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Pinterest has a better male-to-female workforce ratio, but lags in ethnic diversity

  1. Pinterest has revealed that its 300-strong workforce is 60 percent male and 40 percent female. The revelation came as part of the diversity report that the company announced yesterday.

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  2. jackal2687

    jackal2687 TS Enthusiast Posts: 85   +12

    When these numbers come out, they are a disgrace to equality. Businesses should hire whomever is most qualified for the job and the factor of sex or ethnicity shouldn't even be a on the resume.
     
  3. davislane1

    davislane1 TS Evangelist Posts: 3,547   +2,346

    Please, enough with the diversity nonsense. There are only four types of people who care about diversity:

    (1) Actual racists
    (2) Ignoramuses
    (3) Race pimps
    (4) Feminists

    For all the manufactured shock that's assigned to diversity in the tech world, I am surprised nobody has pointed out the clear gender bias and racism practiced by streaming porn networks. As I'm sure anyone not playing innocent has noticed, the overwhelming, vast and inescapable majority of content they host depicts white females. Where's the equal representation for minorities? Homosexuals? ...Hermaphrodites and the gender confused?!

    Now, I'm sure you're wondering why I would use porn as an example of a lack of diversity. Simply, because it illustrates how ****ing 5tupid these statistics are. It's also more than a little ironic that a so-called post-racial West actually takes the time to record such figures, let alone analyze them.

    What's important are functional, satisfactory products and services, not diversity quotas.

    /end rant
     
  4. AfroHarbinger

    AfroHarbinger TS Rookie

    Fact: People hire people like themselves (Google it). So if you have no minorities at your company you are not as likely to hire minorities at your company which means that minorities (like myself) even when qualified spend far more time trying to find a job than others.

    So yes in a perfect unicorn-populated world ignore race. But in this world where our subconscious biases affect our decision-making processes there is a need to make a positive effort to ensure diversity. Otherwise it might not ever happen and a group of people may be disadvantaged unintentionally.
     
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  5. Skidmarksdeluxe

    Skidmarksdeluxe TS Evangelist Posts: 6,490   +2,040

    So why are these companies suddenly publishing these figures now? Are they compelled to do so by law? If not why bother publishing at all? They're not the most interesting articles.
    It's pretty clear that most people say gender, colour ethnicity etc. doesn't count as long as that individual is suitably qualified for the position otherwise show them the door and I agree with that.
     
  6. cmbjive

    cmbjive TS Booster Posts: 777   +137

    Can we do a diversity report on the reporters and techies for TechSpot?
     
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  7. yRaz

    yRaz TS Evangelist Posts: 1,898   +941

    I own a masonry company, I only hire people with masonry experience. I have never had a woman apply to work with me. I employ 7 white men, 3 mexican men and one black man. I live in new england in a predominantly white city. Am I racist because most of my workforce is white? No. In fact the percentage of mexicans I have working for me is higher than that of the local population. ~30% of my workforce is mexican while they make up about 2% of my cities population. Blacks make up about 10% of the local population.

    These statistics are hogwash and anyone trying to give an honest analysis of said hogwash is instantly called racist.

    The people actively trying not to be racist are just as racist as those screaming obscenities in the street. If you treat anyone differently because of their race, good or bad, you're a racist.
     
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  8. Heihachi1337

    Heihachi1337 TS Rookie Posts: 49   +11

    Why should anyone care if a company is forced to hire tokens?
    The only thing that should really ever matter is if the person is qualified for the job or not. Skin color, sexual preference, gender, etc. shouldn't ever f***ing matter. I only care if people are hired that know WTF they are doing.
    All this "diversity" nonsense does for a company is force them to hire people that have no business what-so-ever in their business.
     
  9. So they are racist even though they hire so many Asians? Since when did white racists start embracing Asians.
     
  10. AnonymousSurfer

    AnonymousSurfer TS Guru Posts: 451   +37

    Requiring companies to hire more people of a certain race or gender just extends racial inequality in America. Hiring should be based on experience and qualifications for the job. To force a company with predominantly men to start hiring women because there is a gender gap is just creating more inequality for other men applying with more work experience and qualifications. Same can be said for jobs that have many women compared to men. The idea of trying to force equality is just causing more inequality in the workforce and is not helping advance industries and technology.
     
  11. Wagan8r

    Wagan8r TS Evangelist Posts: 595   +52

    Even if these companies wanted a perfect split of males to females, and equal percentages of ethnicity (a rather nebulous term as it is) it would be impossible to do so. There are simply not enough people to fill the positions, and it is no blemish to the company that there exist no individuals to hire. Hiring based on gender or race is bigotry. We can never move past racism or sexism if we keep caring about such fripperies.
     
  12. This is the second or so diversity article ive read on here. this article states blacks and hispanics are on the bottom as did the first one I read. is it not possible blacks and mexicans arent doing a good enough job when it comes to being the best qualified person for the job? seriously.......businesses are about making money and thats all they care about so they hire the people who they feel will make them the most money it has nothing to do with skin colo
     
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  13. captaincranky

    captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 11,693   +1,880

    Well, sometimes race, gender, or sexual orientation is used a defense by those who can't perform "X" job at the expected proficiency.

    In other words, "discrimination" can be used ostensibly as an manipulative tool in the eventual lawsuit that might erupt following the dismissal of a "minority" employee.

