The only big Navi benchmark we've supposedly seen (I actually like how secretive AMD is being this cycle, makes for bigger suspense and keeps eNVydia guessing) showed it was 17% faster than the FASTEST 2080Ti, not the stock one like the comparison here, so it's in the same ballpark. I really don't care if Big Navi is faster as long as it's close and costs a reasonable amount, rather than the redonkulous pricing we have right now. It's not as bad as the mining craze daze, but it needs to improve. $280 for a 1080p 60Hz everything maxed GPU is not OK.
Leaked Nvidia RTX 3090 benchmark score shows performance up to 26% faster than RTX 2080 Ti
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amghwk
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Unfortunately, people blindly buy the most expensive while much cheaper options exist which give similar performance. A single or double digit lead in benchmarks don't translate to real-world noticeable difference.
I guess wasters will be wasters.
Competition is always good for the last consumer - us (gamers)... ?
Agreed on the clickbaity headline, uncharacteristic of our coverage.
Tnx mate, I'm just a new guy here and I'm from Serbia ??, the land of most expensive gaming hardware in the world... Yeah, seriously, much expensive than in US, UK, Germany, France, Holland, Sweden, Australia, Japan etc...
And of course - God morning from the Serbia ?
Yeah, totally right...
Isn't it supposed to have better RT capabilities (not just from increased general performance)?
I wonder what say a 30% 3d mark performance increase means in games? When I overclock my 2080ti to the max (1650mhz gaming setting increased to 1780mhz) my 3d mark score goes up a lot but I actually only get a frame or two extra in most games at 4K.
Irata
Posts: 2,288 +4,002
I found that comment rather pointless myself. This would only apply to the few mentally challenged Wccf troll fanboys with multiple aliases. After all, this is not sports or a religion but we are talking about a consumer product.
What are the possible cases ?
AMD can‘t compete on the top but still has good enough cards - that should mean cheaper Radeon cards for those who are so inclined, but still expensive top end Geforce cards.
AMD can compete in all tiers - best case scenario as that should mean cheaper Geforce and Radeon cards with better specs across the entire spectrum, so win-win for consumers.
Either way, it seems RDNA2 will be competitive if the rumored Geforce spec upgrades are true. And what‘s not to like about it since this would mean GPU as they should be (I.e. what was released as „Super“ series for the current gen) right from the start.
Note: Don‘t care who gets the crown as long as there is a reasonably priced choice with good performance and features.
kmo911
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Still rtx tiatan are the fps buster. so getting a old tec like rtx 20xx ti would be bad ? buying a gtx 980 or gtx 1080 ti could still be nice low rts gameplay. the price on rtx .vs amd gpus are to exspesive.
getting a 30xx ti gpu would be about 1000 0 more ine cash spent like amd gpus are non exspensive as a exsample https://www.amazon.com/s?k=amd+gpu+radeon+5700+xt&crid=3SQN0QH00Z5UX&sprefix=amd+gpu,aps,257&ref=nb_sb_ss_i_3_7
.vs.
https://www.amazon.com/s?k=nvidia+gpu&ref=nb_sb_noss_1
so a pcie 4.0 arcitecture would be much faster then pcie 3.0 x16 ever. but the handeling of a pcie 4.0 on 3.0 would be mindless to use withouth a pci 4.0 gpu card and a nmve ssd disk with 4.o speed.
just a tought. debating fine but this is just a try out. try out a nvidia pcie 3.0 in a pcie 4.0 slot. x570 only mb
and microsoft needing a big patch to fix those strange nvidia ati intel freezing screen black out. STRANGE things may happen but you are the USER thron.
getting a 30xx ti gpu would be about 1000 0 more ine cash spent like amd gpus are non exspensive as a exsample https://www.amazon.com/s?k=amd+gpu+radeon+5700+xt&crid=3SQN0QH00Z5UX&sprefix=amd+gpu,aps,257&ref=nb_sb_ss_i_3_7
.vs.
https://www.amazon.com/s?k=nvidia+gpu&ref=nb_sb_noss_1
so a pcie 4.0 arcitecture would be much faster then pcie 3.0 x16 ever. but the handeling of a pcie 4.0 on 3.0 would be mindless to use withouth a pci 4.0 gpu card and a nmve ssd disk with 4.o speed.
just a tought. debating fine but this is just a try out. try out a nvidia pcie 3.0 in a pcie 4.0 slot. x570 only mb
and microsoft needing a big patch to fix those strange nvidia ati intel freezing screen black out. STRANGE things may happen but you are the USER thron.
Jerry in WA
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6800 Ultra ----> 7900gtx ----> 8800gtx.
Now those were the days. It's the reason we old folks can't seem to let go of the idea of 100%+ performance gains in a single card generation. We had it twice in the span of about 3 years.
Now those were the days. It's the reason we old folks can't seem to let go of the idea of 100%+ performance gains in a single card generation. We had it twice in the span of about 3 years.
