GenFUBAR
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Actually it's not. A few months ago I bought a 50" 4K tv from ALDI, And yes I'm happy with it, And it's not a smart TV, Didn't need a smart TV, Have an XBox One attached to it that does all that.
11 Myths About Buying a New 4K TV
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Actually it's not. A few months ago I bought a 50" 4K tv from ALDI, And yes I'm happy with it, And it's not a smart TV, Didn't need a smart TV, Have an XBox One attached to it that does all that.
OLED (and QLED) suffer hugely from burn-in with many users reporting it within a year. I'd stay away from OLED. You can search online for many burn-in tests on LG TVs.
drjekelmrhyde
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I always get the extended warranty from Amazon for TVs. I had two break and instead of telling me to send it back they just gave me a check. One of the TVs, I broke by falling into it while drunk.
Adhmuz
Posts: 2,343 +1,186
4K refers to the horizontal width of the screen in pixels, which 4K TVs aren't actually anyways only 3820 pixels wide instead of the 4000 pixels which truly describes the format. Who do you know that thinks 4K refers to the vertical pixels? if anything 4K can be used as a way of saying you have 4 times the pixels of a 1080p screen, but surely not in reference to the number of vertical pixels the screen has. I understand the confusion considering HD was in terms of vertical pixels and now 4K is for the horizontal plane.
Abraka
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You're wrong. Smart TVs are listening to "your commands" and sending your voice over the internet "for recognition" (as if they can't recognize it with that multicore CPU they have).
So if you have an important conversation, never do it in the same room where your SmartTV is. Also, if your SmartTV has a camera, you should probably put duck tape over it. Because it's not that hard to hack into their horrible software and take video and audio from it.
If possible, avoid SmartTV altogether.
So if you have an important conversation, never do it in the same room where your SmartTV is. Also, if your SmartTV has a camera, you should probably put duck tape over it. Because it's not that hard to hack into their horrible software and take video and audio from it.
If possible, avoid SmartTV altogether.
trgz
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I think you're right in that it actually refers to pixel count. However, I'm sure that the average punter will think that 4K=4000 and to them 4000 is about 4 x bigger than 1080 so I rather think that it's something that the marketing people will not have sought to, erm, clarify - who knows, they may have even planned to push it that way ;-).
slamscaper
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QLED is just LCD with a different matrix, so burn-in is the same as any LCD since the fundamental tech is the same. Samsung developed QLED to compete with OLED but in reality there is no competition. OLED blows it out of the water because OLED is a direct view technology that beats LCD in every attribute other than brightness and longevity, although they are quickly catching up in those two areas as well.
As for burn in, it was all but eliminated in later Plasma sets. It's not a huge issue with the latest OLED displays either, or those with Samsung smartphones would be complaining in droves.
Ultraman1966
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Wouldn't a chromecast be far cheaper and simpler?
Wizwill
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Most tech sites do the reader the courtesy of listing paid persuasive content (ads) as such. This article smells of a huckster's pitch by the tone of the verbiage, yet one isn't sure until the byline at the bottom of the piece reveals the columnist's tout is reprinted from a marketing organization. Fake news, for shame!
Have a search for the rtings long term OLED vs LCD VA vs LCD IPS burn-in test. They are on Week 22 currently and there is a massive difference between the OLED and LCD screens. The burn-in on the OLED screen (red) became visible at just Week 5. There are many complaints from the owners of OLED TVs who have seen permanent image retention within a year and LG refuses to handle burn-in under their warranty.
As for phones, even Apple acknowledges that OLED screens suffer from burn-in and they have tried to reduce it on their Super Retina screens. Most manufacturers are trying to deal with it by keeping the brightness low and making static parts (like the navigation bar on the Google Pixel 2 XL) time out and disappear.
By all means, buy an OLED TV screen. Just be aware that it is very prone to burn-in. To mitigate that, keep it on a low brightness setting and make sure it is not left playing the same game (HUD constantly displayed) or on the same news/sports channel that has a logo in the corner.
