Comp Specs What You Think?

By XtR-X
Jun 22, 2003
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  1. acidosmosis

    acidosmosis TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 1,574

    Don't run that thing without a fan. Not a good idea. You must have air circulating around that heatsink or it does no good.

    I recommend the Vantec Tornado 92mm Fan. It pushes about 119cfm which is a lot of air for a 92mm fan. I have heard some say it is loud but others say it isnt.

    Even a regular 80mm fan would be fine. You can get them anywhere for around $10.
  2. XtR-X

    XtR-X Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 1,040

    I was looking at the tornado 92mm earlier. It says it's noise is dba 55, pretty loud. This comp is sitting on my desk, next to my computer screen. The noise may be a big problem.
  3. XtR-X

    XtR-X Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 1,040

    I don't know about the 900-U, I was reading quite many reviews and they all say it doesn't fit with most AMD boards. Shocking, I tell you. Do any of you know if it fits on the A7N8X?

    If they don't fit, what about this (I mean I know it fits but what do you think about it)?

    Thermaltake VOLCANO 11- Xaser Edition.
    Opti-fin technology, made of All Copper.
    Adjustable fan speed controller, installs in expension slot.
    For AMD Athlon XP up to 3400+.
    Specifications:
    Fan: 80x80x25 mm(Two Ball Bearing). Heat sink: 70x66x30.8 mm.
    Air Flow: 20.55 CFM at 20°C~ 75.70 CFM at 55°C. Mfr's P/N: A1607
  4. XtR-X

    XtR-X Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 1,040

    Also, guys, I have 2 days left to order from today. I must order on the 27th, that's when most everything I want comes back in stock, so everything ASAP would be nice.

    I can't afford another 2-4 weeks for stock to come back in again.
  5. acidosmosis

    acidosmosis TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 1,574

    http://www.thermalright.com/faq_900_Motherboard.html

    You would need to bend the capacitors back a bit, but you should be fine (just be careful). I am going to be buying the A7N8X for my next machine and will be using the SLK-900.

    Oh and btw your going with AMD now?

    On the Thermaltake Volcano 11:

    Well, the first thing that pops right out is the fact that this sink is made of all copper. They tried reverting to an aluminum hybrid thing in the last revision, so it is good to see that they went back to the quality components. It is a well established fact that copper has better thermal dissipation capabilities than aluminum, but when weight and cost comes into play it can sometimes be an alternative that manufacturers look at. Not so with the Volcano 11, though, and this is certainly a very welcome concept.

    Copper is a good thing.

    The clip used to secure this cooler to your motherboard isn't anything fancy, but it is very functional and requires no abnormal amount of force to attach it to the socket. Also, the three prong approach pictured above will help make sure that your screwdriver doesn't slip out when installing the cooler and ruin the tracings on the motherboard

    Be careful when using a screwdriver to do this. There is a certain technique you need to use, and the screwdriver can very easily slip and scratch the board or knock a hole in the motherboard.]


    - Pros
    Effective cooling
    80mm fan size
    Built-in external rheostat
    All copper sink
    Multiple fan speed controls

    - Cons
    Fan is LOUD at maximum speed
    A little expensive


    Excerpts taken from:
    http://www.tweaktown.com/document.php?dType=review&dId=453



    Opinion: It really isnt any quieter than the Thermaltake but you won't have to bend back capacitors to get it installed. (This is if you get the stock fan with the heatsink).
  6. ---agissi---

    ---agissi--- TechSpot Paladin Posts: 2,382   +15

    hey - I 100% garantee you, it fits an Asus A7N8x!!! I just installed it today, on that board, so it DOES fit ;)

    Dont get that tornado fan, 55db? Are you nux? Thats load as heck! Get this from googlegear, along with all your other AMD hardware:
    http://www.googlegear.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=370809

    I'll probbly get dogged cuz it "only" pushes 27CFM, but if you ask me, thats fine...

