Which is your favorite PC component manufacturer?

[lukart]

Had amazing mobos from Asrock in builds I did for myself and clients..
Definitely a good brand that offers excellent value for money.

 

[nimd4]

Asrock

And what motherboard, RAM, or whatever is "bad" today... It all depends on the model, what components will they use at what time. One month, a company will insulate their condensators in a certain way and we get something excellent - and the next month another will move their production to whatever nano-meter tech, which works really well. It's all relative.

 

[bluto 2050]

I wouldn't have a Foxconn motherboard, if someone paid me to.

Don't know about Foxconn PC mainboards , the ones at Newegg look like low budget models so that could go either way depending on the variables but Foxconn is certainly capable of making premium products thier client list includes tier one brands in consumer electronics ,Andoid phones , iPhones ,PDP ,Sony TV, X box and Sony game consoles and tier one brand assy line PC's .


I've seen Foxconn boards in some tier one brand TV's .

Foxconn is probably a mixed bag quality wise depending in the product /brand/spec. ...but they are talking about reviving the Sharp TV brand in the Americas and maybe EU ( instead of just a licenced brand like now ) since they mostly own the advanced Sharp TV panel fabs now . That could be interesting ,maybe not Sony XBR or Samsung SUHD but interesting and maybe at volume given thier production capacity .

 

[captaincranky]

Don't know about Foxconn PC mainboards , the ones at Newegg look like low budget models so that could go either way depending on the variables but Foxconn is certainly capable of making premium products thier client list includes tier one brands in consumer electronics ,Andoid phones , iPhones ,PDP ,Sony TV, X box and Sony game consoles and tier one brand assy line PC's ..

AFAIK, Foxconn was the OEM for all of Intel's main boards for years. The boards were reference standard, and mostly centered around mainstream PCs and users, with some exceptions in Intel's "Extreme Series". Again AFAIK, reliability was never an issue. Intel's boards never gained much traction with "power users", as their BIOS' were very much locked down against overclocking and whatnot.

The primarily OEM manufacturers, Foxconn and Funai, likely account for about half of all the consumer electronics sold today.

(That could use some fact checking, as "50%"" is naught but an educated guess).

 

[bluto 2050]

AFAIK, Foxconn was the OEM for all of Intel's main boards for years. The boards were reference standard, and mostly centered around mainstream PCs and users, with some exceptions in Intel's "Extreme Series". Again AFAIK, reliability was never an issue. Intel's boards never gained much traction with "power users", as their BIOS' were very much locked down against overclocking and whatnot.

The primarily OEM manufacturers, Foxconn and Funai, likely account for about half of all the consumer electronics sold today.

(That could use some fact checking, as "50%"" is naught but an educated guess).

That sounds plausible outside of consumer electronics. Funai Electronics ( Funai Electric JP.) is not as big as it used to be in C.E. they are a brand licence owner (or prior brand owner ) in a lot of cases now as opposed to past years I.e, Magnavox ,Emerson, Kodak and others they recently sold to PRC OEM mfr.

I belive Funai still mfr. Sanyo products .

I belive Funai is the current mfr. for Phillips TV in NA. apart and distinct from the EU Phillips TV product (who buys USA Philips TV's outside of furniture rental stores ? ) . Funai has been divesting consumer electronics assets like most of the big Japanese companies lately .

I've read in credible business pages that Foxconn is China's largest net exporter and 40% of the world's consumer electronics volume and maybe that presumably includes PC's .

Check out Foxconn City, PRC on the web it really is big with over 400K employees and that is only part of thier global asset footprint albeit the biggest one . ☺

 

[captaincranky]

That sounds plausible outside of consumer electronics. Funai Electronics ( Funai Electric JP.) is not as big as it used to be in C.E. they are a brand licence owner (or prior brand owner ) in a lot of cases now as opposed to past years I.e, Magnavox ,Emerson, Kodak and others they recently sold to PRC OEM mfr.

Believe it or not, Funai was peddling DVD players in Walmart under its own name.

