Would a :For Sale/trade work @ TS?


What do you think?

Poll closed Mar 26, 2006.
  1. Yes! It's a very good idea...

  2. Could be a good idea...needs to be thought out

  3. Maybe, Really needs to be thought out

  4. No! Not a good idea at all...doomed to fail

  5. I need more info to decide

    0 vote(s)
By SOcRatEs ยท 53 replies
Mar 16, 2006
  1. IBN

    IBN TS Guru Posts: 487

    To be honest, I think there are plenty of people on TS that have many good used PC components. So it would be good idea if there were a mechanism for fellow members to trade and exchange them rather them letting the components rot.
  2. Julio Franco

    Julio Franco TechSpot Editor Posts: 7,668   +988

    Despite of not everyone agreeing this would be a good idea I think I will give it a go for a trial period. I'm way too busy right now but when I get the time I will read some of the other boards' rules and restrictions and put those up along with the new forum.
    That is the best way to go since most of those sites have probably built those rules based on the experience they have had through time. Now of course if anybody wants to give a hand I won't complain ;).
  3. nork

    nork TS Maniac Posts: 306

    I would be happy to try and help you out. Thing is, i have over 300 deals based on these types of forums, i know the rules inside and out. I havent been that active for a while but i do have all these done deals. And i could certainly be of some help, even though i am somewhat new here on this forum.

    But really, all one has to do is visit these forums and look up their rules and regs. And talk to the mods, they are always willing to help. I know they wont take the tack that they dont want to help someone else set up, more like the more the merrier is their attitude, at least most of them.

    And, as i already stated above, this is a chance for this forum to grow. Believe me when i say that when a forum has a place to buy\sell\trade they are FAR more apt to join up and become part of the whole forum, not just the buy\sell\trade.
    I would be right in there, i have a ton of stuff, lol.
    And, unless i am really out to lunch, i dont see the problem with forum owners liability, Seems to me all they have to do is clearly show a disclaimer. Perhaps you might even want to have all your members, current and future, sign such a disclaimer. You know what i mean, click on that they have read the disclaimer and agree that the owner(s) of the site arent to be help liable in any bad deals.
    Surely you are aware of heatware.com, where you can track the trading record of a person. The first thing you would want to do is have all the people who want to buy\sell\trade sign up at heatware.com. Eventually, and fairly quickly, all who deal here on this forum would build up a credit report of sorts. That is exactly what heatware is all about.

    For your sake i hope you dont miss this opportunity to grow your forum.
    Seems to me you are talking about opening up a separate forum. I think it would be far better to have it right here, but thats just my thinking.
    I apologize for anything i said (above post) that could possibly offend you, but i feel very strongly about this. Truth is, i am in Canada and i am a member of Canadian forums so i dont really need this one, but its a good forum and i would participate in the buy\sell\trade section of it!
    thanks for listening!

    P.S. The naysayers, other than those who could possibly have concerns over legal matter, should NOT have a say in wether you have such a buy\sell section as all they have to do is not participate. Let those who want to participate go ahead and those who dont then they simply dont.
    So why hold up those who would participate? Seems very rude and unfair, dont you think!
    This is also a chance for those who would like to buy\sell to speak up here!!
  4. DragonMaster

    DragonMaster TS Rookie Posts: 327

    Other boards' rules?
  5. SNGX1275

    SNGX1275 TS Forces Special Posts: 10,742   +421

    Other sites that have message boards like TS. So he (Julio) can see what type of rules and regulations they have set up to model off of.
  6. SOcRatEs

    SOcRatEs TechSpot Paladin Topic Starter Posts: 966

    This is what I have to date,
    I will have the script finished soon that allows for selecting region, state/territory and city for The Want Ads site.

    Terms of use:HERE
    Prohibited Items:Here

    I've had two local attorneys look them over and gave me a green light.

    Hope it helps!
  7. nork

    nork TS Maniac Posts: 306

    Im only one person, but, in my opinion, your site should only be about pc's. Like this forum. The for sale\trade section is at the bottom.


    So, in other words, you would put the for sale\trade section at the bottom of this forum.
  8. SOcRatEs

    SOcRatEs TechSpot Paladin Topic Starter Posts: 966

    Thats a good one "nork".
    The php classifieds can be ported or bridged to existing vBullitine BB's and
    cms websites and trimmed to only the catagories you want or need.
    It doesn't have to be forum like.
  9. nork

    nork TS Maniac Posts: 306

    SOcRatEs, Im not sure i know what you are saying, the lingo is way over my head, lol.
    But, again, i think you should simply add a for sale\trade section to the bottom of this forum.
    I get the impression that you dont want to associate this forum with a for sale\trade section. But that is just what this forum needs to spring ahead in terms of getting more people into this forum, imho.
    And why anyone would oppose having a for sale\trade section in the first place, as per the voting above, is beyond me. If they dont like it all they have to do is not use it. Let the ones who would use it go ahead and use it.
    As i said before, there is a check on this in the form of "credit reports" or records for people who buy and sell and in good time each person here would have such a report. That way people would know who to deal with and who not to deal with.
    There are many many such forums with such sections and they have been running for years. There must be a reason.
    And, as far as liability, i dont believe there is any real liability there that you cant take care of with a disclaimer. If i were wrong there wouldnt be all these forums.
  10. IBN

    IBN TS Guru Posts: 487

    I think it should be "picture friendly" so that picture of the items can be seen neatly. I dont like tha attachment method.
  11. Mirob

    Mirob TechSpot Paladin Posts: 478

    I like sites that don't let just anyone in the FS section. It keeps it to regular posters that you have had a chance to get to know and may keep some of the trolls out. Something ~100 post access with just single post threads. Some sites just have a big mess. I'd like to see some of the people here that help me and others get the good deals.
  12. nork

    nork TS Maniac Posts: 306

    Mirob, i agree with you 100%. A lot of the sites dont do things like that and they should. Absolutely. Another must is that they sign up at heatware.com, if they arent already. That way their buy\sell record is recorded there and you can check it out before making a deal.