    If I were you, I'd get the AMD system I e-mailed you in the word doc...Thats what I'd do, its fits what everyone thinks, 160GB HD, 1GB ram, 9700 pro....Personally I think its ideal for what you want.
    Those prices in that system are also the lowest I could find, and google offers 2-day Free/$.50/$1 Fedex Air, on most of they're stuff...;) And alot of what I listed, came from google.
  7. ---agissi---

    ---agissi--- TechSpot Paladin Posts: 2,382   +15

    I had to bend 1 capicitor the slightest bit...It fits just fine :grinthumb
  8. acidosmosis

    acidosmosis TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 1,574

    Awesome Agissi. I am purchasing the A7N8X and SLK-900 for my next PC. It's nice to know didnt have a problem.
  9. XtR-X

    XtR-X Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 1,040

    Ok, that's reassuring.

    Yeah, that thing is pretty good (what you sent me) but I am going to change to a different case and will have to buy another PSU.

    Also, since the processor is 400mhz FSB, and the motherboard supports 400mhz FSB and PC3200, I'm gonna go with PC 3200.

    That case isn't much of my style really... I really like the Antec cases, 1000 series, etc.
  10. XtR-X

    XtR-X Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 1,040

    Btw, newegg.com and googlegear.com have very similar prices. Sometimes newegg is cheaper, and somtimes googlegear is cheaper. Take the 3200+ for example, the retail version is cheaper at newegg than googlegear.

    Why do I buy retail versions of processors?
    In case something is wrong with the heatsink/fan I buy addittionally, I hate sending stuff back and getting nailed with restocking and shiping and having to wait to test a sucker out (has happened to me in the past, I'm just unlucky alot). I'm just hoping I have enough luck bending that one capaciter.

    Also, I'm posting all the system specs revised by tomorrow, just to get it a little feedback before I make the purchase.
  11. ---agissi---

    ---agissi--- TechSpot Paladin Posts: 2,382   +15

    your right, newegg and googlegear to have similar prices. I normally get OEM cpus....plus, most the time with cpus, you cant even refund them. Some times its better paying the $5 more at googlegear, beacause of that 2day free/$1 air ;)

    About the capactior, seriously, you merely bend it.
     
  12. JSR

    JSR Banned Posts: 730

    is your first name andre'

    hehe..........
  13. XtR-X

    XtR-X Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 1,040

    OK LOL!

    Is my first name Andre? No.

    Is agissi's first name Andre? I don't think so... at least that's not the name from the e-mail he sent me.
  14. ---agissi---

    ---agissi--- TechSpot Paladin Posts: 2,382   +15

    LOL...i used to use "agissi" as my internet name...now I go by "Bucky" on the net..

    You know what my real name is cuz I e-mail you (girls name n' all)

    I made my e-mail address along time ago, and wont change it cuz its a pain for other peeps...

    and I made this TS account along time ago.

    look @ my sigs, all Bucky ;)
  15. XtR-X

    XtR-X Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 1,040

    Ok, here it is! The moment you've all been waiting for (I doubt it)!

    Please check this out and tell me what you think! Especially you, agissi.

    Click here to see the doc
  16. XtR-X

    XtR-X Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 1,040

    So you mean you're a girl?
  17. acidosmosis

    acidosmosis TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 1,574

    Oh, btw if you guys bend a capacitor I would make sure that it doesnt end up touching anything else, including the heatsink or other capacitors.
  18. acidosmosis

    acidosmosis TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 1,574

    I checked out the .doc file.

    First question is your going to be using 3 sticks of 512MB? That's what it showed in the file. One stick + a twin pack of the same stick equalling 3 sticks.

    Also you while you still have a day or two you might want to spend a lot of time checking out benchmarks for the AMD processors. 2800+, 3000+, etc and see what the differences are. Maybe check out what kind of FPS people are getting with those processors and the Radeon 9700 Pro.

    Oh and check out this website www.frozencpu.com
    They have some nice ATA cables you may want to take a look at, including a ton of other things.

    I have these two ATA cables in my PC:
    http://www.frozencpu.com/cgi-bin/frozencpu/rsc-10.html
    http://www.frozencpu.com/cgi-bin/frozencpu/rsc-13.html
    (dont really remember which size I got though)
    They have a lot of nice stuff, they will answer any questions you have, package everything perfectly, and are really nice guys on the phone. They are a tiny bit more expensive than everyone else but its all worth it for the great service. You can check out things there and get great pictures/specs and then go find a good price for it elsewhere. I dont normally see a lot of what they have ANYWHERE.
     
