Global Warming

There's a ccmpany somewhere in south Cali that is tryng to introduce batter powered cars, saw it on the discovery channel, car goes 0-60 in 5 seconds, top speed of 140, and you can get 240 mles on a single charge

I think a method to fixing this problem would be better public transportation. That would reduce inflation and emmisions.

Plus people could buy more efficient cars, or the government could even replace all "bad" cars with more fuel efficient ones for free. Then use all the old cars for scrap. We could use ethy gas.

We don't use coal or other methods for energy that realeses emmisions.

We go to mars . Sorry just for humor.

Where's the proof that this is coming from only us :suspiciou? No one knows "for sure" if you know what I mean. You also have to remember we are recovering from an ice age after all . I don't know what I believe right now .

this whole global warming bit is a crock. So what if it is getting a little bit warmer?
(Just means I might be able to get beach front property cheap!!)

1. We are leaving an ice age.
2. The earth has been A LOT hotter in the past before man ever came on the scene.
3. The SUN can cause drastic changes in climate quickly. We are in an increased solar activity period.
4. It has been proven that cattle farts (methane) are more polluting than automobile exhaust.

I don't buy into this liberal social crap agenda where we must all live in huts, wear grass skirts, and grunt at each other.

Tedster...I kind of agree. I would totally, but I need to research global warming further (not by watching Al Gore's movie though ).

We have to do something. Global warming is real. Anyone who claims there is no proof, take a trip to Alaska or Iceland. People there will tell you how much glaciers have receded in the past 20 years. They have never seen anything like this ever.
Fuel conservation can not be voluntary. Government and global agreements have to step in and take action. Our government in the US has been unwilling to set limits, because it will affect business and indirectly the economy. Besides messing with alternate fuels like the hydrogen cell, they could take steps right now. They could mandate higher fuel mileage on cars and trucks. They can limit engine size and add significant road tax to larger engines. That will get the SUVs vans and pickup trucks off the road. I could go into a whole thing about pickup trucks and male/advertisement fantasy, but I'll leave that for another time. They could build nuclear power plants, etc.
There is a limit as to how much abuse the earth and it's resources can stand.

Did you read tedsters post?

The facts are, as co2 emissions increase, so does the temperature of the earth. In the last 400 thousand years (until about 1900) the highest ppmv (Co2 concentration) was about 300 at the peak of any ice age cycle. From 1900 to the present day that number has jumped to 400, the highest co2 concentration in 400 thousand years.

It's sad to see people that are in denial of this; and even worse to see people that think this has to do with politics. Once you step out of your hummer, maybe you will realize, that this is a problem.

I never said that is wasn't real. I want to see proven, theoretic evidence that proves this. The polar ice caps have been melting since the end of the ice age....we just started looking at them in the past few years since the worrying started.

That post wasn't directed to anyone specifically.





Perfect, perfect description

That isn't very small, when you look at what it has done, and what it will do. As glaciers melt, instead of the light reflecting off them, there will be no glaciers, and the heat will be absorbed into the earth. Also, water evaporation levels are increasing, cause more chaotic weather patterns. Winter, isn't winter some places, summer, isn't summer places. This is causing migratory patterns of birds to be effected, which plays a huge role in are ecosystem. Water levels are rising, pretty soon arizona is going to have a beach.

I am not going to convince someone that global warming exists. Luckily for most of the members here they wont have to worry about it in there life time. But, to just disregard is just plain ignorant.

The graphics are impressive, but the source doesn't seem to be quoted.

Was Katrina passable as a freak incident ?

The enormous damage makes one wonder.

Anyway, this might be better in the jokes thread.

A few weeks ago a gentleman had this to say in critism of the Airbus 380(not quoted) :

The Airbus 380 is more economical. The reduced cost of flying will lead to more air passengers. This in turn will increase pollution.

BTW, it's funny because it was on either BBC WORLD or CNN International (those are the only two international new channels provided by our cable guy)

Yeh, i realize that. Last year chicago had the warmest winter on summer, this year Tucson had one of the coldest winters on record. As a matter of fact it snowed for the first time in 25+ years.

I won't quote anyone because i don't want this thread to turn ugly.

Yeh, i agree with you, but that doesn't mean we can't help the cause. Any way you look at pollution isn't good. Whether it's because its a key factor to global warming, or because being in mexico city for 1 day is equivalent to smoking 2 packs of cigs, what we are doing to are environment isnt good.

Source was NAS, National Academy of Science.

Thanks, twite.

global warming, i don't believe it, and never have.

I'm starting not to as well......earth has it's spikes in weather; as I've said earlier, we are coming out of an ice age....not to mention the fact that the earth used to be pretty much a huge ball of lava !

Back to the issue. The thing is yes the Globe is getting warmer. Carbon dioxide is not the reason why this is happening though. The Globe is getting warmer but this is not due to the carbon dioxide that we humans are generating.

Those who don't agree with this don't need to worry the media/government worlwide are all going to be singing the same song day in day out. Everyone is going to be pushed "to eat their greens".

However there are other environmental issuse which are important which do need addressing. For example waste/inefficiency the pollution of seas etc. So it doesnt mean all environmental issues are non-existent.

Another thing I would like to say is about left/right political paradigms. Everything is being turned into a left/right issue I think they're both complete nonsense. They are both the cheeks of the same bottom in my opinion. It's all a joke. Watch out for this in the media, it happens all the time.

Those who missed the link to the video documentary can watch it here:

The Great Global Warming Swindle.

people make offensive remarks when anyone dares to question or disagree to the contrary of their beliefs.
there is evidence that "global warming", has nothing to do with carbons.
patterns of weather change from ice age and midi ice age. and more recent, just after WW2. industry boomed, carbon emissions were high, yet the weather got colder. that is only a snippet, there is much more proof, and i believe that this went on until the seventies and from there it warmed up.

it's the cycle of life.

but isn't it a great way to stop 3rd world countries advancing in industry, and for governments to increase and invent taxes?
it is also a bandwagon for some people that need to grind their axe.

http://www.qando.net/details.aspx?Entry=3056 there's more!