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YouTubers caught promoting CS:GO gambling site they own

By Shawn Knight ยท 14 replies
Jul 6, 2016
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  1. Counter-Strike: Global Offensive, or CS:GO, is an immensely popular multiplayer first-person shooter from Valve. Unless you play the game or keep up with eSports-related news, you may be unaware of the booming gambling ring that’s cropped up in recent years.

    GS:GO wasn’t an immediate hit for Valve. As Bloomberg noted back in April, that all changed when Valve introduced decorative virtual weapon skins in August 2013 that could be acquired in the game and sold for real money.

    Valve called it the Arms Deal Update and noted that it let players experience all the illicit thrills of black market weapons trafficking without any of the hanging around in darkened warehouses getting knifed to death. In other words, gamers were free to collect, buy, sell or trade weapon skins that could be used in the game.

    Within two years of the update, the number of people playing CS:GO had increased by 1,500 percent according to Bloomberg.

    Shortly after, a number of gambling sites launched that allowed players to bet their skins on pro CS:GO matches. According to one estimate, more than three million people wagered $2.3 billion worth of skins in 2015 alone. It’s not just the gambling sites that are making money – most are run on software developed by Valve and thus, pay the developer a 15 percent fee.

    Some sites, however, take a different approach to gambling. Instead of betting on pro matches, participants put skins into a big pot and rely on a random number generator to select a winner. The rarer your skin, the better chance you have of winning the entire pot and taking skins wagered by other players.

    Over on YouTube, CS:GO gambling of this nature is rather popular. YouTubers Trevor "TmarTn" Martin and Tom "Syndicate" Cassell are among the most popular content creators in this genre, putting together videos showcasing their winnings from a gambling site called CSGO Lotto. With millions of subscribers, their videos are no doubt reaching and influencing loads of impressionable gamers.

    Showcasing their winnings and promoting CSGO Lotto is one thing but as it turns out, there’s quite a bit of deception going on as Martin and Cassell have recently been outed as the owner and vice president of the gambling site, respectively.

    So what we have here are two guys posting videos in which they act surprised to win skins worth thousands of dollars but all along, they’re behind the site they’re using to “win” the goods. That sure sounds shady to me.

    In a post that has since been deleted, Martin admitted that he owned CSGO Lotto and said he wished he had been more upfront about it. He added that his ownership has always been public information and that everything they’ve done up to this point has been legal which is a top priority of theirs.

    Research into the matter, however, suggests otherwise. PCGamer and h3hProductions looked into the matter and found no evidence of Martin’s interest in the site. What’s more, they found a transcript from one video that clearly demonstrates deception:

    "We found this new site called CSGO Lotto—so I'll link it down in the description if you guys want to check it out. We were betting on it today and I won a pot of like $69 or something like that, so it was a pretty small pot, but it was like the coolest feeling ever. I ended up following them [CSGO Lotto] on Twitter and stuff, and they hit me up and they're talking to me about potentially doing like a skin sponsorship..."

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  2. davislane1

    davislane1 Inquisitor Posts: 4,507   +3,508

    Scammer's gonna scam.
  3. fps4ever

    fps4ever TS Booster Posts: 95   +66

    The world is full of lovely young people like this. The Internet just gives them more opportunities.
  4. stewi0001

    stewi0001 TS Evangelist Posts: 1,519   +903

    Several things:
    1. I hope those kids get burned so hard in court.
    2. Say hello to our future US Presidential candidates.
    3. If they are close friends of Hillary Clinton, they'll get pardoned.
  5. Nobina

    Nobina TS Evangelist Posts: 1,139   +632

    Who actually falls for this crap? If you see someone win a lot of money do you really think your luck will be the same?
    stewi0001 likes this.
  6. davislane1

    davislane1 Inquisitor Posts: 4,507   +3,508

    Fixed that for you.
  7. JetFixxxer

    JetFixxxer TS Enthusiast Posts: 40   +6

    Last edited: Jul 6, 2016
  8. First phrase out of these kinds of scammers mouths...."it was legal"
    in fact "He added that his ownership has always been public information and that everything they've done up to this point has been legal which is a top priority of theirs."
    so...we will rip you off any which way we can, as long as it is legal. Reminds me of Apple et.al.
    Sum Guy likes this.
  9. risc32

    risc32 TS Addict Posts: 209   +96

    I heard about this skin mod stuff and I saw some of this game in action. I was hoping it was all a bad dream. People are really into pink rifles and a game that appears to be pretty crappy? really? With actual money?
    I still refuse to believe this.....
  10. hood6558

    hood6558 TS Addict Posts: 252   +58

    Not that hard to believe - lots of millennials don't know the value of money, are basically out of touch with reality, have no empathy, and spend most of their time "gaming". Oh yeah, and it's not really stealing, since they're all entitled to everything!
  11. Sum Guy

    Sum Guy TS Booster Posts: 38   +11

    I hope Steam gets burned hard. I used to be Steam's biggest fan until the banned me for saying Pirate. Meanwhile we got users with offensive names and very abusive in their posts. I get banned for saying pirate, but everything else is ok. Those thieves deserve what's coming to them. I hope their attorneys fail..
    darkzelda likes this.
  12. petert

    petert TS Booster Posts: 177   +49

    So people are mean and they will rob you? ... GET OVER IT!
  13. wastedkill

    wastedkill TS Evangelist Posts: 1,423   +350

    plz dont troll.
  14. stewi0001

    stewi0001 TS Evangelist Posts: 1,519   +903

    thanks for catching that :p
  15. robb213

    robb213 TS Addict Posts: 328   +98

    I've been seeing a lot of comments about this sort of stuff lately on the comments section of various twitch streamers. The way they all sounded was...rather gray if you catch what I mean.

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