Windows 11 reaches 35% market share, but Windows 10 still leads by a wide margin

[VemigoAmigo]

Do you need a car? I only use cars when I need a taxi.

Good for you.

 

[Win7user]

sudo apt update
sudo apt install snapd
sudo snap install mpc-hc --edge

Zoom Player
Go to the Zoom Player community hub (use search engine if you don't know where it is), click install, type your password and voila, installed.

I'll try that, ty.,

 

[LimyG]

With 24H2 Windows 11 is finally worth moving to. I have tested Win10 and Win11 on/off on the same system and Win11 feels snappier now with 24H2.

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[LimyG]

Why do you need a start button? I only use start menu for search.

Do you press actual icons and programs in the start menu to open stuff? I have programs on taskbar and desktop instead.

Wow! You are just sooo coooollll!!!!

 

[VemigoAmigo]

Wow! You are just sooo coooollll!!!!

I know. Poweruser.

 

[LimyG]

I know. Poweruser.

Good reply!

 

[user478318]

I've been sayin it don't know how many times, Windows 10 was a bad OS, Windows 11 has always been a better OS, it's just that people belive in the crap they read online. Linux is good only for old systems that are not supported, not for mainstream use.

 

[user478318]

My work laptop has windows 11 on it and I'm throughly annoyed everytime I have to use it. It feels like a Chromebook only harder to use and slower. Linux Mint on my desktop and personal laptop.

So I'm all for people switching to linux and dropping windows, but I get a concerning question from people looking to switch. It's always, "what should I go with?" Realisticly, pick any popular easy one and daily it for a week. Then spend the next week learning the command line and how Linux likes to work, how to use the command line and how it's files system os structured. Put about 20 solid hours into understanding it and then the distro doesn't really matter. Learning linux feels intimidating because it looks alien and is different, but after about 20 hours of serious effort spread out over a couple weeks, it'll just click one day and you'll never look back. Put the effort in, experience that "AH-HA!" moment for yourself and you'll never want to touch a modern windows machine again.

RIP Windows 7 </3

Dude how old are you!? Haven't you lived enough to see such projects fail!? If Linux gained traction (Mint or whatever) they would fall harder than Ubuntu!! It's just a group of individuals trying to sell out/monetize. Wake up, only organizations like non-profits can make sucess in capitalist world.

 

[yRaz]

Dude how old are you!? Haven't you lived enough to see such projects fail!? If Linux gained traction (Mint or whatever) they would fall harder than Ubuntu!! It's just a group of individuals trying to sell out/monetize. Wake up, only organizations like non-profits can make sucess in capitalist world.

Old enough to have first installed Linux from a CD I ordered out of a magazine

 

[user478318]

Old enough to have first installed Linux from a CD I ordered out of a magazine

Then you should know by now the lack of integrity of these "groups" behind linux distros. We have only RedHat as a serious company that enterprise users prefer, and interestingly they are on a "bad guys linux" list, because their distro isn't free, but of course nothing free will ever work out, support is needed 24/7 and a lot of hard work if a OS plans to take on the world and replace windows. These free linux distros, are leaches seeking to hook some users, gain momentum, then sell-out to the highest bidder, sell your data, implement spyware like Ubuntu had its moment with Amazon

 

[yRaz]

Then you should know by now the lack of integrity of these "groups" behind linux distros. We have only RedHat as a serious company that enterprise users prefer, and interestingly they are on a "bad guys linux" list, because their distro isn't free, but of course nothing free will ever work out, support is needed 24/7 and a lot of hard work if a OS plans to take on the world and replace windows. These free linux distros, are leaches seeking to hook some users, gain momentum, then sell-out to the highest bidder, sell your data, implement spyware like Ubuntu had its moment with Amazon

You have a gross misunderstanding of what these linux distros are, how they're used and who uses them.

 

[LimyG]

Linux isn't the simple alternative to Windows.

Let's be honest. It's good with caveats: The user needs to understand the software and what it does at a technical level. Needs to know how it interacts with drivers and other hardware.
I could go on but, while windows may be a bloated mess it's generally safe with updates on for anyone.

Linux isn't. It's for folks who understand tech and how hardware, software, firmware drivers interact and more.

 

[LimyG]

You have a gross misunderstanding of what these linux distros are, how they're used and who uses them.

I'm not going to take a side on that, but USER478... while perhaps expressing strongly, is at least cautious.

That is important, a long with the things I mentioned in my post above.

