Windows 11 Pro users will soon need a Microsoft account during initial setup, latest preview...

[captaincranky]

For people who feel it is a big deal, there are options. MacOS, Linux and maybe a few others.

Windows 7.

 

[wiyosaya]

This latest decision by MS is unfathomable! Come on users, don't bend over for this! If we put up a fight they won't do it. Sure, maybe there are temporary workarounds (not a sure thing), but now is the time for us to push back!

This is crossing a red line.

Agreed. There is absolutely no good reason for M$$$$$ to require an MSA.

Find my device for a desktop?? Come on. WTF!

 

[wiyosaya]

MS is pushing everything into the cloud.. more personal data, logins, bloated stuff. I really dont understand that if you have a succesfull OS, like W7 or W10 was/is, to continue to the same riddle to ever expand or create more people really dont need.

I just need my OS to be a OS, and not the next day come back and have **** changed, lost, end up with a BSOD or completely de-organised because of a pushed update.

You don't know how to use your PC! M$ knows how to use your PC better than you do. /s

And, IMO, that is the bulk of M$'s arrogance. They think they know how to use our PCs better than we do.

 

[wiyosaya]

Normally I'd agree with you but a few things have changed. First and fore most is ease-of-use. Linux has gotten a lot easier to use without the user having to think about it.

100% agree. openSuSE has been exceptionally easy to use for at least five years now. I do use mine as a server, but installation and update is almost trivial by default - even for someone who does not use it as a server. And with updates, they do a far, far, far better job than M$ has ever done. It's been years since I have had any issues with an update.

 

[wiyosaya]

Ir's been over 15 years, but I, "distinctly, kinda, vaguely, almost", remember seeing a paid version of Linux for sale at "CompUSA", (remember them?) for something like $50.00..

"Red Hat" offers a free version, (that I never could get to work), and a commercial version, for money. (Dunno if that's a server -product)

Try openSuSE LEAP

 

[wiyosaya]

Ir's been over 15 years, but I, "distinctly, kinda, vaguely, almost", remember seeing a paid version of Linux for sale at "CompUSA", (remember them?) for something like $50.00..

Absolutely right. That is how I got my start with Linux - it was Red Hat XX something. However, I dropped it at some point for a reason I do not remember, and went to openSuSE I will never go back to RedHat.

 

[waclark]

100% agree. openSuSE has been exceptionally easy to use for at least five years now. I do use mine as a server, but installation and update is almost trivial by default - even for someone who does not use it as a server. And with updates, they do a far, far, far better job than M$ has ever done. It's been years since I have had any issues with an update.

I haven't had an issues with a MS update in years as well. I honestly cannot remember an update resulting in BSOD or even frequent crashes. Applications, on the other hand, have been mostly OK, but occasionally one will go haywire.

Linux is a powerful OS, for those that know how to use it. But, IMHO, it will never take off at the home level until there is one clear distribution. openSuSE works for you, but what if I have Red Hat, Debian, CentOS, Ubuntu or one of the many variations of Linux? They can all be similar but also different. And imagine trying to walk some older, non-technical person through a command line package install.

You're looking at this through the prism of a knowledgeable, technical person. Most home users aren't that, sad to say. That may change over the next 10-20 years as computers become as ubiquitous as microwaves and remote controlled TVs.