap problems is expensive. The price for being different is not worth it.
  4. lawfer

    lawfer TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,270   +91

    I think you got it twisted, mate.

    People don't disagree with Ubisoft's business practices regarding their oppressive DRM, just because they believe Ubisoft doesn't have the right to protect their property. People disagree because of the major implications such protection causes to legitimate buyers. Regardless of right, when a company's actions causes such collateral damage to paying customers, its rights become irrelevant to the issue.

    The reason people rightfully complain, is because some do happen to enjoy their products, and hate to be treated like petty thieves who are just getting a break.

    Christofer Sundberg--founder of Avalanche Studios--once said, that buying an Ubisoft game (he didn't explicitly mention Ubisoft; he meant its type of DRM) is exactly as if Ubisoft were telling legitimate customers: "Thank you for buying our game, we trust you as far as we can throw you."
  5. gwailo247

    gwailo247 TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,010   +18

    Yeah, things are not cool. Software is one of the few consumer products that you have no ability to return (because the assumption is of course that you copied/installed the program already and just want to use it for free.

    Buy a game that your computer cannot handle? Too bad for you.
    Buy a game which isn't finished and crashes all the time? Too bad for you.

    There is absolutely no consumer protection when it comes to computer software, and on top of it all, we're treated like criminals.

    And I will say this every effing time I can, MW2 had a BILLION DOLLARS in sales. No movie, record or book ever had such sales, but they still complain about piracy.
  6. TomSEA

    TomSEA TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,718   +860

    I completely understand Ubisoft's stance on their DRM. Piracy levels really are insane. Just look at what happened when the original Crysis came out and there were EIGHT MILLION illegal downloads in the first week. I don't begrudge developers trying to protect their profits. And think the fools who illegally download games believing they're doing no harm are frankly, simpletons who are collectively killing PC gaming. And the proof is in all the stupid console ports we've been experiencing lately. No publisher will put out a PC game any longer without the sales protection of console sales.

    BUT...what Ubisoft is doing is beyond protection. I refuse to buy Ubisoft products any longer because they've gone beyond what I would consider reasonable protection and have literally broken their products for users with their off-the-charts invasive DRM.

    Somewhere there has to be a middle ground.
  7. Darkshadoe

    Darkshadoe TS Guru Posts: 571   +113

    "And I will say this every effing time I can, MW2 had a BILLION DOLLARS in sales. No movie, record or book ever had such sales, but they still complain about piracy."

    Exactly. Piracy is NOT the problem software makers make it out to be.
  8. Arris

    Arris TS Evangelist Posts: 4,730   +379

    To be honest you will probably find that the large majority of pirates aren't going to suddenly run out and buy a game just because it has some anti piracy system that means they can't pirate it. They'll probably just play something else that they can break and play for free. I don't actually think that the DRM is going to recover "lost sales", the only people being penalized by these systems are the paying customers.
  9. Burty117

    Burty117 TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 3,147   +915

    Agreed, I have a very stubborn friend who hates paying for pretty much anything (I cannot wait for the day he gets caught) anyway I was talking to him and if a game or film or even music isn't able to be downloaded from some Bit torrent site then he simply doesn't care and finds something else, he won't run out and buy it.

    I guess in a way, the only way to stop people like would be to lock everything ever made with DRM before reality hits them.

    But for people like you and me, who are willing to pay, should not have to go through so many hoops in order to use the product we paid for! its just plain wrong.
  10. Nook Color Android-based tablet/eReader from Barnes & Noble has been on the market for over a year and sold millions of units at $250. Gives Flash, apps, videos, color magazines and ebooks with video inserts, and the best anti-glare coated screen on the market. Technology "giant" Amazon is finally catching up with the book store company by copying their device.

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