Vulcanproject
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No way to tell what this is right now.
Assuming Nvidia drop the Ti tag for the consumer flagship and call it a 3090 instead, there is every chance this could indeed just be the 3080. In which case 26 percent faster IS impressive if there is more to come.
Not least because that would also suggest another card lower like a proposed 3070 would end up as fast as the 2080Ti give or take.
Assuming Nvidia drop the Ti tag for the consumer flagship and call it a 3090 instead, there is every chance this could indeed just be the 3080. In which case 26 percent faster IS impressive if there is more to come.
Not least because that would also suggest another card lower like a proposed 3070 would end up as fast as the 2080Ti give or take.
Jerry in WA
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Another possibility: This is the 3090 being benched, but it's not the top card "for gamers". This is the productivity card that will cost $3-$4K (or whatever). If you look at the (presumed) specs for the upcoming cards, the 3090 is clocked significantly lower than the 3080Ti. It's even clocked lower than a 3080. It's entirely possible the 3080Ti will knock our socks off.
GPU speed in BOLD (specs not confirmed)
Product Name ...Memory/GPU clock/Memory clock/Shaders / TMUs / ROPs
GeForce RTX 3080 ....10 GB, 320 bit/1535 MHz/1750 MHz/4352 / 272 / 88
GeForce RTX 3080 Ti 12 GB, 384 bit/1905 MHz/1750 MHz/5248 / 328 / 96
GeForce RTX 3090 ....24 GB, 384 bit/1410 MHz/1750 MHz/5376 / 336 / 96
From: TechPowerUp GPU database
GPU speed in BOLD (specs not confirmed)
Product Name ...Memory/GPU clock/Memory clock/Shaders / TMUs / ROPs
GeForce RTX 3080 ....10 GB, 320 bit/1535 MHz/1750 MHz/4352 / 272 / 88
GeForce RTX 3080 Ti 12 GB, 384 bit/1905 MHz/1750 MHz/5248 / 328 / 96
GeForce RTX 3090 ....24 GB, 384 bit/1410 MHz/1750 MHz/5376 / 336 / 96
From: TechPowerUp GPU database
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Rdmetz
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Word is ray tracing performance will see a 4x improvement so combined with a general ~30% increase in performance its going to be a monster and I'm sure will still continue to dominate above anything amd can muster. And will continue its $1000+ pricing unimpeded.
It's good with me I just sold my $150 2080ti for $1000 a couple weeks ago so I'm all ready to drop the bucks to see those kind of improvements (along with HDMI 2.1 which I've been needing for almost a year now).
JamesBlond
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Would be nice to see the New Intel GPU's with a bit more power and less price... tired of Nvidia dominating the prices
Rdmetz
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The 2080 ti could easily be obtained for well under 1200 and as low as 999 which based on how often the 999 cards were sold out is what most people who bought them spent.
I myself only paid 1150 and I just sold it a few weeks ago for 1000 so I don't think I did so bad having top tier graphics for almost 2 years and moving the majority of that investment into the next generation.
Rdmetz
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Well that WAS true but last time with RTX BOTH the 2080 AND 2080 ti released day one so you can't hold that train of thought anymore and it's just as likely to be called a 3090 as it's a 3080 or a 3080ti. Until we see other cards of various levels of performance we don't know exactly which one we are looking at here. Could a the titan for all we know. My money is on the 3080 and we will see even higher performance than this with the truly "flagship" card.
Rdmetz
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Just depends on your wife mine allowed me to buy 2x 1080ti in 2017 and upgrade to the 2080 ti in 2018.
Rdmetz
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Well if all you care about is top tier performance then for the better part of a decade there has been only 1 choice. Amd hasn't even competed in that segment since the 7990. I was RADEON from the 90's all the way up to the point I wanted to start chasing 4k (when I got a 4k screen on 2013) and they've never been in that bracket ever since I've been stuck with Nvidia out of necessity ever since. I'd be happy to switch back if they could only actually deliver a card in competition with Nvidia's best.
I'm now chasing 4k/120 and I doubt they'll have anything that could even get me close. But we shall see.
Rdmetz
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You do realize AMD entire model has been to chase Nvidia's mod tier products and instead of offering the same performance or a little less but with significant savings they've just been pricing themselves relative to how much lower in performance and offering no real "value" over Nvidia (especially when they turn around and price cut to match).
Call me when they have a card within 10% of Nvidia's best but 30% or lower cost.
MaxSmarties
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My wife is ok with me spending a lot of money on my "toys" LOL
BTW your 1080Ti still is a very fast card, quite similar to an RTX 2070 Super, so I don't think you have to buy anything too soon.
MaxSmarties
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... in slides ... we are speaking about a real benchmark here.
And "performance per watt" improvements are quite a marketing trick. We need to see actual game performance from the "mythical RDNA2", because quite often AMD over-promise and under-deliver in GPUs.
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