Comp Specs What You Think?

By XtR-X
Jun 22, 2003
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  1. XtR-X

    XtR-X Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 1,040

    You should have to take advantage of the PC3200 RAM whenever you can. In fact, I think you can only use PC3200 when your processor is set for 400MHz FSB.
  2. acidosmosis

    acidosmosis TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 1,574

    Why do you think that Xtr-X? I'm pretty sure the RAM your able to use depends on your motherboard and what it supports. If you have a 400mhz FSB on the processor but your motherboard supports 333mhz RAM then you can use it.
  3. Nic

    Nic TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,928

    You can use faster ram at any speed that does not exceed its max rating. Go for the PC3200 it will save you upgrading later should you decide to run your fsb at 400.
  4. acidosmosis

    acidosmosis TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 1,574

    Nic is right. Although sometimes when you dont want to spend the money on pc3200 ram you might want pc2100 for example. Thought pc3200 will perform much better, but cost more.
  5. ---agissi---

    ---agissi--- TechSpot Paladin Posts: 2,382   +15

    Your totally right Xtr, sorry, by bad. I forgot how your having a 400Mhz FSB, not a 333, so you do need the PC3200 ;) Also, the pack I said to keep, is already one gig!! Really man, you need no more. That ram is also tested to work in Dual Channel mode - bingo, thats what you want. No need for 1.5GBs or whatever...it just wont make a diffrence, ram doesnt work that way.
  6. XtR-X

    XtR-X Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 1,040

    How exactly do I know if it's in Dual Channel mode or to optimize its placement? That's really why I wanted to max out on the sticks to buy, I was afraid that I would put it in the wrong slot(s) and be running in single channel mode or something. That way, with 3 sticks its unmistakable, 1 slot for each. Maybe you guys can help me out with that. Where do you place them?
  7. Nic

    Nic TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,928

    With 3 sticks you definitely won't be running in dual channel mode. What you need is two identical sticks, and change some bios settings perhaps (might be automatic with your board) and you'll be running dual channel straight out the box. Get two 512 MB sticks of PC3200 from either Corsair or TwinMOS (winbond chips only as these are what Corsair uses, but are cheaper as they are untested by TwinMOS).
  8. XtR-X

    XtR-X Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 1,040

    Alright, elliminated that extra corsair stick.
  9. JSR

    JSR Banned Posts: 730

    you can double up

    two 256 in slots 1&2, and a 512 in slot 3...........as the first two slots determine the first channel............and the third as the second channel........yet, most run in slot 1&3 or 2&3 with like ram............with 2&3 being preferred..........any designs on overclocking should lead to an increase in the quality of the ram to compensate...........yet, 3200 ram is what is necessary to operate at 400 fsb, that is if you are going to be running in sync.........don't give me that typo crap about the 3000+ not being available @ 400 fsb, read it and weep.......and, i tried to explain that it would have a different timing structure, as to push past the capabilities of the 3200+.....just the way amd cpus are, they do not benefit greatly from a jump to 400fsb, and can refer you to several benchmarking articles that concur.....you shortchanged yourself on the videocard...........of which i would apply the differential to have the 9800 .........even the 333 fsb 3000+ would outrun a 3200+ if overclocked.......dual channel will.......after you have flashed the bios proper ver. to rev...........it will say you are in dual channel on the POST screen............but, that's it for my help...........there is only so much i can stand
  10. ---agissi---

    ---agissi--- TechSpot Paladin Posts: 2,382   +15

    haha, its ok JSR...hopefully you'll read this, becasue I dont fully understand what your talking about with this benefit thing as far as the 3000+ goes. Also a question for you, to run your PC in Dual Channel mode, does your CPU also (MHz/GHz wise) have to be in sync with the ram? I wouldnt think so, but tell me other wise. And I've looked at benchies and read reviews, the 400MHz FSB does make a diffrence.
  11. JSR