    Another thing about the format. I have to say that the formats i have seen above, as i already said, are not a good idea. They must be at the bottom of this forum or somewhere as part of this forum.
    And i do say that each person who wants to be part of this for sale section should pay $5 or something toward the cost of extrabandwidth and such. We will save a lot more than $5 on each deal we make, so $5 or $10 per year would be nothing to someone who is active.
    But i still say it MUST be done right at the bottom of this forum, just like other successful forums. If its done the way i see above then you are just in competition with craigslist.org and you cant compete with them! You would be wasting your time.
    SOcRatEs, (cool name!) maybe i didnt read right into what is posted above but just in case i have read right, I believe you must make it a part of this forum, right at the bottom of the existing list.
    You can count me in to post right away and pay right away for my membership! I would be willing to help with the rules and regs committee, help as a mod as well. I know how to keep out the thiefs (trolls) and how to find them too! I can show you on other forums where i was successful in doing that.
  13. Julio Franco

    Julio Franco TechSpot Editor Posts: 7,668   +988

    TechSpot's brand new "For Sell & Trade" board has been opened:

    Rules are here:

    We will give it a trial period and see how it works. I'm confident the TS community has grown enough that such a forum is viable. Rules will be strictly enforced and as such we hope to succeed in making it yet another good resource for our readers.

    Two additional new boards were opened today:

    Guides and Solved Issues
    User-submitted content and troubleshooting from our community.

    Reviews by Members for Members
    You can contribute with reviews of your own hardware and software.
  14. JMMD

    JMMD TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 854

    It should be called For Sale or Trade. "For Sell" isn't grammatically correct.

    And please be careful with your trades/purchases/selling, there are trolls out there. Do your homework.
  15. nork

    nork TS Maniac Posts: 306


    I havent read the rules. I hope heatware gets in the rules if its not, lol.

    Please be careful with whom you trade.

    I hope you:

    Make a rule a person should have 100 posts before being allowed to buy\sell\trade.
    Make a rule that no links to ebay are allowed. There is a very good reason for this that i would share if needed, but best to pm me.

    Also, its much better for this section to have a rule that all "for sale" items have a price. "For trade" items dont have to have a price but "for sale" items should always have a price.
  16. nork

    nork TS Maniac Posts: 306

    Another thing, it might be a good idea to have each member report the results of their deals with each other and set a place aside for just that.
    At least until enough people have started making enough deals that they can start using heatware.com for their trading reputation. All the good forums, with the exception of ars technica, use heatware.com for reports on people who buy\sell\trade and their good and bad records are there for all to see. Heatware is well respected and should be used by this new for sale\trade section you have started.
  17. SOcRatEs

    SOcRatEs TechSpot Paladin Topic Starter Posts: 966

    Lets give a try!!!
    Julio you are awesome to try again.
    Rules look great!
    I make only one suggestion:
    you may need a disclaimer of responsibilty.
    unless it's already covered under TS site guide lines.

    Thank you!!
  18. IBN

    IBN TS Guru Posts: 487

    Remember people, "Picture friendly" please.....
  19. nork

    nork TS Maniac Posts: 306

    What do you mean by picture friendly?
    For instance, i have a compactflash card listed, is there a need for a pic of that?
    And many people dont have digital cameras. I do but for some reason its not taking decent indoor photos. I dont know if its the camera or if its me, but i have tried many settings. Im just saying that not everyone is going to be able to post pics, not looking for help on my camera, lol.
  20. SOcRatEs

    SOcRatEs TechSpot Paladin Topic Starter Posts: 966

    Thats the general rule on TS.
    I don't think he means all [FS:US] post's need a pic, just that TS is very a "family oriented" resource, that anything we post here, pic's included, need always keep that in mind.

    edit: on further review
  21. nork

    nork TS Maniac Posts: 306

    I see. I didnt even think of the other, non-family oriented, type of pics. Guess i am getting old, lol. Most people would have enuf sense but there is always one to try and spoil things i suppose, so good point.
  22. nork

    nork TS Maniac Posts: 306

    I got the first "for sale" post in!
    I am gonna end up with a huge list of goodies, lol.
  23. IBN

    IBN TS Guru Posts: 487

    The points covered.
  24. korrupt

    korrupt TS Rookie Posts: 716

    Perhaps, although it will never beat e-bay. I do not think it will be used a lot - but we will see:) I'm just glad Julio is taking suggestions seriously. That is what the Techspot community is all about:) Well done mate.


  25. Julio Franco

    Julio Franco TechSpot Editor Posts: 7,668   +988

    You are right, I guess that's what happens when you try to do a bunch of stuff when it's 5am already! :)

    As for your suggestions, I will keep reading them and round them up during the weekend and make modifications to the rules. I think heatware could be added a bit later when we get more trades in, as of now it's in our best interest to attract members' attention first.

    Trolling is something we should be cautious about and users will be forewarned, however we should also remain as accessible as possible.
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