Xbox Series X is Microsoft's new game console for 2020

[Buhaj]

Strange it won't have USB-C ports on the front. Other than that, I might switch from PS4 Pro if it has a swappable SSD and good games.

And I like the design - don't understand all the hate.

 

[OptimumSlinky]

I can't believe they put Zen2 in it. Why on Earth?? Only reason can be to release a Series X Pro with +30% processing power with Zen3 in a year.... Why can't they just get it right once??

The hardware and production for these machines was done over a year ago, and selections are made with a likely $499 MSRP in mind.

 

[OptimumSlinky]

It wont hit a true 4k60, it'll be some upscaling magic.

Doesn't matter. Sitting 8-10 feet back, 80% resolution scaling or checkerboarding difference is almost imperceptible. "True 4K" is nice, but not worth the performance penalty.

 

[gusticles41]

I stare at this photo thinking, "Where will this fit in my entertainment center?". And the answer is, "Nowhere".

4k60FPS? That claim better apply to ALL games they release for it. And it better actually maintain 60FPS.

 

[OptimumSlinky]

But really all the power in the world can't detract from the fact that the games on consoles are pretty much all the same re-tread shooters.

Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild. Bloodborne. God of War.

Some of the best games this console generation were neither shooters nor re-treads. Just because your kids don't play anything worthwhile doesn't mean it isn't there.

 

[pcnthuziast]

Not upgrading my pc till all the specs of this and Sony's offering is in the wild. Wanna ensure my pc has considerably better specs in every regard and buying any upgrades in my price range right now may not guarantee that.

 

[kira setsu]

Not upgrading my pc till all the specs of this and Sony's offering is in the wild. Wanna ensure my pc has considerably better specs in every regard and buying any upgrades in my price range right now may not guarantee that.

even if you wait for the specs, whatever you build will be at its limits by the end of that generation anyway, what the consoles can do at their price points is amazing when you compare it to PC.

even the beefiest gpu available now will for some reason (money) be struggling in a few short years.

 

[TheBigT42]

It looks mostly rectangular to me. Two sides are squares but Four sides are rectangles.

 

[Irata]

Basically a PC with paid multiplayer and no mods

At a considerably lower price.

 

[Irata]

?I've been running 4k60 for a year now. It's not new; current PCs can handle it just fine.

Not saying they can't, but how much does this PC cost vs. what you will pay for a console.

 

[ckm88]

Ain't gonna lie - looks pretty cool, kind of like a subwoofer.

 

[Irata]

There’s actually keyboard and mouse support in xbox, but it doesn’t have support for every mouse

And actually the gpu might be as powerful as an rx 590 since it can do 4k 60 at medium and 4k 90 at low
https://www.gpucheck.com/gpu/amd-radeon-rx-590/intel-core-i7-8700k-3-70ghz/low/?lang=en&currency=usd

I checked the link and the numbers look very dubious. Sorry, I don't buy acceptable 4k gaming with an RX 590.

But let's assume this were true - add up the total system price (including mainboard, SSD, memory, PSU, case, copy of Windows...). Unless the next gen Playstation and XBox are a lot more expensive then current models were at launch, you are probably still way beyond the price of a console that will most likely perform better.

 

[gamerk2]

Not saying they can't, but how much does this PC cost vs. what you will pay for a console.

Thats where consoles "always" have the advantage. But it's not like a 8600k/1080Ti based system is affordable, especially since 1080Ti prices keep dropping.

 

[Arris]

Not only are the guts of these units basically PCs, now the outside is just a compact PC tower...

 

[newstark2042]

LOL this is just a pc chassis with xbox logo on it

 

[Dimitrios]

Xbox makes computers now ;-)

 

[KingAlistair]

Utterly bizarre and unfriendly shape for most living rooms. Is that a vertically oriented DVD drive at the *bottom* of the thing? Good grief, this is the Apple Trashcan of consoles.

Microsoft underestimated the stupidity of the internet. The Xbox One X was shown off vertically (can't do links on techspot or I'd share) and everyone wasn't stupid enough to assume you also can't put it horizontal, which you can, just like with the Xbox SX.

 

[KingAlistair]

LOL this is just a pc chassis with xbox logo on it

I stare at this photo thinking, "Where will this fit in my entertainment center?". And the answer is, "Nowhere".

4k60FPS? That claim better apply to ALL games they release for it. And it better actually maintain 60FPS.

Use your brain. It is smaller than a center speaker or a receiver.

 

[Ravalo]

I checked the link and the numbers look very dubious. Sorry, I don't buy acceptable 4k gaming with an RX 590.

But let's assume this were true - add up the total system price (including mainboard, SSD, memory, PSU, case, copy of Windows...). Unless the next gen Playstation and XBox are a lot more expensive then current models were at launch, you are probably still way beyond the price of a console that will most likely perform better.

It prob won‘t cost the same as last gen, around 600-700$ for 1 TB

the prices of the rx 590 are higher than usual rn so I replaced with the more efficient 1660: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vcvWcq (with appropiate mechanical kb and mouse)

you can install windows for free with a usb drive and activate windows with msguides.com or buy an OEM key (10-15$)

And here are some benchmarks comparing the rx 590 and the 1660:

 

[gusticles41]

Use your brain. It is smaller than a center speaker or a receiver.

Use your manners.

After learning it can safely be positioned on it's side, it is less of an issue. But being a very different form factor than its predecessor won't make it a simple swap in my cabinet.

 

[brucek]

The point of devices having standardized shapes and even sizes (like stereo equipment) is so that you can arrange all of your devices in an organized way and have them look OK together.

It's not that I dislike the new form factor on its own merits, it's that it means this device isn't going to fit on the same size shelf everything else does.

While I don't doubt cooling was the number one factor, part of me wonders if they also wanted to make it so most people would have to place this somewhere it was fully visible. In some households that strategy might backfire with it ending up banished out of the main living room.

 

[brucek]

Re: "eliminating load times" - gimme a break. I doubt it is going to have superior I/O to today's high end workstations, and it definitely won't have more free RAM to serve as a cache, and there's still load times there.

But I guess to console-only gamers, who've been living with optical or mechanical storage, the jump to SSD might seem so dramatic that they won't mind the remaining few seconds.

 

[m4a4]

Re: "eliminating load times" - gimme a break. I doubt it is going to have superior I/O to today's high end workstations, and it definitely won't have more free RAM to serve as a cache, and there's still load times there.

But I guess to console-only gamers, who've been living with optical or mechanical storage, the jump to SSD might seem so dramatic that they won't mind the remaining few seconds.

If they do use a NVMe SSD (as it looks like), then yeah, they could. As long as the rest of the components support those speeds.

 

[hahahanoobs]

"I want kb/m"
"I want NVME"
"I want to be able to upgrade it"
"I want more cores and faster GPU"
"I want 4k60fps"

"I don't want it to look like a PC"
fml....

 

[mrtraver]

Well, MS has always sucked at naming Xbox successors.