    JSR Banned Posts: 730

    hehe

    no, you can run your memory .....out of sync.........but,wouldn't you rather be ......n'sync..........hehe.......... your cpu carries with it's bus designation.........and, with it, what you will set your memory to. it's when you overclock, that you'd better have memory that can surpass that current bus designation............or, you will not accomplish much in the way of overclocking........go to ace's hardware and check out the article comparing the 3200+ to the 3.2 p4......they threw in the 3000+ in the mix..........we're looking at maybe three frames here...........and, check out the difference in the timing structure of each cpu.........and, that it is now available with the 400fsb..........blah blah blah........but hey, it's your dime
  12. ---agissi---

    ---agissi--- TechSpot Paladin Posts: 2,382   +15

    Ok XTR since u gotta order like tomorrow, heres the plan...:
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    ~ Get the 3000+ from that store (http://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=M&Product_Code=120741&Category_Code=P )

    ~ Get rid of that excess 512MB RAM stick

    ~ Not order the floppy cable you have there, it comes with the mobo your buying :grinthumb

    ~ Enjoy that sweet-*** $20 fan grill :D

    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Sound good to you? Sounds like a plan to me!

    Looks like your all set :)
  13. XtR-X

    XtR-X Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 1,040

    Thanks. And man, I'm buying a round floppy cable, I dont want one of those flat wide ones, that obstructs airflow.
     
  14. ---agissi---

    ---agissi--- TechSpot Paladin Posts: 2,382   +15

    hahaha :eek: alright mate - whatever floats yer boat!
  15. XtR-X

    XtR-X Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 1,040

    I'm gonna buy it tomorrow near noon. I just want to say thank you to everyone who helped me out, and cleared my mind from the Intel delirium I was in.

    I'd especially like to thank bucky, as he likes to be called, for helping out and using up his own time to look up some good specs.

    I will check again here right before I purchase it tomorrow. That way it'd give some room for last minute changes, if any need be done.
  16. XtR-X

    XtR-X Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 1,040

    Also, do I need a ATA150 cable?

    18-Inch, 90-Degree-Angled, SATA ( SERIAL ATA 150 ) Cable. 2-Head. ( RED ).

    Cuz the HD is ATA150, dunno if the MB comes with ATA150 cable, but I know it comes with ATA133.
  17. acidosmosis

    acidosmosis TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 1,574

    Yea I highly doubt the MB comes with a ATA150 cable. You will need to buy one. I've never even heard of an ATA150 cable before, must be newer.
  18. young&wild

    young&wild TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 1,268

    Some HDD Manufacturers actually supply ATA -150 cables together with their products like Seagate where most of their ATA 150 HDD come with the cable.
  19. young&wild

    young&wild TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 1,268

    One more thing i forgot, you might need a ATA 150 Serial controller.
  20. ---agissi---

    ---agissi--- TechSpot Paladin Posts: 2,382   +15

    Hey I hope you havnt bought it yet. your mobo comes with 2 SATA-150 cables! and y&w, the controller is onboard the mobo :grinthumb
  21. ---agissi---

    ---agissi--- TechSpot Paladin Posts: 2,382   +15

  22. XtR-X

    XtR-X Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 1,040

  23. XtR-X

    XtR-X Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 1,040

    I hope there's nothing else that I'll miss or anything. I'm buying in an hour, I'll check for last, last, last minute things I should do, if any need be done.

    Also, just have to say darn't! The case I want was just sold out today. F$%@!!!!!
  24. ---agissi---

    ---agissi--- TechSpot Paladin Posts: 2,382   +15

    haha. Dont worry XTR, that happened to me too, on the one day I went to buy my hardware...:blackeye:

    I think your already to go.... :)
  25. XtR-X

    XtR-X Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 1,040

    Hey, um, for my server, hows this case sound instead, and it only has a 200W PSU.

    Lite-On Model# BK 202 (Black)Micro ATX Case w/ 200W P4 Ready Power Supply and Front USB Ports - Retail
    BK202 is a consumer and commercial Book Size Micro ATX chassis support Pentium 4 processors.
    Specifications:
    Material: Chassis Metal Material
    Drive Bays: External 1 X 5.25" - 1 X 3.5" Internal 2 X 3.5"
    System Board: MicroATX and FlexATX Board
    Expansion Slot: 4 Slots
    Standard Fans: 1 X 80mm - 2 X 40mm
    Dimension: (W x H x D) 3.8" x 13.4" x 17.3"

    Can it support AMD, even though it can support Pentium?
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