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Thoughts on Vista/What is Your Problem With Vista

By SNGX1275
Mar 29, 2007
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  1. cfitzarl

    cfitzarl TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,520   +9

    I became a "PC Enthusiast" about 2 years ago, when I was 14....after the Xp launch :D. I know the launch was bad due to reading about it in ancient threads here :grinthumb !
  2. Rage_3K_Moiz

    Rage_3K_Moiz Sith Lord Posts: 7,286   +24

    Vista is quite good and a real improvement over XP if you're a general computer user who just uses it to surf the Web, check email, play music, that sorta thing. But if you're a serious gamer, avoid using it at all. It eats RAM for breakfast (and lunch and dinner! =P) and has horrible compatibility issues with most games out there. I installed it and used it for a week and even with my system, I had surprisingly laggy performance in FEAR and at least 3 BSODs a day. Stick with XP in that case because (hopefully) Microsoft will still continue to release updates and patches for it.
  3. RamenNoodles

    RamenNoodles TS Rookie Posts: 108

    I think Vista looks really neat and all and is definitely more appealing than XP is. But I installed Vista Ultimate from my XP and had nothing but problems there on out. I installed it and was unable to play BF2 and had problems with networking as well. Since I game alot, I just reinstalled XP and am still having problems because of VIsta being installed. Windows Lagging issues, sound issues, and random program errors now that I changed up OS'

    I do think that they did copy alot off of mac. Check this videoout
  4. cfitzarl

    cfitzarl TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,520   +9

    There are many patches for PC Games + Vista...since there are some compatibility issues.
  5. pizzada

    pizzada TS Rookie Posts: 108

    Vista and M.E.

    Well, even Bill Gates acknowledged Win M.E. for the nightmare' that it was.

    Tedster makes a fair point on that, and here is a thread that addresses M.E., and a short movie showing Bill Gates personal encounter with the B.S.O.D.(blue screen of death) in front of a large audience:

    http://www.techspot.com/vb/topic12850.html


    Why buy/install Vista until you need it?

    Is it possible that M$ will conceive of a way to 'make' us need it?? :suspiciou
  6. RamenNoodles

    RamenNoodles TS Rookie Posts: 108

  7. korrupt

    korrupt TS Rookie Posts: 1,060

    I've been using Vista Ultimate on my very basic laptop for a week or so now, and have absolutely no problems with it. Aero is turned off however due to my laptop not meeting the minimum requirements. Yet even with Aero turned off, its much easier to use, better looking, more functional, and even a fair bit faster than XP.

    Havnt installed any games or anything yet, but everything seems to work perfect.

    It seems I'm the only one without complaints though
  8. mikescorpio81

    mikescorpio81 TS Rookie Posts: 574

    Vista is quite nice, graphic wise. Basic functionality hasn't changed that much from XP which is nice.

    The problem is of course that it is coming standard on most new PC's and it is harder to find pre-installed XP Pro these days. The fact that Microsoft released Vista knowing that most vendors will not have drivers ready in time is dissapointing. Programs such as Bloomberg and AutoCAD do not work and are essential for alot of my clients. MYOB works though ... lucky! Can you imagine the complaints?!

    I have sucessfully downgraded 1 PC, an IBM Lenovo ThinkCentre Tower PC, which had XP drivers readily available from their website (god bless em'!). Sony, on the other hand, has NO XP drivers as yet for their notebooks that come pre-installed with Vista.

    For a 4GB+ OS install it amazes me that all the drivers XP Pro has was not included with Vista!

    I do like Vista though, and I think by about 09 it should be close to the standard OS worldwide. But I will not buy a copy myself until SP1 is released, which in theory should be HUGE! Crammed full of drivers and whatnot :grinthumb
  9. korrupt

    korrupt TS Rookie Posts: 1,060

    You can always dual boot, or set up two physical PC's... But I fully understand its not for everyone, though it sure looks champion:D
  10. Tedster

    Tedster Techspot old timer..... Posts: 10,074   +13

    so far, I am not impressed at all.
  11. SNGX1275

    SNGX1275 TS Forces Special Topic Starter Posts: 12,531   +300

    My graphics problems are now fixed.
     
  12. cfitzarl

    cfitzarl TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,520   +9

    Great, I'll try that out SNGX :D !
  13. Mictlantecuhtli

    Mictlantecuhtli TS Evangelist Posts: 4,916   +9

    I've installed Vista (x64 Ultimate) at work because I have to.

    I'm the system/network administrator in our company, so I have to make sure everything's working with the OS some others use, and to teach myself its quirks etc. in order to educate others.

    So far I haven't had major problems with it, and haven't seen incompatibilities with the few hardware devices and software applications we use.

