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Thoughts on Vista/What is Your Problem With Vista

Discussion in 'Windows OS' started by SNGX1275, Mar 29, 2007.

  1. cfitzarl TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,521   +9

    I was looking for a P3 replacement for one of my parents computers and all I could find were equal or <1.1GHz for some reason on Socket 370.
  2. IBN TechSpot Maniac Posts: 624

    I have been running Vista Ultimate edition and I like it alot. I havent had any driver issues/problems at all so far.There are alot of features which very useful.

    I would only bother with Vista if you are only going to go for the Ultimate edition, otherwise you wont see the full benefits.

    The price is waaay to high though which is a big turn off.

    PS
    Thank You Team Paradox!
  3. Envergure Newcomer, in training Posts: 153

  4. Mictlantecuhtli TS Special Forces Posts: 4,916   +9

    One of the things I don't like (aside from usual Windows behaviour) are slow file operations. It's not as slow as a couple of bytes a second, but certainly slower than the same operations in Linux or Server 2003.
  5. cfitzarl TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,521   +9

    I take it that you're a Mac user Mictlantecuhtli (spelled right :confused: ?) :D !
  6. raybay TechSpot Evangelist Posts: 10,720   +6

    Windows XP became remarkably stable after resolving problems created by Service Pack 2.
    Windows ME had problems that were never corrected, and the errors and difficulties that arose after a year of use were so astonishing that we remember them still. Microsoft never learned from the problems they created with Windows ME. It took security problems to clean their clock.
    We see some problems with VISTA upgrades, but clean installs are a step up from Windows XP. Still, I will not buy it for my own computers until the first Service Pack.
    There is absolutely no excuse for the high prices Microsoft gets for it... and no justification for the benefits that large corporations get, while individual users are treated like the debil.
     
  7. Phantasm66 Newcomer, in training Posts: 6,504

    Just what is your problem with Vista?

    Reading some comments on the forums and the front page, a lot of folks seems to have negative opinions as regards Vista - is this true?

    I've been running Vista Ultimate on my (now aging) Thinkpad T42 for a while now, and have no complaints whatsoever. True, it took a bit of getting used to, I had to wait for some programs (like TrueCrypt) to be updated, but its a wonderful, clean and modern user experience - so why do so many people hate it?

    Reasons I am not prepared to accept:

    1) That it requires a "killer" machine with 2TB of RAM, 4 graphics cards, 2 dual-core processors and a massive hard drive. It does not. It runs just sweet on any computer that is relatively new. For older kit, you can turn Aero Glass off.

    2) That some things don't work yet - maybe so, but get over it, Vista is new. Anyone who has been into computing for a while will recall that it was the same with XP when it first came out, and 98, and 95, etc, etc... software and drivers take a little time to catch up, that's hardly Microsoft's fault.

    Actually, I have found that just about everything works just fine, you now and again have to run things as Administrator but as far as I am concerned that's the same in Linux as well.

    3) That its just XP with a new interface. Get a grip, do you know anything about computers at all? There's a whole host of changes that have been made, and welcome ones at that. XP is out of date and Vista has given Windows a much needed update.

    If you have anything negative (or otherwise) to say about it that's not 1), 2) or 3) then I'd love to hear it. Just what is people's problem???

    I'm no fan of Microsoft specifically - readers who know me (both from the forums and from posting on the front news page) will know that I embrace all computing and that I have been an advocate of Linux since its early days. But I think Microsoft have done a good job of Vista and a lot of the criticism seems unfounded IMHO.
  8. herr5407 Newcomer, in training Posts: 118

    I consider it bloatware because it seems like they just added a whole wack of useless stuff you don't need.

    I'll stick with XP until i forced to buy Vista when they discontinue supporting XP.
  9. Phantasm66 Newcomer, in training Posts: 6,504

    Could you possibly provide some examples to back that claim up?
  10. herr5407 Newcomer, in training Posts: 118

    lol no.

    From the comments I hear from my friends, I've just decided to steer clear for a little while.

    They way I see it, its exactly like XP. It's very new so it's going to be buggy so I'll give it a little time and then upgrade.
  11. Phantasm66 Newcomer, in training Posts: 6,504

    What did they say? Have any of these people installed the final release of Vista and not a release candidate or beta?
  12. LinkedKube TechSpot Project Baby Posts: 4,180   +23

    You cant run vista efficiently without a good video card and a large amount of ram. Go walk into Best Buy with vista on all the computers, the marketing department was too cheap to upgrade all the display models just to run an O.S. All the pc's look like cartoons from the 30's with a flip book.
  13. Phantasm66 Newcomer, in training Posts: 6,504

    I'd agree that 1GB of RAM is kind of needed for Vista and that 2GB is desireable, but that's a common spec for a modern machine. I don't think though, that a powerful graphics card is required, Vista can turn all the eye candy stuff off. Most machines have good enough graphics unless they are particularly old or cheap.
  14. LinkedKube TechSpot Project Baby Posts: 4,180   +23

    128mb of video ram is becoming not enough to mulitask on vista, most machines do not have these specs. The fact still remains that 90% of pc purchased are not geared towards gaming, plus the average person don't know what they're buying from Dell, HP etc, so it leaves room for the manufacturer to skimp on specs, we all know its true. As of right now Vista IS NOT for everyone, point blank.
  15. halo71 Newcomer, in training Posts: 1,290

    Kinda proves what I was gonna say. I hear the same thing from my friends as well about how crappy Vista is. And none of them are even running it, but yet all they do is talk down about it! I have a new laptop with 2 gigs of ram, no "good video card" and it runs like a top! Its running Ultimate. And so far the ONLY problem I have had was running the Zune software. I even run Sim City 3000 on it just to see how it would run and it runs great! And this game is what 10 years old?!?
  16. cogsy Newcomer, in training Posts: 21

    Hi all I am running Vista Ultimate on one of my machine and find it to be good software , addmitedly my machine is a bit of a beast gigabyte GA-965P-DQ6 with 2X 1gig of ram and 2X X1950 PRO Xtreme 512MB CrossFire ...and has 2.5terra bytes of HD space
    For gaming my machine rates at 5.4

    I run XP on a few other machines and still love XP also ...but you guys have got to at least give Vista a run before knocking it ...
  17. herr5407 Newcomer, in training Posts: 118

    For the most part the requirements to run Vista are mostly what are driving me away from the product.

    I'm in the middle of moving into a new place and have little money to be able to upgrade the current PC which runs Windows XP absolutely perfect to a PC that doesn't meet the recommended hardware requirements.

    A friend of mine also bought a computer that well exceeded the recommended requirements and found it ran quite sluggish.

    In the school I'm attending, they give you liscensed keys for pretty much all MS software (didn't even know), so I'm going to give Vista a try this week. Maybe I can finally shut my trap and praise instead of knock. Although I barely meet minimum RAM requirements, we'll see how it goes.
  18. LinkedKube TechSpot Project Baby Posts: 4,180   +23

    The problem is that the requirements that they give you for vista to run it aren't the right ones, go go gadget microsoft, lol.
  19. Phantasm66 Newcomer, in training Posts: 6,504

    My experience exactly.

    I am running Vista Ultimate on a Thinkpad T42 which is hardly state of the art and its running just fine.
  20. Mictlantecuhtli TS Special Forces Posts: 4,916   +9

    No, Linux at work and at home. My iBook's battery is dead so I don't use it that much at the moment.

    Nevertheless, the usual Windows behaviour I mentioned has been bothering me since Windows 3.0 and apparently it's not going to go away in the future.