I am curious on how science said the universe is from Big Bang and Big Bang once was a ballon (big big big ballon) then exploded to create galaxies and then solar system, planets and so on... The question is what outside the Big Bang? does Big Bang really just a regular star (like our) that come to its end and imagine there are hundred thousand trillion of trillion Big Bang going on (but we just too small to see) the same as the microscopic say the Earth is their infinite Universe?

I once think that our star (sun) was just a single atom (and our planets is its shield lolz) of another creature that are so BIG we never thought it over... and its time, say 1 second of it times equal to 1 mil or billion year? lolz

I dunno if it really make sense or even comprehence to other, but well I gotta say it cuz I am curious Lolz... oh btw it defiently out of topic, sorry for that...

1) Well SNG, when I was referring to Billions and Trillions of miles, that was basically just an estimate of mine. For one, I didn't go into great detail on it, and frankly, its really not that important. No one knows exactly how big the universe is, so any number is just an estimate.
2) And your right, Anti-Matter does exist, but what I'm saying is that we would need large quantities of it, for interstellar travel. Basically, Anti-Matter would be used as fuel. So, to answer your question, we would need very large quantities of it, and there is not alot of it on Earth, So thats what I mean by getting it from outer space, because there are larger quantities in our solar system.
3) Well maybe I exaggerated that one, but it is very much possible for that to happen with the use of Highly advanced technology, which could be available in a few years time.
4) Well scientists believe that there is water underneath Europa's icy surface. Scientists believe that there maybe a vast ocean underneath, that could be even larger than the earths oceans. http://www.nineplanets.org/europa.html
Water can exist under ice, so I disagree on that one.

*I don't mind you disagreeing with me on my theories, but you could have been more polite SNG, Now my feelings have been hurt

The edges do NOT approach each other. They will never overlap. It's not the MATTER that's expanding. It's the SPACE itself. Even if there are other universes outside our own, they can't ever reach us (nor can light/gravity emitted from them reach us) because the space in-between is expanding at faster than lightspeed. Regardless of what a supposed second universe is doing, it's already far enough away from us to never be able to affect us.

Phase changes (especially of water) are pressure-dependent. Water's freezing point is 0 Celsius only when the pressure is 1 atmosphere. There are also many types of ice, and each has its own certain molecular arrangement (source). You will notice on this diagram that the coldest temperature that (non-supercooled) liquid water can exist at is about -22 Celsius. Gaseous water can't exist below about 200 Kelvin.

Antimatter annihilates upon contact with ordinary matter. Beyond the realm of spontaneous pair production (which happens all over the place and lasts only nanoseconds), useful chunks of antimatter simply don't exist. Even the near-vacuum of space has too much matter in it for antimatter to exist for any significant period of time. Antimatter is created in laboratories on earth through various particle interactions.

Problems arise when you try to store the antimatter. You must keep it in a container, but you can't let it touch the walls of the container. Therefore, you use a magnetic containment field. However, only particles with a net electric charge are held by such a field. If you capture, say, 1 pound of positrons (anti-electrons), you would theoretically be able to hold them in a magnetic bottle. However, since they're all positively-charged, they repel each other viciously. One pound of positrons would totally overwhelm any magnetic bottle we could possibly construct (a billionth of that would probably overwhelm any magnetic bottle we could construct!). So what if we introduce an equal number of anti-protons? Well, the positrons and anti-protons combine together to form anti-hydrogen atoms, which have no net charge. Now the hydrogen doesn't repels itself, which is good. However, we now have a bunch of uncharged objects, and our magnetic field doesn't affect them any more. So they drift outward, touch the container walls, and annihilate. Crap. Basically, it's impossible to store large amounts of anti-matter using any techniques currently available.

This thread is turning into a load of hypothetical claptrap.

The original question, seems to have become lost in this sea of nonsense.

There`s nothing wrong with reasoned argument. But, frankly a lot of the comments in this thread, don`t seem to have any reasoned argument involved.