  19. JSR

    JSR Banned Posts: 730

    it was a joke

    andre' agissi.............andre' agassi........get it...........hehe.........but, now that i know your gender.......:wave:.......now for you xtrx........brilliant deduction........hehe..........consider the 3000+ instead............because of the multiplier difference........the 3000+ can be clocked higher than the 3200+........your memory, board, cpu combo would be significantly less............throwing extra cash towards a top flight video card
  20. ---agissi---

    ---agissi--- TechSpot Paladin Posts: 2,382   +15

    Xtr-X & JSR: No, Im a guy, with a girls name (Shh!) :blackeye:

    yeah man, you have an extra 512MB stick in there. Keep the "CORSAIR MEMORY XMS Extreme Memory Speed Series, Low Latency (Twin Pack) 1GB(2 x 512MB) 2x(64MX64) PC-3200LL With Black Heat Spreader.Retail" (the one that costs $291).

    Also, I would ditch that case, and get this one (same price :grinthumb ):

    http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProduct.asp?description=11-133-002&depa=0

    Your also getting ripped off on your fans. Checkout this badass special at case-mod:
    http://www.case-mod.com/store/product_info.php?cPath=28_29&products_id=279

    Cant beat that price eh? And read the reviews ;) I just ordered 8 of those, for the PC im building!

    Back to your RAM, your getting ripped off by $40, get this(same thing but from googlegear):
    http://www.googlegear.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=80060-15

    --

    Acid, I've looked at benchies, the 3200+ is the only athlon out with the 400MHz FSB, it really holds up, as it beats the P4 3.06 in most tests ;)

    Other then that, a very nice PC. That readon 9700 you have there to order, I just got that dilevered to my house today, nice board. Once they case arrives, assembly time :D

    About the capisitors on the heatsink, they arnt toutching, just very close. Shouldnt be a problem...
  21. JSR

    JSR Banned Posts: 730

    now that we cleared that up

    your secret's safe with us...........but, i mean it...........the timings on the 3200+........differ from the 3000+..........and allows the 3000+ to clock higher than the 3200+..........you can get a 3000+ to go from 2.2 to 3.6 gig..............if you can believe that...........the 3200+ can make it to 3.2.............and, the 3000+ also comes with the 400fsb @ around 275 bucks........not that the higher fsb makes all that great a difference in amd cpus'..........would send that 9700 back..........and get the 9800...........128 meg version............as it doesn't vary greatly from the 9800 @256 ddr..............what's the spread between the cards.........50 bucks?.........
  22. ---agissi---

    ---agissi--- TechSpot Paladin Posts: 2,382   +15

    hes not gonna be o/c'ing that 3000 u kno (maybe...). I couldnt find a 3000 with a 400Mhz FSB :p also, the 9800 is merely greater over the 9800, defently not worth the extra $100. The 9800 256MB version is $500!!! maybe if u can get a 3000+ with a 400MHz FSB, it would be worth getting that then the 3200 if it costs $275, compared to ~$450... But I dont think you can get the 3000 in 400MHz fsb conditions, come on JSR...............................................................Prove me rong :D Other wise get the 3200+, it is worth it, the uped-fsb speeds do make quite a diffrence.
  23. JSR

    JSR Banned Posts: 730

    ok sweetie

    monarchcomputer.com............see for yourself............amd cpus........and merely greater?........c'mon..........i wouldn't shortchange myself here.........remember, it was i who answered your dual channel questions
  24. ---agissi---

    ---agissi--- TechSpot Paladin Posts: 2,382   +15

  25. XtR-X

    XtR-X Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 1,040

    I doubt it, it must be a typo or something. They'res no such thing as a XP 3000+ with 400FSB retail/oem from producers without overclocking.

    Yeah, there's 3 sticks of RAM, 1 single, and 1 doublepack.

    Hell no with the thermaltake! I hate that case and its guts! Thats the case I assembled my first comp in (for my friend who payed me)! Not only that, it's the most unorganized wire spazzing case on the planet! The damn sidefan door has a horrible arrangement and the case weighs a little over 40 pounds! I go to LAN parties at least once a week, hell no, my back would be broken by then! Also, I wanna be a little different from his wire spazing case. Wire tieing and organizing is nearly impossible! I hate that case, it's horrible!

    I'm not getting ripped off on my RAM, I want PC3200, not PC2700.
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