I'm going to post this originally in the Windows forum, and move it to Meeting Spot. With a redirect staying in Windows for a while. Maybe it is an abuse of my mod privs, but if another mod or staff (or member - just PM a mod or staff) has a problem with it, they can remove the redirect. A while back I created this thread: https://www.techspot.com/community/...-disk-usage-performance-lag-windows-8.190289/ Now, when I created it, I thought perhaps it had been something simple I was overlooking. I hadn't used AHCI before, and therefore I was unsure if I had a BIOS setting wrong or if it was something in Windows itself. Maybe I still needed a driver that 8 didn't have? I also had staunchly defended Windows 8 in the Windows 8 discussion thread I also created, when the Consumer Preview came out: https://www.techspot.com/community/topics/windows-8-discussion.178167/ I did this because I really believed it was a good OS. I had it running on a pretty old Pentium 4, 2.4Ghz with a gig of RAM. It was 'snappy' and the new features were cool. Last night, I finally decided to tackle a problem I didn't bring here. I didn't bring it here because at first I thought it was something pretty minor that I'd take care of myself. Simply put, Windows wasn't updating anymore. I did a ton of googling, and had tried system restore, as well as booting from the Windows 8 dvd and trying a restore that way, as well as a complete refresh from a backup I had created. Nothing worked, restores failed because they couldn't access a file and blamed it on AV. Well I had disabled AV last night after it said that just to remove that problem (and also booting from 8 dvd totally bypasses the installed OS). I was logging what I was doing, so I could come here and make a post with details on what I'd done. But I eventually resigned that it was going to meet the same fate as the HD Lag post. I deleted the 8 partition today, from the Windows 7 setup, and installed 7. Spent a couple hours updating and installing software I use, and now I'm back to good with Windows 7. This also confirmed that my HD Lag issue is completely Windows 8 related (in case you didn't believe my google links showing others with the same problem, or Mict saying he had it too). Here is a screenshot of me transferring from one of my internal HDs to my OS drive (which was exactly how I'd replicate the problem in Windows 8). For those of you unfamiliar with my HD Lag thread, this is 10x the transfer speed I was seeing between the same hardware in Windows 8. I like a lot of things about Windows 8. But it made itself as unlikeable to me as it possibly could by making things crawl to an almost halt when disk activity was involved, and by preventing me from updating it. Could I have eventually solved the updating problem? maybe... but I don't think I could outside of such a reinstall that it would require re-activation, and at that point, why continue to fight it? It was a clean install that I had done nothing weird with, it would seem likely to come back again.