I had my two government $20.00 off (?) coupons for the analog to digital TV converter boxes. So, I took the first one to Circuit City and bought a "Zenith" model. Then, thinking I'd be slick and get a different brand, (I was desperately hoping the remote controls wouldn't foul one another). When I got to Best Buy, I was treated to a "Dynex" box, identical in every respect to the "Zenith". Yep, all BB's "Dynex" product was Funai. BB used to stock two house brands of Flat screen TVs. "Dynex" (Funai), and their ostensibly more luxurious, "Insignia" step up models. Well, I have one of each marque, and wouldn't you know it, either remote control will work either set. So, I suppose "Insignia", is the shiny plastic Funai, while the "Dynex" Funai is more of a matte finish. (I didn't run both UL approval numbers yet, I probably should. Or, I could plug the Insignia into my desktop and let the video card sort out who made the damned thing.

I belive Funai still mfr. Sanyo products.

Once upon a time I used to sell a bunch of their damned cassette decks. (They were sort of a holiday "loss leader"). They'd all come back with "one dead channel" within a few months. I found out from an electronics tech friend of mine, they had two plug in Dolby B boards, which would corrode and kill the channel of its choice. That actually worked out pretty well, since we could fix them in store, while the customer waited.

I belive Funai is the current mfr. for Phillips TV in NA. apart and distinct from the EU Phillips TV product (who buys USA Philips TV's outside of furniture rental stores ? ) . Funai has been divesting consumer electronics assets like most of the big Japanese companies lately .

Hey, where else are you going to finance a superb TV like a Philips, at a measly 35 to 45% interest rate?

I've read in credible business pages that Foxconn is China's largest net exporter and 40% of the world's consumer electronics volume and maybe that presumably includes PC's .

I wouldn't doubt that one bit.

Check out Foxconn City, PRC on the web it really is big with over 400K employees and that is only part of thier global asset footprint albeit the biggest one . ☺

Hey, now you have me wondering if you can see the suicide nets around the dormitories from outer space...

FWIW, I don't have a bit of trouble with either of those TVs. Certainly nothing like the problems which have been reported with the "name brand" Samsung, (maybe Toshiba). More fact checking necessary, I suppose..

 

[bluto 2050]

captaincranky

That sounds plausible outside of consumer electronics. Funai Electronics ( Funai Electric JP.) is not as big as it used to be in C.E. they are a brand licence owner (or prior brand owner ) in a lot of cases now as opposed to past years I.e, Magnavox ,Emerson, Kodak and others they recently sold to PRC OEM mfr.

I had my two government $20.00 off (?) coupons for the analog to digital TV converter boxes. So, I took the first one to Circuit City and bought a "Zenith" model. Then, thinking I'd be slick and get a different brand, (I was desperately hoping the remote controls wouldn't foul one another). When I got to Best Buy, I was treated to a "Dynex" box, identical in every respect to the "Zenith". Yep, all BB's "Dynex" product was Funai. BB used to stock two house brands of Flat screen TVs. "Dynex" (Funai), and their ostensibly more luxurious, "Insignia" step up models.



Well, I have one of each marque, and wouldn't you know it, either remote control will work either set. So, I suppose "Insignia", is the shiny plastic Funai, while the "Dynex" Funai is more of a matte finish. (I didn't run both UL approval numbers yet, I probably should. Or, I could plug the Insignia into my desktop and let the video card sort out who made the damned thing.

Hisense has been making Dynex Insignia TV since maybe late 2010 or sometinme in 2011 and they are substantially better than before that . I had a late 2009 Insignia set and it wasn't all that but it was cheap . I had to recap the PSU board in 2012 also .

The formulation for a lot of electrolytic capacitor values was wrong up until ~ 2010 or so and Samsungs was no worse than anybody else's, they just moved the most product and were targets for the class action tort lawyers and consumerists because of the larger numerosity of product in the field which increased the lawyers part of the settlements a lot of PC mainboards failed also and that's a good argument for the solid caps on my new PC mainboard . ....I just put a new mainboard in a 2010 HP PC because of failed wet lytic caps ..