End of rant.

Regards Howard

What I've said about the expanding universe may technically be conjecture, but it is the prevailing opinion among cosmologists and astrophyscists. The water/ice stuff and antimatter stuff is not hypothetical, it's just fact.

As for MonkeyMan's post. It's just total gibberish. He/she obviously knows nothing about physics. Antimatter is NOT found only in outer space. We create it in laboratories all the time. What the hell does "condensed into a single amount of energy" mean? Antimatter could certainly destroy the entire solar system, but to totally destroy the solar system, it would take an equivalently-massed amount of antimatter to do so. Last time I checked, the solar system's mass was...pretty damn large. "Europa's temperature is estimated at over -728 degrees celcius". Well, that's pretty obvious. EVERYTHING is over -728 degrees Celsius. What you probably meant was "below -728 degrees Celsius", and, in that case, you're utterly wrong. It's an impossible temperature, as someone else pointed out. The lowest temperature that exists is absolute zero, which is about -273.15 degrees Celsius (or 0 Kelvin).

A little physics knowledge is good for the brain, I always say. Or at least I'll start saying it now.

For one, I never said Anti-Matter is only found in outer space, I said, "There are larger quantities of it in outer space." Which doesn't necessarily mean that it is restricted to outer space. I know Anti-Matter exists on Earth, so I don't actually know what your point really is.

Two, Anti-Matter, if controlled correctly, could be harnessed into a single propelling energy, which could reach the speed of light, if not moreso.

Three, Yes I meant below -728 degrees celcius. Distant planets can actually go over that point, because you have to think, they are far away from the sun, and no warmth reaches distant planets, so they freeze uncontrollably. So you see, my statements are very valid :grinthumb

There are hostile aliens among us every day, they're called Wasps and Hornets. They need no provoking to attack they serve no usefull purpose IMO,
other than the enjoyment of annihilating them with a 25 foot spray can of RAID. hehe :dead:

im preety sure there called bugs. just kinding. but i wonder who was here first bees and other bugs or humans

what makes you say -728 degrees celcuis. absolute zero is -273 deg celcius, i don't see how matter could get colder than that. at -273 the atoms aren't moving at all, how could they be more motionless than that?

I kinda do believe in aliens, but I think it's because my brain can't comprehend the fact that there can be only one planet with life. I don't know what to believe.

Well, I know what to believe bbdude, out of the billions of stars, and millions, if not billions of planets encircling them, there has to be without a shadow of a doubt, some form of life out there. I believe that there are advanced civilizations, and also reptilian, and plantlike organisms, that exist in the outer cosmos. Well, maybe even the inner cosmos, because there are still some things that we do not know about our own solar system. Have you ever considered the fact that there maybe humans exactly like us in some other part of the Universe? it is indeed possible, and a very exciting concept. The next few years are going to be exciting, because we have a space module on its way to examine water speculated Europa, and the rocky surface of Titan, which are two of Saturn's moons. It is possible that we may find some form of life there. All I can say, is that we should keep our eyes in the media, and watch for great discoveries to happen within the next few years.

I'd believe there are aliens. I wouldn't particularly buy into the conspiracy theories surrounding them (Government contact, military using alien technology, i.e. anything you'd find on the X-Files). It'd also depend on youe definition of alien too. Does non-terrestrial bacteria count for example? Or are we referring to (non)sentient beings. Besides, most of the planet already believes in 1 alien, no not ET or Michael Jackson - God. Then again, I'm aetheist so that doesn't count for me. I tend to look at it as we're here & space is mind numbingly vast so why shouldn't there be?

When Inveting the Necular Bomb the was a sign of a unidefied fly object I think less than 200 feet in there air it was there one min then gone the next.
It was reported I forgot where I saw it
but I think they where obsevering how it was built so they could use it for there own good.

