Comp Specs What You Think?

I dunno, always have been a nVidia fan, I just wanna try out ATI.

I too have always been an Nvidia fan, but right now ATi have the goods. Dont get a 9800, its merely better then the 9700, and costs +/-$100 more. The 9700 is exactly what you described

"performance in gaming and everything else
- ability to play movies in exceptional quality from the computer to a TV
- something that performs exceptionally under high to extremely high resolutions ".

Not to mention, by the time the next Readon comes out, drops in price, its going to be another 4 months!

The videos ram does come into play when using very high resolutions (some what physcial, but 2GBs wont do you any better then 1GB), but I think 128MBs of vRAM is ample. Is 1920x1440 extreamly high to you? I just dont think the 256MB card is worth how much it costs.

Np on getting that list for you, however it did take like 90 minutes...because I always look for the best deals, instead of getting ripped off, so I may spend 20 minz just looking up a good cpu...PM me your e-mail address, and i'll get you that word doc

Tell me if this PC appeals to you, its similar to what you have listed:

$1503+ $60 (S&H)=$1563

- CPU: Athlon XP 3200+ 2.2GHz 400FSB: $442

- Cooling: Thermalright SLK-900-U ( Heatsink ONLY ): $47

- Motherboard: A7N8X: $130

- Hard Drive: Seagate Barracuda 160GB Serial ATA 7200RPM: $167 SATA ( SERIAL ATA Power Adaptor. ): $5

- Memory: Corsair TWINX1024-2700LLPT 1GB DDR333 XMS2700 Dual-Channel Memory: $255

- Video Card: Sapphire ATI RADEON 9700 ATLANTIS PRO 8X: $292

- Case: X-Dreamer ATX Mid-Tower Case w/Window - Black w/350watt PSU: $65

- Drive: $7

- CD-RW: Samsung DVD 16x + CD-RW 52x24x52 Combo Drive: $73

- 80mm Case Fan: Quad LED – Blue: $2.50 (x8)= $20

Maybe get that? Bigger HD, 1GB SDDDR, 9700 PRO, that 3200+ outperforms the 3.06Ghz P4! Not in the HT deparment ofviously, but else where yes Burner/DVD Combo drive - the goods. If you live in the USA, i'll even build it for ya, if you have $100 to spare, pay me with paypal or something, i'll ship it to you and vulla. But im sure you want to bulid it :blush:

Thanks for spending so much time on doing reserach for me, now that's what I call being really friendly.

Um, I kindly accept your offer on building the PC for me but I will have to reject that, I recently built a Athlon XP 3000+ A7N8X Deluxe system for my friend from scratch, for $50, I'm proud of myself . I think I can tackle down another AMD based system again. Yeah, I want to build it, that's what makes custom PC building fun.

My email is xtreme3_x3@hotmail.com.

I'd like to see both specs, thanks alot!

An entrepreneur at work.

Thats very true nic, its my income. I do that, and make websites. Im currently making 2 websites, which are pulling 320$/yr. not too shabby for a 14 yr old eh? beats working at McDonalds for $5 an hour! :grinthumb

Lol. Wow you're 14, just wow.

Hey I started making websites when I was 12, hehe. Now I'm 16 and I make professional websites for people.

I've always been making HTML sites but now I'm movin on to PHP powered pages with MySQL on backend. Soon I will accomplish my first PHP site that someone wants. (yeah!)

ANYWAYS, back to topic.

Oh yeah, can you send me the word docs?

Well, some people say it is lower than that, but I know that I have been able to tell the difference between 30fps and 50fps very easily.

What about this? What do you guys have to say about this? Am I right?

Actually, memory should be fine because the FSB on the P4 3.0 is QUAD-PUMPED, 4 times 200mhz so it should be just fine (right?).

Yeah, im "just" 14 :blush: Both of the web sites I make are "professional"...Im even using Flash I want to learn PHP, thast my goal...I dont use HTML, I use Frontpage 2003. Anyways:

Your zis 100% correct about the FSB/RAM speeds, however as far as this Quad-Pumping stuff goes, I have no idea...AMD,AMD,AMD!!! I sent the word docs btw

you can run your memory out of sync

but, it's better to be ...........n'sync..........hehe

Since there's 4 slots for memory, and say each slot contributed at least 200mhz, then that builds up the 800mhz FSB that the processor has (right?)!

Actually, if you can prove me wrong, I will start using AMD. But please, don't lie about anything, only factual stuff you know.

I honestly dont know, but it does make since. But it would not work if they had all 4 ram dimms, running on 1 line, to the CPU. But if each dimm, had its own line, running to the cpu, they would add up to 800mhz. However if it only has 1 line, running from the ram, that line at 200mhz, you'll be squeezing all 4 ram pcbs into that 1 line, staying at 200Mhz. Im calling it a 'line', because I dont know the tech. term But seriously, that 3Ghz P4 is just a little cheaper then the 3200+ and the 3200 out does the 3ghz by a chuck go look at some benchies!!

Hehe, no man. You can't "add up" FSB speeds like that. Doesnt work that way.

AMD WINzZzZz...

and AMD is the WiNNeR!!!!! Wooooooooooooooo, AMD!

Heres your P4 sir: :hotouch: + puke: = Intel
Heres that XP sir: :bounce: + :approve: = AMD

^^^ Couldn't have said it better myself...

Ok, now it makes alot of sense why I should by AMD.

But what other factors also contribute? Memory is the problem with the P4... you can't match it up with the FSB. Any other notes you guys have? Even if it's for or against AMD?

On an off subject note, man, I am glad you changed your avatar and signature

I do like that sig alot more, and just like it in general. yeah P4s FSB speeds are pretty bogus eh...but isnt that why they have 800Mhz RDRAM?

No no, you don't understand.

First you need to understand what a Front Side Bus is. It is basically a "network" of very small connections between your processor for example that allow your processor to "communicate" with other components in your system. Especially things such as RAM.

Understand?

Your FSB speed can not be higher than what it is. If it is an 800mhz FSB thats all that it can be, although like one of you have said it may be "quad-pumped" (but it is quadpumped from 200mhz)

Ok so say your RAM has a 333mhz FSB. If you have the 800mhz FSB processor (technically it is quadpumped and is only actually a 200mhz FSB), but your 333mhz RAM actually is only a 166mhz in the same way.

To understand a FSB you have to think of this in terms of communication speeds between each component. It literally is the speed that information is able to get back and forth from each other.

Sometimes you get into running a bottleneck because your FSB is not fully utilized. For example if you have SDRAM@133mhz and your processor has a 266mhz FSB then your RAM would only be able to talk to your processor at 133mhz when you could go buy 266mhz RAM and get much better performance because your RAM is able to talk to your processor at much higher speeds. Your processor is able to perform at 266 mhz so it isn't going to like having to slow down to talk to your RAM.

That P4 has a 800mhz FSB. I am not 100% sure about the 800mhz FSB since it is really a 200mhz FSB quad pumped, so for the specifics of that you would need to ask someone else. Soul Harvester would be good at answering that question. He seems to know a lot more about it than I do.

I'm having problems at newegg.com when I try looking for heatsinks/fans for socket 462, there aren't any results! I don't understand, but then I search for Thermalright SLK-900-U and it is there and supports Athlon XP 2800+ or higher! WTF!

Also, if I were to get the Thermalright SLK-900-U, how the heck would I get a fan on that and which fan do I purchase and what would you recommend?