I replaced that Insignia with a real decent 2012 1080p Toshiba made by Compal in the PRC and then a better and bigger 2013 1080p Sony Bravia ( Sony /Foxconn) and again with this 2015 4K Sony XBR that I will be keeping at least 4 years untill the warranty runs out and depending if I get the jones for something else ( likely Sony ) by then but this thing is way good and far ahead of anthing else except a few 2016 sets you can buy now and maybe a few 2015 sets .

The legendary 64f500 1080p Samsung Plasma out front is Samsung ROK. .

Samsung's better sets are Samsung in ROK and some of the bottom feeders may be OEM made sets to Samsung design but I'm not sure .

Zenith brand was purchased by the ROK Lucky Goldstar ( LG ) cabal and they still own it aka ...LG .

The ATSC to NTSC TV converter boxes of each brand ( Dynex and Zenith ) may have been outsourced to Compal ,Wistron , Amtran, AOC or any number of PRC OEM white box manufacturers and maybe the same one , the Funai box may have been a Funi product .

OTOH its not unusual even for different whitebox device manufactures to have the same remote codes they might be using the same SoC and or TV CPU and reference drivers .. Sometimes you can pull up two or three brand TV setting menu skins in a white box made TV service menu and they ofc. use all the same remote codes for that device. ☺

Dynex /Insignia TV's used to be made by various PRC white box OEM's and are now made by Hisense .

Hisense owns the Sharp TV brand ,manufacturing assets and sales in the Americas now and also manufactures and markets Sharp and Hisense TV brands in the Americas along with the Best Buy exclusive Sharp TV product and they may have have a similar arrangement with Toshiba /Best buy exclusive product unless Toshiba or more likely Best Buy is still just outsourcing that to Compal or Hisense .

RCA TV was manufactured and marketed here by TCL in PRC for a long time ,brand licenced by Technicolor , (junk) now it is all licenced by ON corp in ROK and maybe a white box OEM mfr. product but ( much better.)and still licenced by Technicolor . VOX intl. has the RCA consumer products licence from Tecnicolor outside of TV set product .

Don't look for accurate EDIE info on a TV in your PC whereas PC monitors are a little better about that . Your TV's may come up a generic 1080p TV's or whatever or maybe just the brand name ,digital TV and resolution.

On TV's your EDIE won't usually give anthing beyond a brand name - HDTV and what it 'thinks' the resolution is .

My brand new HP PC with an Intel Core i5 HD 4600 IGPU can output 4K over HDMI and it thinks my 2015 4K HDR 55" Sony XBR TV - extended screen and TV in here is a 1080p Sony digital TV and nothing beyond that and set the resolution accordingly. I had to go in and manually re set it to 2160p /30 for 4K video content .and native panel resolution although it's a 2160p -120 HZ panel but you can't get that on single HDMI 2.0a and 4K movies .UHD Blue rRy and 4K videos and 4K IPTV are 24p /30p anyway.

 

[bluto 2050]

Check out Foxconn City, PRC on the web it really is big with over 400K employees and that is only part of thier global asset footprint albeit the biggest one . ☺
https://www.techspot.com/community/goto/post?id=1566249#post-1566249

captaincranky

Hey, now you have me wondering if you can see the suicide nets around the dormitories from outer space...

Probably depends on who's looking and with what devices.
OTOH :

Although the number of workplace suicides at the company in 2010 was large in absolute terms, the rate is low when compared to the rest of China. (The country has a high suicide rate with over 20 deaths per 100,000 persons) In 2010, the worst year for workplace suicides at Foxconn with a total of 14 deaths, its employee count was a reported 930,000 people.

- Wikipedia-[/quote]

When you consider the alternatives for many poor rural PRC migrants working at Foxconn like watching oxen mate in the rice paddies and abject poverty and also consider the dramatic progress the PRC has made in 30 years and put it against our slavery period then the terrible industrial revolution working conditions up to ~ early and pre war 20th century and historical indentured servitude immigration and migrant agricultural workers and shadow human trafficking and our unfortunate inner cities like Detroit ,Chicago and Baltimore and so on .....................