slamscaper
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While I know that burn-in is an issue on OLED screens, it's not a factor that is game changing. Simply read some of the reviews of LG's OLED TV's where they are called simply "the best HDTV's EVER tested." Seeing as I've had AMOLED smartphone's going on a few years now and have witnessed the improvements in them, I have to admit they demolish even the best IPS LCD's I've had. I own two professional grade IPS monitors. I have very particular tastes when it comes to monitors and I like to think I know more than your average enthusiast about monitor tech. My primary screen is a 2017 model with a coveted AS-IPS panel. It's the 27 inch 4K LG27UD69P-W. The "P" at the end means it's a cherry picked panel made for professional use. It did cost me a little under $1000 so it wasn't cheap, but it has a nice stand that does portrait mode, plus it's super thin and has nearly NO bezel at all. Next to it, I have my older monitor but still a very good professional grade monitor at that. It's a tried and true Dell Ultrasharp U2410 1200p model, which uses an H-IPS panel built by LG Philips and hasn't lost ANY of it's uniformity, color accuracy, and brightness since I bought it back in 2011. I've always been completely blown away by the viewing angles this H-IPS screen has. It really is amazing, even with the old CCFL lamps. It was always used as a secondary monitor and it usually was asleep when I was gaming, so it has a lot less on time than the first one I sold long ago.
Both of these monitors perform beautifully. The LG 4K Professional grade monitor is simply breathtaking with native 4K content and does a wonderful job scaling 1080p content as well. It has freesync support built-in and is plenty fast enough for gaming in terms of input lag, however I'm using a 1080Ti so Freesync isn't an option. I just use fast vsync and it's a good compromise.
Now... All this said, as great as these monitors are, they don't hold a candle to the latest OLED displays. Once they improve the life of blue OLED lights and achieve more acceptable levels of burn-in over time, you will start seeing OLED displays penetrate the PC market as well. The burn-in issue is the reason Plasma never was used for computer montiors (not to mention very high power consumption), and so far it's the same for OLED. But OLED is the future for sure and it WILL come to the PC as it doesn't chew up all that power that Plasma does, not to mention it's already on smartphones and tablets. It's only a matter of time. Since Plasma is all but dead, OLED is a better option for a pure movie HDTV for sure. They do build apps to combat the burn-in issues, which you can run every once in a while. You can get rid of image retention on OLED screens, just as you can with LCD.
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Invizibleyez
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While you are at it, do not ever carry a smartphone. Smartphones use GPS to locate you,at least 2 cameras to see everything and respond to voice prompts if enabled too. If you however carry a smartphone of any kind, don't worry about anything else recording you. You already have and maintain your own personal tracking and recording device. A smart TV can only listen to you in one location when you are there. Your smartphone can do so much more to spy on you, and most people carry them everywhere.
Invizibleyez
Posts: 73 +20
I don't think you quite understand. A 4k TV is actually 4x the resolution of a typical 1080p TV. 1080p is 1920x1080. 4k is 3840 x 2160. So with each dimension being doubled that makes it take four 1080p tvs to display every pixel that a 4k TV can.
Adhmuz
Posts: 2,343 +1,186
I should have just said this to begin with, the "4K" TVs that are being sold are actually what should be considered UHD or 2160p, which yes is 4x the resolution of a 1080p TV, but not called 4K because of it or the cinematic, DCI resolution. The industry is just lazy AF and doesn't want to actually make TVs that conform to the standard and save a buck, much like storage manufacturers not using the real way to describe space on their products.
I see a lot of people saying you don't need expensive cables , that is only true when talking about short cables1 - 3 meters. I had to buy a 7m cable ( I think) and the first one I bought was a cheap no brand cable, it was useless. I had all sort of artifact , static ( I don't what it is called English is not my native language) and sometimes the image/ signal would just fail all together.
So I bought another 3star (more expensive) cable with Ethernet and everything is working perfect.
So I bought another 3star (more expensive) cable with Ethernet and everything is working perfect.
Prosercunus
Posts: 358 +283
Cables DO matter if you're trying to get 60 frames per second in 4k. You'll need to pay a little extra for an hdmi 2.0 cable or the cable literally cannot pass enough information between the devices to get a full 60fps in 4k. An hdmi 1.4 cable is only capable of pushing 30fps in 4k. For an article on a tech website, not mentioning that there are different standards for the cables that change what they're capable of is not good for someone looking to buy a 4k tv and looking for advice.
Squid Surprise
Posts: 5,597 +5,227
Most HDMI 2.0 cables are no different than 1.4 spec cables... other than the label.... the 1.4 spec means that's the minimum it can handle - remember, this article is many months old and HDMI 2.1 was still new...
Plus if you live alone or just 2 in a home still worth it unless you throw yearly Superbowl parties
They have actually different standards, and if you want to actually guarantee the experience you want, never buy 1.4. Are you sure you're not thinking of display port?
Squid Surprise
Posts: 5,597 +5,227
No, I’m thinking of HDMI.... and this article was written when HDMI 2.1was new and wasn’t really relevant.... 4K at that time was only supported at 30fps, so the cable wasn’t really a concern...
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