 

[LimyG]

Then you should know by now the lack of integrity of these "groups" behind linux distros. We have only RedHat as a serious company that enterprise users prefer, and interestingly they are on a "bad guys linux" list, because their distro isn't free, but of course nothing free will ever work out, support is needed 24/7 and a lot of hard work if a OS plans to take on the world and replace windows. These free linux distros, are leaches seeking to hook some users, gain momentum, then sell-out to the highest bidder, sell your data, implement spyware like Ubuntu had its moment with Amazon

Is it really that bad? Genuine question.
Opinion or fact, or a mixture of both?

 

[user478318]

Is it really that bad? Genuine question.
Opinion or fact, or a mixture of both?

As far as I have heard and read, Debian are the good guys but the development is slow and is always late to support newest hardware and software features, and like I said in the previous post: if something is free and based on volunteers, it is not taking over the world!!

Ubuntu had it's momentum few years ago, but they used this to sell to enterprise and couldn't care less for home users. They are pushing snaps and implemented some amazon bloatware previously for monetization purposes. Their distro is slow and currently the worst option u can go for linux.

Fedora is related with RedHat which is like I said enterprise linux, and it ain't free like everthing thats good. Seems from the comments of advanced linux users who daily drive it, thats extremely unstable with new version coming every 6 months, which is pain in the *** for home user, and serves only as a testing grounds, like a beta for a RedHat.

Zorin is developed by two Ukrainians who moved to England, it is pretty much Ubuntu with a paint over. They pretty much made Zorin Connect and Zorin Themes a two cool features, that connect linux to your phone and the other one allows you to make linux look like Windows11 or MacOS clone. It is cool for fun, for new users to try out linux, but two guys can't maintain a serious OS thats gonna take over the world. Also since the start of war in Ukraine, Zorin users have became a target for russian hackers, making it distro to avoid.

Also popular distros for penetration testing are Parrot and KaliOS, they are not meant for daily driving, only for security experts, and if you scan these ISO images of these distros youre gonna find that some viruses/trojans are bundled within OS themself.

Linux Mint is neutral for now, we will see how they will end up. They are based on Ubuntu and that is very sad, but LMDE is slowly rising up even if it isn't updated as much as their main one. Time will tell if they sell-out

 

[LimyG]

As far as I have heard and read, Debian are the good guys but the development is slow and is always late to support newest hardware and software features, and like I said in the previous post: if something is free and based on volunteers, it is not taking over the world!!

Ubuntu had it's momentum few years ago, but they used this to sell to enterprise and couldn't care less for home users. They are pushing snaps and implemented some amazon bloatware previously for monetization purposes. Their distro is slow and currently the worst option u can go for linux.

Fedora is related with RedHat which is like I said enterprise linux, and it ain't free like everthing thats good. Seems from the comments of advanced linux users who daily drive it, thats extremely unstable with new version coming every 6 months, which is pain in the *** for home user, and serves only as a testing grounds, like a beta for a RedHat.

Zorin is developed by two Ukrainians who moved to England, it is pretty much Ubuntu with a paint over. They pretty much made Zorin Connect and Zorin Themes a two cool features, that connect linux to your phone and the other one allows you to make linux look like Windows11 or MacOS clone. It is cool for fun, for new users to try out linux, but two guys can't maintain a serious OS thats gonna take over the world. Also since the start of war in Ukraine, Zorin users have became a target for russian hackers, making it distro to avoid.

Also popular distros for penetration testing are Parrot and KaliOS, they are not meant for daily driving, only for security experts, and if you scan these ISO images of these distros youre gonna find that some viruses/trojans are bundled within OS themself.

Linux Mint is neutral for now, we will see how they will end up. They are based on Ubuntu and that is very sad, but LMDE is slowly rising up even if it isn't updated as much as their main one. Time will tell if they sell-out

Thanks for the detailed reply, user473818!
Sounds to me you know pretty well about Linux. (I won't be using it anytime soon)

Cheers!!

 

[Mark Fuller]

Linux is the solution to older hardware that won't support upgrade to W11.

 

[Win7user]

Linux is the solution to older hardware that won't support upgrade to W11.

I dual boot Linux Mint on my 13-year-old Acer laptop sporting Window 7 Pro! Works great! And, Firefox is supported on Linux Mint, which is why I did the dual boot in the first place. Although, it's a different world on Linux, than Windows. But, I'm learning.

 

[Mark Fuller]

I dual boot Linux Mint on my 13-year-old Acer laptop sporting Window 7 Pro! Works great! And, Firefox is supported on Linux Mint, which is why I did the dual boot in the first place. Although, it's a different world on Linux, than Windows. But, I'm learning.

Still, if you can follow a menu, all is well. Surfing the web once you're there is no different.

 

[Win7user]

Still, if you can follow a menu, all is well. Surfing the web once you're there is no different.