    More simply put, so what if I can't do the job, you're still discriminating against me by firing me.

    In any case, sociologists have developed a way, or more correctly, "a terminology", which allows people to be racist. They coined the term, "ethnocentric". This is a diluted form of racism, in which I simply like my ethnicity more than I like yours.

    So now, I've taken to countering charges of being a racist by countering with, "I'm not a racist ****** ******, I'm an ethnocentrist, now **** ***"!! :mad:
     
  14. EClyde

    EClyde TS Guru Posts: 706   +181

    I work with mostly girls, about 10 and 1 guy at my job. I don't know any guys on Pinterest. Most of the girls are on Pinterest and I know this because they talk of it frequently. If the 60% of guys are doing such a good job.... what's the rumpus? The users don't care as long as the content is there. What a pile of stink.
     
  15. cliffordcooley

    cliffordcooley TS Guardian Fighter Posts: 8,554   +2,894

    I'm with everyone else, this is getting old.
     
  16. "davislane1 said:
    Please, enough with the diversity nonsense. There are only four types of people who care about diversity:

    (1) Actual racists

    (2) Ignoramuses

    (3) Race pimps

    (4) Feminists

    For all the manufactured shock that's assigned to diversity in the tech world, I am surprised nobody has pointed out the clear gender bias and racism practiced by streaming porn networks. As I'm sure anyone not playing innocent has noticed, the overwhelming, vast and inescapable majority of content they host depicts white females. Where's the equal representation for minorities? Homosexuals? ...Hermaphrodites and the gender confused?!

    Now, I'm sure you're wondering why I would use porn as an example of a lack of diversity. Simply, because it illustrates how ****ing 5tupid these statistics are. It's also more than a little ironic that a so-called post-racial West actually takes the time to record such figures, let alone analyze them.

    What's important are functional, satisfactory products and services, not diversity quotas.

    /end rant"




    Agree 1000%....

    These type stats are for the entitled...

    Whom ever is best for the job rightly should get the job! No matter if they are green or not...
     
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  17. Nobina

    Nobina TS Evangelist Posts: 849   +336

    Even if they had 100 percent male white men, I still wouldn't care and neither should anyone.
     
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  18. Jack Meoffski

    Jack Meoffski TS Booster Posts: 49   +35

    Not hiring white people because of their race is raciest. Companies want to be the best and usually will hire people based on qualifications. If that means that 90% happens to be Asian or Black then so be it! Just like with Hockey and Basketball.

    If you want to stop racism then stop dividing people based on race.
     
  19. Jack Meoffski

    Jack Meoffski TS Booster Posts: 49   +35

    I agree. These political correct people need to shove it!

    "I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character."

    Martin Luther King, Jr.
     
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  20. Sarcasm

    Sarcasm TS Guru Posts: 347   +26

    Right, so let's just forget having qualified people for the job and look at hiring specific ethnic races instead.
     
  21. ddg4005

    ddg4005 TS Guru Posts: 362   +49

    Why all the anger over this topic? And please don't tell me it's because this is some initiative to push so-called minorities in the tech industry.
     
  22. davislane1

    davislane1 TS Evangelist Posts: 3,547   +2,346

    People are tried of the Diversity™ narrative and the politics that define it. For the better part of a decade (late 90s to mid 00s), the average Joe remained more or less silent on the issue, naively thinking that ignoring it would make it go away. This misguided tolerance has more or less enabled it to morph into the political equivalent of Cloverfield, in recent years.

    So, instead of demonstrating insanity and continuing to engage in non-confrontational dialogue (which includes remaining silent), we're "enthusiastically" voicing our disapproval of and hostility towards the Diversity™ narrative. Once it becomes clear that Diversity™ politics are not popular, but are, in fact, overwhelmingly condemned, general content providers will stop publishing the nonsense and focus on real topics.
     
  23. ddg4005

    ddg4005 TS Guru Posts: 362   +49

    Just so I'm clear: are you tired of the topic popping up on tech sites like this one or do you have an issue with diversity in general? Because, frankly speaking, the knee-jerk reactions and posts about diversity have become even more tiresome.
     
  24. davislane1

    davislane1 TS Evangelist Posts: 3,547   +2,346

    Note that I capitalized and trademarked 'Diversity™'. Whenever I do this, I am speaking specifically about the political construct of the term in question.

    It is not simply its appearance on tech websites that I and others find bothersome. The problem we have is that Diversity™ has extended its various appendages into every major area of discussion and is abused in each arena, to the detriment of everyone. It is a pervasive political contrivance that, rather than solving problems, creates them.

    Furthermore, what you've observed here aren't knee-jerk reactions. Diversity™ politics have been played for decades. Only recently have people begun aggressively voicing their hostility towards it in large number. If anything, it demonstrates that the Diversity™ crowd has finally used up their generous stipend of Tolerance Tokens. It simply isn't knee-jerk to have one's patients worn thin.
     
  25. ddg4005

    ddg4005 TS Guru Posts: 362   +49

    There's nothing wrong with a diverse workforce, especially since the complexion of the US population is changing. The issue lies in qualified people of color and women who are denied jobs because of their skin color or sex and let's not pretend this does not happen. It's disingenuous to state that diversity is problem when discrimination is something experienced by many qualified individuals who are not white males.
     

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