THERE ARE WITH US

Actually, now that I think of it, Ancient South American civilizations have art of what are essentially astronauts, while sections of the old testament seemingly refer to flying non-terrestrial flying machines (Some being like helicopters, which were used to destroy a city). Chariots Of The Gods is probably the most popular book on the subject I can think of (I've not read it though).

Then again, you can find a theory to try support just about any belief, e.g. David Icke would have you believe Lizards rule the world or NASA faked the moon landings.

In fact, you said precisely this:

So yes, you did say antimatter is only found in outer space. And what the heck does "interstellular" mean?

Ahh, that's where the dilithium crystals come in, right? You have no idea what you're talking about. Take a physics class.

I'm going to assume the emoticon indicates you're joking. The alternative makes me weep for the future.

This is the most unintelligible garbage yet posted! Wow! Sorry, I can't help it when I see something this poorly-written.

Do you people listen to yourselves when you talk (or read your own writing)?

Gee, thanks

Physics instruction, then syntax, grammar, and attitude adjustment! Methinks we don't NEED aliens.... uh, what is it that lithium is prescribed for? I might also suggest prescriptions for tact and humanity. :monkey:

wow, this thread has been busy!

I think Howard Hopkinso has made the most logical conclusion by saying that IF life created itself and popped out of nothing here on our earth, it could very well have done the same thing elseware. I would agree.

But I don't believe in life creating itself, it is impossible. Someone also said that if we think we are the height of intelligence on earth, that this is arrogant. Huh? The human body is so vastly complex, we still don't understand, or know about, how a lot of it works. Intelligence, we aren't talking about how "smart" we are, but look at how "intelligent" our bodies and systems function together. It is our human body and function and form that is "intelligent", the level of book learning we have.

Let us take, as an example, the most gorgeous and awesome creation MAN has ever created on this earth. Say, a building, or machine. Now let's say you traveled the earth and saw this building or machine. Could you, could you EVER, be so ignorant to say to yourself that this building likely just came from nothing and ended up this way? Or perhaps evolved into this precision piece of machinery one evolved bolt at a time?

Say even just a car. Made of lots of materials, all presisly placed in the right order, connected in the right places, using the right materials, to make a system of travel. Now how much more complex are our oun bodies compared to a building or car? And their materials, connections and functions, working together to make this "machine" work?
And yet people say this complex organism sprung out of nowhere? Oh, sorry, "evolved" into what it is?
Sorry, but I don't care if you give me 10 trillions of 10 trillions of years, a boat will never turn into a motorcycle. Neither will a particle in a mud puddle turn into a human some day. It is absurdity at its highest level.

This is my thinking, there is certainly a God of the universe. He certainly created this magnificent creation that we still don't understand, after thousands of years we still don't understand most of it. And never will. Human theories crumble daily. People "accept" the theories of "educated" men, as weak as they are, because they refuse the alternative (God).

When you think about it, it is a choice of ONLY TWO options. If you believe God and the biblical account, you have all the history you need, explained right there in black and white. If you refuse to believe God, you are left with a bunch of wild, ever changing theories and guesses that never cease to change with each generation of scholars. And you never really know the truth, you just know what some men have guessed is the answer. And pick the theory that feels the most logical to your own mind.

So there is my own affirmation of my own thinking. Which, not surprising, has nothing to do with the question of the topic of this thread. Because God is the author, who is to say He didn't create 10 billion more universes like ours to manage? Only except the bible never hints to that end. So we are left thinking we are alone. And if we are not alone, we'll certainly never meet the others, so what difference does it make wondering about it? It's like, if you are sitting at your kitchen table eating Lucky Charms, what difference does it make, wondering if your neighbor down the block also has Lucky Charms? None at all.
Searching for other life is a meaningless, fruitless, expensive waste of time that can never lead to anything good. IMHO

Sorry if that rattles anybody's feathers. I hate arguments and debates. I just hope I made a few points, that's all. If you don't like it, don't listen. No good knowledge comes from knowing only ONE SIDE of the story. And I know enough about both sides to believe what I believe.

good night everybody.