Yes, of course surging the internet on Linux using Firefox is just like Windows. It's all the other stuff, trying to get programs I want that Linux doesn't have in their little box of programs. The older you get, the harder it is to learn new things. Linux, is tough for me. I can figure things out most of the time, but it takes me longer. The only saving grace for me, I've been using computers a lot since my first computer in 1998. Still, in my opinion and experience, Linux Mint is a different animal, as opposed to a Windows operating system.

 

[Brickwizard]

I have a dual core i3 5gen Intel and it and it struggles to open a web browser or watch YouTube

I have a 2010 lappy with a T series intel cpu 4 gb ram and for normal daily use it works just fine with Mint LMDE6 [ streams live TV and plays U-tube/ DVD's perfectly] check the set-up of your machine., I also had [up to 3 weeks ago] A 20o8 Acer ZG5 with one of the first the single core Atom CPU's it only had 1.5 of ram so it ran Antix, not brilliant with modern hi-def streaming but for what it was designed for worked brilliantly,
so why did I get rid of them? Simple with all the mugs upgrading their machines to feather the nest of Microsoft and machine manufacturers there was a sudden glut of grade A refurbished business machines, I picked up a 5-year-old I5 quad x 2thread per core machine with 32gb ram and NVMe for around a third of the normal price, [oh it now runs Mint LMDE6 and Parrotsec on multi boot] and several other distros on ext drives

 

[Win7user]

I have a 2010 lappy with a T series intel cpu 4 gb ram and for normal daily use it works just fine with Mint LMDE6 [ streams live TV and plays U-tube/ DVD's perfectly] check the set-up of your machine., I also had [up to 3 weeks ago] A 208 Acer ZG5 with one of the first the single core Atom CPU's it only had 1.5 of ram so it ran Antix, not brilliant with modern hi-def streaming but for what it was designed for worked brilliantly,
so why did I get rid of them? Simple with all the mugs upgrading their machines to feather the nest of Microsoft and machine manufacturers there was a sudden glut of grade A refurbished business machines, I picked up a 5-year-old I5 quad x 2thread per core machine with 32gb ram and NVMe for around a third of the normal price, [oh it now runs Mint LMDE6 and Parrotsec on multi boot] and several other distros on ext drives

Saving cash is always a plus. And, getting a machine that does the job for you, smart choices...

 

[Brickwizard]

t's all the other stuff, trying to get programs I want that Linux doesn't have in their little box of programs. The older you get, the harder it is to learn new things. Linux, is tough for me. I can figure things out most of the time, but it takes me longer. The only saving grace for me, I've been using computers a lot since my first computer in 1998. Still, in my opinion and experience,

Most windows programs have a Linux alternative, for those that don't, you could try running the odd windows programs on wine or bottles [if 32 bit you will need to enable 32 bit codecs on your machine and use wine 32 bit]
you do not say how old you are, but unless your over 80 it it unlikely you would be the oldest person to learn the basics of Linux,
if you came into computing in 1996 then you probably only use Microsoft and possibly apple, Linux has its origins in Unix [as dose apple]
if you are having problems the go to a dedicated Linux forum, either your distribution forums or Linux.org that give advice on all distributions for the rank green newbie to the higher professionals

 

[Win7user]

Most windows programs have a Linux alternative, for those that don't, you could try running the odd windows programs on wine or bottles [if 32 bit you will need to enable 32 bit codecs on your machine and use wine 32 bit]
you do not say how old you are, but unless your over 80 it it unlikely you would be the oldest person to learn the basics of Linux,
if you came into computing in 1996 then you probably only use Microsoft and possibly apple, Linux has its origins in Unix [as dose apple]
if you are having problems the go to a dedicated Linux forum, either your distribution forums or Linux.org that give advice on all distributions for the rank green newbie to the higher professionals

The higher professionals, huh? I like that ... I'll be 67 in February. And, yeah, just Microsoft, 98SE, Win 7 Pro, and now Win 11 Pro. No Apple computers. I want to download and run, Zoom Player, (someone gave me a way to install Zoom Player, haven't tried it yet) MPH-HC Classic, and a few other programs that I'm sure will come up. I guess maybe I meant not so much as I'm too old, as much as I don't have enough patience to learn something new again. I'm also an amateur radio operator, so I'm pretty busy with that. Windows is very easy to use, I can figure out just about anything, or do a search to find the answer. I very much appreciate your time, and the information "Brickwizard", I will check out Linux forums and or Linux.org.

 

[Brickwizard]

(someone gave me a way to install Zoom Player

If you are using a Debian based distribution, then zoom can be installed as a "snap" package [the easy way] zoom is also available as an RPM file for RHEL based [red hat] distributions, or can be source compiled for Arch based distributions