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  1. Whoaman Newcomer, in training Posts: 71

    Ahh but even some rudimentary math will show you this is not true. It's called Mac resale value. And this is really only one of many factors for TCO and ROI. Support is another. And there are many more.

    Stupid would be to think that cost is only what you pay at the till.
  2. ramonsterns TechSpot Enthusiast Posts: 752   +12

    I do get support.

    For free.

    Right here on this website.
  3. captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 8,802   +285

    An' we don't bees knowin' nuffin' bout no Lemons, er I mean Apples. So, it's back to China fer U 'n yer Apple.

    Anyway, I think an Apple trojan is a wonderful affirmation of Apple becoming viable in the marketplace. Unfortunately, it's also a big let down for those who confuse the lack of malware for product superiority. But then again, "see the crooks do care after all, and they're coming for your personal information. They want to get to know you better. You interests are their interests. Heart warming, isn't it?

    Actually, most of the cranks that think they know it all about Apple are over in the "Adobe Photoshop Forums. The know absolutely nothing about computers, but everything about Apple. Does anybody else see the paradox there?
  4. Whoaman Newcomer, in training Posts: 71

    Naturally any generic pc tech rag will have a predominance of Windows users by ratio. I don't think that means all others should not take part and I don't think I need explain why.

    Secondly, if one is going to dish it out then they'd better also learn to take it. Many of you take something as insignificant as a computer or OS far too seriously and attach your identities to it as if it is a limb on your body.

    And apparently many of you do need en-lightening. Whether you can get blood from a stone is another matter.

    Finally, I am platform agnostic to a large extent but enjoy debating and debunking the myths so many cling to concerning the different platforms.

    We all owe a lot to Steve Jobs regardless of what Computer\OS\Phone\Tablet we choose as he is a major force behind getting everyone in the industry to "pull up their socks" and improve and innovate.

    Regardless, Steve is just a human being like you or me with a family and friends etc. His health is obviously quite fragile at the moment and I wish him and all others in his situation the best.
  5. Whoaman Newcomer, in training Posts: 71

    lol :)

    dem'thar China seems to gru all'dem dang 'puters now 'cept for da'brain. Kinda figures.
  6. captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 8,802   +285

    There are an equal number of myths to be "debunked" on the Apple side on the discussion also.

    As far as being "platform agnostic", (which I consider admirable BTW), there are many young people and hard core gamers here that really could not, (and will not), embrace Apple for that very reason.

    Which of course, could lead to a lengthy discussion as to whether we're talking about using a computer for "computery" purposes, or rather as a game console.

    My point is this, I use my computers mostly for imaging. Windows machines are as good as a Mac for this purpose. However, I am really tired of listening to great tales of Apple superiority in this capacity, from a bunch of snobs that think they're artists. As I said before, they know all about how great a Mac is, but they have no basis in computer knowledge to make that claim.

    Most of the malware these ******* pick up, is due to either their own stupidity, or in some combination with a crap a** 6 year old copy of Macafee or Norton installed on the machine.

    The fact that 3rd party apps are necessary for malware prevention in Windows machines is, (IMHO) not a drawback. Windows is an open platform, so most apps are 3rd party apps anyway. So, why should security software be any different?

    I always pose this question, "how is it that I surf porn all day, my computer has no problems, and scans perfectly clean, but you can't go to Facebook without contracting a fatal infection"?

    (That's obviously one Windows user to another).

    As far as the lower cost after the sale with Apple you're purporting, I offer this from our forums; http://www.techspot.com/vb/topic157368.html

    The moral of this story is; if you deal with Apple directly for service, you're going to get screwed all over again after the sale.
     
  7. Whoaman Newcomer, in training Posts: 71

    That's a SIX year old machine. Any repair of an out of warranty machine from any vendor will be expensive - especially a 6 year old one. That is if you could even find it supported at all considering most PC vendors blast out new models like changing toilet paper rolls. It's a testament to the lasting attraction of the well-designed mac hardware that users are satisfied with their performance years beyond winPCs - this is also one of the reasons they fetch a premium at resale.

    In this particular forum entry, in the end he found what he needed at a more reasonable price without much trouble. And since Mac moved to the Intel cpu years ago it has become even easier to find cheap parts for Mac than trying to dig up any custom parts for the 10,000,000 differently designed mostly one-off PC machines.

    Mac are continually year after year rated best support in the industry (see Consumer Reports). That means better than the rest though definitely far from perfect.
  8. ramonsterns TechSpot Enthusiast Posts: 752   +12

    Because custom built computers will have customer reports, right?
  9. gwailo247 TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,105   +18

    Your thesis operates under the mistaken assumption that your posts are funny.
  10. ramonsterns TechSpot Enthusiast Posts: 752   +12

    Wait, the definition of funny doesn't include laughing *at* someone for their actions?

    I thought he was hilarious, thank you for educating me otherwise.
  11. captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 8,802   +285

    Well, that's the beauty of universal plug and play. "10,000,000" Windows machines can all be repaired with few dozen standard pars. Now try buying parts for a Macbook "Air" at Newegg. Whoops, and away it goes, back to China.

    Coincidentally, Apple's sales skyrocketed when they embraced Intel CPUs, and began dual booting with Windows. Of course, Apple takes all the credit. Small matter that they've turned the Mac into a PC ripoff.

    Well of course they are. That's because the people that buy them can't fix them themselves. Keep in mind that a lot of s*** has to break before you can become #1 in service. :rolleyes:
  12. dividebyzero trainee n00b Posts: 4,101   +201

  13. Wagan8r TechSpot Maniac Posts: 521   +15

    Wait, remind me again why I have Apple envy? I can't remember. I forgot to take my shimmering magicalness pill this morning.
  14. captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 8,802   +285

    Not only that, but you didn't save enough to get me high.
  15. Chazz TechSpot Enthusiast Posts: 534   +35

    You guys aren't giving Apple credit where it's due. Name ONE other manufacturer that has successfully found AND extracted Unicorn horns and pixie dust to give us such magical game changing systems. Considering their materials, their price is a bargin!
  16. Whoaman Newcomer, in training Posts: 71

    You guys are a bunch of silly banana heads!
  17. Wagan8r TechSpot Maniac Posts: 521   +15

    Then you're in good company! Hooray!
  18. CamaroMullet Newcomer, in training Posts: 115

    I'm in my mid 30's, been building PC's for about 15 years. I've always had multiple pcs, my primary ( the kids don't touch!! ) and 1 or 2 more for htpc and the kids. Every 5 to 6 months I have to do a good reformatting on the kids pc, they don't know **** about computers and download/install all weird kinds of crap.

    Last year I got a REALLY good deal on a newish intel macbook pro. It's the new "kid" computer and I have to admit I haven't had nearly the amount of garbage/issues as I've had with my pcs. My point is, for none to low level tech knowledge, non-gamer types Apple's are perfect for them. If you can build or trouble shoot pc issues or a gamer, sticking with a pc IMO is the only option.
  19. captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 8,802   +285

  20. dividebyzero trainee n00b Posts: 4,101   +201