 

[captaincranky]

Hisense has been making Dynex Insignia TV since maybe late 2010 or sometinme in 2011 and they are substantially better than before that . I had a late 2009 Insignia set and it wasn't all that but it was cheap . I had to recap the PSU board in 2012 also .

Well, my Dynex is over 5 years of age, it was made by Funai, and one of my videos cards picked it out as such. As I got bigger and bigger TVs, the 37" Dynex got pushed aside. It's in my bedroom, and admittedly gets fairly limited usage. Never had a bit of trouble with it, and it has a beautiful picture. Knock wood, as the saying goes.

The formulation for a lot of electrolytic capacitor values was wrong up until ~ 2010 or so and Samsungs was no worse than anybody else's, they just moved the most product and were targets for the class action tort lawyers and consumerists because of the larger numerosity of product in the field which increased the lawyers part of the settlements a lot of PC mainboards failed also and that's a good argument for the solid caps on my new PC mainboard . ....I just put a new mainboard in a 2010 HP PC because of failed wet lytic caps ..

Failed caps was a huge issue, (supposedly), with ancient eMachines. Although most of their Intel based output were Celeron equipped, I have the oddball T-5026, with a 519 3.06Ghz P-4. Now, that PC is still going strong. Considering I bought it for myself Valentine's Day 2005, quite an achievement. It has an "Intel 915GAG" board, which was obviously made to order, since it lacks the PCI-E socket. It's got the holes for one, but no socket! eMachines PSUs were notorious for blowing up, and I think Gateway didn't want to push their luck by allowing a video card to be installed. (Their 250 watt PSUs usually took out the board when they blew. Mine had a 300 watter, which did quit, but spared the mobo).

In any event, the board came with a 100 or so page genuine Intel "Augsburg", PDF instruction book. Which brings me back to Foxconn's reliability and quality. They likely built the board, and the board has worn like iron

Bluto, I've come to expect, and enjoy your extended, "stream of consciousness tech rants". But my god man, would using a comma once in a while be too much to ask...? Here's a few spares: ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, should the mood ever strike. LOL with you, CC!

BTW, the suicide rate in China stuff was excellent.

Believe it or not Suzuki Automotive ECM's had capacitor leaking problems up until 1996. Mercifully, I have a '97 Kick. So far, so good.

 

[bluto 2050]

Well, my Dynex is over 5 years of age, it was made by Funai,

Bluto, I've come to expect, and enjoy your extended, "stream of consciousness tech rants". But my god man, would using a comma once in a while be too much to ask...? Here's a few spares: ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, should the mood ever strike. LOL with you, CC!

BTW, the suicide rate in China stuff was excellent.

Believe it or not Suzuki Automotive ECM's had capacitor leaking problems up until 1996. Mercifully, I have a '97 Kick. So far, so good.

I belive Dynex/Insignia TV's used a few OEM's concurrently before 2010-2011 and Funi was probably good luck of the draw on your Dynex TV then and they are probably not bad for the money today .

On the white box sets that may have several brands and cabinets on the outside but basically the same insides I belive the manufacturer rather than the brand on the outside may be in the EDIE data depending on the variables but more likely BB Dynex - Insignia has /had exclusive OEM product and design input at thier scale from the various manufacturers and the EDIE data may be also be who made it and not Dynex or Insignia or generic depending on the set . I've had some TV sets come up with the brand and resolution and others just say 1080p or 720p digital TV .

Consumer device Paper and Wet lytic caps were a problem for a long time going back to the marconi days but more recently on PC and TV boards until the formulation was changed mostly on PRC and ROK made capacitors I think tier one Japan suppliers like Nichicon,Panasonic and Rubycon were ahead of the curve on those .

 

[xLegendary]

Being overclocking my hat goes off to Asrock. Extremely good motherboards and very reliable.
Had so much fun with their stuff. Get a decent cooler, unlocked CPU and one of their boards and done, ready to push it to the limit.