    At home I had it installed on one old P3 machine, but I changed its mainboard to a dual-P3 one and Vista stopped booting. I haven't bothered to reinstall / repair it yet, it was only for testing networking.
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  14. cfitzarl

    cfitzarl TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,520   +9

    I'm sure Vista is really made for newer motherboards with newer CPU's in mind, since I'm not to certain that many P3 users would be comfortable with an OS like Vista on their computers...P3 being so outdated (top speed was 1.1GHz?).
  15. SNGX1275

    SNGX1275 TS Forces Special Topic Starter Posts: 12,531   +300

    Pentium 3s went to 1.4Ghz stock I believe. And were faster than the same clock speed Pentium 4s if I'm remembering correctly.
  16. cfitzarl

    cfitzarl TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,520   +9

    I was looking for a P3 replacement for one of my parents computers and all I could find were equal or <1.1GHz for some reason on Socket 370.
  17. IBN

    IBN TS Maniac Posts: 625

    I have been running Vista Ultimate edition and I like it alot. I havent had any driver issues/problems at all so far.There are alot of features which very useful.

    I would only bother with Vista if you are only going to go for the Ultimate edition, otherwise you wont see the full benefits.

    The price is waaay to high though which is a big turn off.

    PS
    Thank You Team Paradox!
  18. Envergure

    Envergure TS Enthusiast Posts: 154

  19. Mictlantecuhtli

    Mictlantecuhtli TS Evangelist Posts: 4,916   +9

    One of the things I don't like (aside from usual Windows behaviour) are slow file operations. It's not as slow as a couple of bytes a second, but certainly slower than the same operations in Linux or Server 2003.
  20. cfitzarl

    cfitzarl TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,520   +9

    I take it that you're a Mac user Mictlantecuhtli (spelled right :confused: ?) :D !
  21. raybay

    raybay TS Evangelist Posts: 10,716   +6

    Windows XP became remarkably stable after resolving problems created by Service Pack 2.
    Windows ME had problems that were never corrected, and the errors and difficulties that arose after a year of use were so astonishing that we remember them still. Microsoft never learned from the problems they created with Windows ME. It took security problems to clean their clock.
    We see some problems with VISTA upgrades, but clean installs are a step up from Windows XP. Still, I will not buy it for my own computers until the first Service Pack.
    There is absolutely no excuse for the high prices Microsoft gets for it... and no justification for the benefits that large corporations get, while individual users are treated like the debil.
  22. Phantasm66

    Phantasm66 TS Rookie Posts: 6,504   +6

    Just what is your problem with Vista?

    Reading some comments on the forums and the front page, a lot of folks seems to have negative opinions as regards Vista - is this true?

    I've been running Vista Ultimate on my (now aging) Thinkpad T42 for a while now, and have no complaints whatsoever. True, it took a bit of getting used to, I had to wait for some programs (like TrueCrypt) to be updated, but its a wonderful, clean and modern user experience - so why do so many people hate it?

    Reasons I am not prepared to accept:

    1) That it requires a "killer" machine with 2TB of RAM, 4 graphics cards, 2 dual-core processors and a massive hard drive. It does not. It runs just sweet on any computer that is relatively new. For older kit, you can turn Aero Glass off.

    2) That some things don't work yet - maybe so, but get over it, Vista is new. Anyone who has been into computing for a while will recall that it was the same with XP when it first came out, and 98, and 95, etc, etc... software and drivers take a little time to catch up, that's hardly Microsoft's fault.

    Actually, I have found that just about everything works just fine, you now and again have to run things as Administrator but as far as I am concerned that's the same in Linux as well.

    3) That its just XP with a new interface. Get a grip, do you know anything about computers at all? There's a whole host of changes that have been made, and welcome ones at that. XP is out of date and Vista has given Windows a much needed update.

    If you have anything negative (or otherwise) to say about it that's not 1), 2) or 3) then I'd love to hear it. Just what is people's problem???

    I'm no fan of Microsoft specifically - readers who know me (both from the forums and from posting on the front news page) will know that I embrace all computing and that I have been an advocate of Linux since its early days. But I think Microsoft have done a good job of Vista and a lot of the criticism seems unfounded IMHO.
  23. herr5407

    herr5407 TS Rookie Posts: 118

    I consider it bloatware because it seems like they just added a whole wack of useless stuff you don't need.

    I'll stick with XP until i forced to buy Vista when they discontinue supporting XP.
  24. Phantasm66

    Phantasm66 TS Rookie Posts: 6,504   +6

    Could you possibly provide some examples to back that claim up?
  25. herr5407

    herr5407 TS Rookie Posts: 118

    lol no.

    From the comments I hear from my friends, I've just decided to steer clear for a little while.

    They way I see it, its exactly like XP. It's very new so it's going to be buggy so I'll give it a little time and then upgrade.
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