First, the top-end stuff would really be neat, but features come at a price, so
most commercial routers are eliminated.

review this post for some ideas.

Personally, I've been using a Netgear 4-port for several years and it's been
a faithful servant

Don't get confused re router vs switch/hub. The router is at the top of the list.
A switch(preferred) or hub can then be attached to the router to make more
connections available.

 

i know about router/switch difference in regards to osi model and stuff, though i just down know the models and all their wireless gimbo crap. i actually bought now a router from a sale for 15quid , a DLink DSL-G604T and although not the best, i was very happy with the price. One thing though interesting is that i forgot i havent got bloody adsl, i have bloody cable. so my question is if there is a way to convert the routers port from standard dsl/telephone socket to ethernet??? i know its not possible, i just hope for some marvelous genious to find a new way to do this, like eject the socket, and convert the analogue singal to digital for me cable
also i dont like the idea of having to use the router only as a switch, and sharing connections in that way, i wanted a router to have internet without running a server pc dedicated all the time for this. i could return the dlink and get my money back, but getting to town will setme back 5-10 quid, so its almost relactant or money down the drain as the shop hasnt got something else .....

any advice though for router/switch still much appreciated

thanks

 

If you are planning to become CCNA you dont need to practice on a real Cisco router; instead there are cool simulation programs on the market that are basically a Cisco interface, but you can go nuts and have 5 - 10 cisco routers configured!
Trust me, for the money you will waste on a Cisco it is really not worth it. Simulation is the way to go ... :grinthumb

 

Hi,

i would prefer still to train using some real hardware. in my humble opinion nothing beats real action grinthumb "getting down and dirty" ). either way i already have routersim, boson netsim v5 and planning to get network visualiser aswell
anyhow.
i found on ebay a cheap cisco router, rather old model but for 10£ i cant complain. its an Cisco 1603 router, with 4mb of flash card mem. dunno the actual ios version but i think its a bargain, ah i dont think there is a card installed on it. Is this worth it? i believe its a 10mbit port to connect to the switch but then again i dunno jack sh*t about cisco producs, so any advice much appreciated. also what switch could i use with this router, as i need to connect 3-4 computers to it, all with atleast 100mbit conn to the switch.
Can anyone advice please??? thanks

aahhh forgot, i've found the 1720 (20£), and 1721(30-50£), and 1750 (70£+ a bit tooo expensive at the moment)

any advice much appreciated.

thanks

 

the nics speed is obviously irrelevant to learning the how-to for
Cisco

however, network 101: the backbone should have more thruput than the down-links,
so your router+switches should exceed or match that of any system nic.

you would normally not need a switch at all but only when all ports on the router
are already in use. if that were to occur, divide the network evenly and place
a switch into both halves and your systems into the switches.

as a switch is not configurable -- brand name is irrelevant

 

hello and thanks for the reply.
3 nics from the systems are 10/100, and main system has a gigabit port also. however i do not care for that at this stage. I plan to use them all at 100Mbit , therefore i wanted to have a switch capable of this, eg 4 ports of 100Mbit (with a minimum of 8, so when required to plug other system to have spare, or on lan party .
The switch then connect to the cisco router with i guess an rj45, as i am not yet sure about that serial, console and other ports that cisco routers have. The wan port would the connect to the cable modem, operating at 4mbit, therefore i thought that i do not require more than 10mbit on the router side, not for other reason, as would ideally preffer a 100mbit. Would that decrease the performace?
anyhow.

cable modem (rj45) ---> router (lan port 10/100Mbit) ---> switch (atleast4 ports 100mbit) ----> pc's nic (100Mbit)

if i have got something wrong do let me know. anyhow

thanks again

 

you got it :giddy:

you can also:

Code:

modem ---> router --> switch ---> (4) pc's nic 
               +
               +----- (3) other pcs

all PCs getting DHCP from the same router

 

but why dynamic??? is there any benefit to this, i mean most of the time the systems are gonna be hard wired to their position for ages to come, once in a will my mate my bring a laptop and i would allocate an ip on the fly, or have one already set.

what bogles me though is what you said earlier, that the backbone has to have more throughoutput, which would be nice, but i dont think is the case with the equipment i will get, or plan to get.

also if this scenario is consider good? are the router 1603, and 1720, 1721, 1750 any good??? they start from about 10£ and go way up to 200£. i would prefer something easy on the pocket but have most features of the cisco ios and commands so i can experiment and pracrice a little,.

anyhow

thanks again

 

dynamic(DHCP) makes the network admin simple. each system
configures itself and you don't need to keep records of all the settings. :giddy:

it's not thruput you impact but rather the reduction of contention and error recovery. If all NICs are 10/100, then that will be fine. Just don't allow a downstream device to have more bandwidth than any upstream device.

let your pocket book make the choice -- r

 

hi all again.

ok basically i found a relative cheap router, the cisco 2500 series models, which seem decent enough to start with. however i have one main important question as i dont get that much info in regards to them with manuals and stuff.

these routers are non modular, hence they have only a few slots on the back, like 3 pair of what looks to be an ethernet rj45 socket that say (aux, console, ???). also there are three pairs of what seems like serial 1, serial 2 and aux.
can someone please give me some points to what each port connects to, like i would imagine my cable modem to connect with the rj45 aux??? but where would the switch connect to?
Any advice on this much appreciated. also i found the series 2600 but they are a bit too expensive at the moment, over 100£ but can be expanded with cards which would be nice. either way, i still am on basic learning with them so the advice on them would be great.

like if i get the 2500 series, can i connect 2-3 pcs? on their own somehow or having a switch is a necessity? does the cable modem with ethernet rj45 cable connect directly to this router??? where each port connects too ?

anyhow

thank you

 

>the cisco 2500 series models ... can I ....

have you tried google.com for a manual for the device?

 

well yes, but i was wondering if one could give me a hint or two in the form of the setup i want to build (modem rj45 --> router --> switch -- pc) or (modem rj35 --> router --> pcs....)
like what would connect to what on these routers

serial 1 --connects to .. some device
serial 2 --connects to .. some other device
aux --.........
console--..........

i dont undestand yet how everything connect to one another, more used to el cheapo routers like linksys, netgear....

anyhow.

thanks

 

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