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Weekend tech reading: The cost of a DIY PC vs. a new Mac Pro, the Oculus Rift gets more love

By Matthew · 9 replies
Dec 29, 2013
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  1. Apple launched their new Mac Pro (aka the trashbin, bazooka tube, water boiler, etc.). And while it’s impressive how Apple's "highly modded PC" is able to meet thermal and power requirements in such a tiny size, all of this normally...

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  2. The article covering the Apple trash can is flawed. Yes to duplicate the Apple trash can would cost more. However, you can build a more powerful system for much less. I will say however, that it is one of the most reasonably priced Apple products. I wouldn't give buyers too much grief over it.
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  3. ikesmasher

    ikesmasher TS Evangelist Posts: 3,050   +1,384

    Oculus rift + haptic glives + treadmill/sphere = true virtual reality
  4. captaincranky

    captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 14,710   +3,854

    You have to keep in mind, there is a huge markup built into those "Firepro" video cards. You really can't competitively shop them, as you have to be one of an elite few dealers that can afford to stock them. You also have to be an elite customer to need, or be able to afford them.

    When you get that far up the line into strictly luxury products, any price pressure dissipates.

    It's pretty much a given that you can also buy a low end machine for less than you can build one. Manufacturers get volume discounts an individual can't touch, and they apply price pressure to one another on the final product.

    As far as this Apple nonsense goes, I would never, ever, be inclined to purchase a computer in that price range without universal PnP.

    If your "trashcan" breaks on you, you might have to send it back to Foxconn for a new "lid" or something.

    (BTW, I think those Firepro" video cards have lifetime, call me up anytime of the day or night, phone support. Whatever they have, it's tailored to the needs of a pro who, "needed his project done the day before yesterday").
    Last edited: Dec 29, 2013
  5. tonylukac

    tonylukac TS Evangelist Posts: 1,376   +72

    The problem with all these backdoors (NSA) is that other people get a hold of them. I swear certain little countries have taken an action from reading my facebook page. I make all my posts public, tho. Losers following a loser.
  6. VitalyT

    VitalyT Russ-Puss Posts: 4,369   +2,892

    About the DIY for the new Mac Pro...

    It sounds like another article sponsored by Apple... What they are trying to re-create just doesn't make any sense. Why on earth overpay a fortune for specific components when the re is a much cheaper and better-performing alternative?

    1. Dual AMD W9000 is the biggest waste of money, it costs 2.5 times more than 2 x NVidia Titans, which is way better in everything. But nVidia 780 Ti is the best all around choice, and about 3.5 times cheaper.

    2. A desktop today for which 32GB of RAM isn't enough, is likely not to be saved with just 64GB. In reality, most professionals find 16GB of RAM is quite sufficient today for any work. Just another waste of memory. Remember - this is not a server, for crisake...!

    3. A pair of Samsung 840 Pro or Evo in RAID 0 will give you about the same performance, at half the price.

    The only expensive thing might be the mobo for Xeons, if you really need so many cores, but very few people do. In fact, it is becoming more and more irrelevant, because the CUDA platform in your dual nVidia 780 or Titan is way more powerful a tool to use.
  7. "trashbin, bazooka tube, water boiler"??? My God, someone is REALLY afraid of Apple. So much trolling.
  8. ikesmasher

    ikesmasher TS Evangelist Posts: 3,050   +1,384

    Welp thats what it looks like. Regardless of whether or not your an apple fan. It looks like a bloody trashcan. What do you think it looks like? A can of axe? A snowglobe? a normal PC?
  9. Gars

    Gars TS Booster Posts: 240

    CUDA? where you was last 1 year?
    didn't OpenCL and GNC rings any bell to you?
    especially "Setting the Scene" and "Graphics Core Next"
    DiY MacPro article imo is sponsored and its pure show off - how many years this hardware will last (with everyday pro heavy duty)? If I judge with my G3 Blue & White - it can last forever. But I dont think so :)
    Anyway, it will be obsolete in 3-4 years in every aspect.

    and ofc, the Captain said it very well
  10. Camikazi

    Camikazi TS Evangelist Posts: 978   +324

    This is a workstation, the FirePros are there for a reason because they can do things that normal cards can't. As for the RAM, well when you are editing HUGE movies or rendering gigantic scenes the RAM will be used. I don't like Apple but these parts are picked with 3D modeling and 4k video editing in mind not gaming or normal things.

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