Amazon announces $2 billion 'Climate Pledge Fund' to accelerate decarbonization

EClyde

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It's a good question but the directly answer is that if we don't address the climate issues & quickly, there won't be a species around to use all those other things and as far as "right now", the climate issues were "right now" decades ago and the need continues to grow exponentially.
Funny Baloney
 

EClyde

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That sounds like infidel talk to me. You shall be forced to wash your clothes in 2 ounces of water only on Saturday night at 11 pm and flush your toilet only once every 10 days as penance for your transgressions against the Church of Climate Change.
The Church of Climate Change ! You hit that right on the head.
 

EClyde

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I was correct. You can call someone derogatorily a Trumpanzee here. No or double standards at techspot?
 

scavengerspc

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And they love emulating it then claiming everyone else emulates it but not them.
That Joe Walsh album, You Can't Argue with a Sick Mind Got it right, IMO!
Yeah, just the first 3 lines of "Seems to me" are spot on.

How about "The Ostrich" by Steppenwolf

"Forget about it for today
We'll stick our heads into the sand
Just pretend that all is grand
Then hope that everything turns out ok"

 

candle_86

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Nothing is more efficient than an electric vehicle. There will be someday, but I guarantee it won't be powered by gasoline.

My 2019 Ram 2500 4WD with a 6.4 litre Hemi and 32-gallon tank gets right around 340 miles on a full tank. $64 worth of gas. A Tesla Model 3 goes 225-260 miles on a full charge. With its 75 kWh battery, it would cost $9.75 to charge from 0%.

Less than $10 to travel let's say 250 miles. Sounds pretty efficient to me.
Except I take 400-500 mile trips on the weekends, that's why they loose. It's efficient until you have to wait 6 hours for it to recharge.
 

scavengerspc

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Except I take 400-500 mile trips on the weekends, that's why they loose. It's efficient until you have to wait 6 hours for it to recharge.
Hey man I'm in the same situation in that way. Every once in a while I pack up and head to the Ozarks (Eureka Springs) for some R&R. I could do it in an EV but there would be some extra stops for a recharge and some are out of the way. All I'm saying is that besides that, every other aspect of my life could be done in an EV.

It's like owning a motor home. It's only needed for a relatively short time in life.
That is where gasoline vehicles are for a lot of people already. Rarely needed.
 

Reehahs

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The real problem is exponential human population growth...but no one wants to talk about the "E word".
Isn't it tapering off in the developed world? Most countries really ought to consider two-child policies.
To be perfectly honest, I work in budgeting and if you actually saw how little goes into education of individual students and how much gets eaten up by corporations selling schools equipment they don't need, administrator pensions and redundant jobs, you'd realize that just putting more money into the "education industrial complex" will solve nothing.

Example: Most kids have smartphones and tablets (whether they should or not). So long as they can read, they have access to all the encyclopedia, dictionary, history, etc,etc,etc in the history of man in the palm of their hand.

But they aren't watching Warren Buffet, McLaughlin Group, PBIS or anything educational unless they are absolutely forced to. They are watching Pewdiepie and Movlogs.

Autodidactic education is more accessible and cheaper than any time in human history.
Guidance and mentoring is more important these days than ever to find the diamonds in the coal.
 

candle_86

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Hey man I'm in the same situation in that way. Every once in a while I pack up and head to the Ozarks (Eureka Springs) for some R&R. I could do it in an EV but there would be some extra stops for a recharge and some are out of the way. All I'm saying is that besides that, every other aspect of my life could be done in an EV.

It's like owning a motor home. It's only needed for a relatively short time in life.
That is where gasoline vehicles are for a lot of people already. Rarely needed.
Nope don't like them, they sound like toys, there is no throaty roar, the thing suffers from the same problem as modern cars with enough sensors to make them uneconomical to repair, and the enjoyment of working on your car is gone, you can't go out to the garage and adjust your advance to get an extra 10hp. All in all if I have to I'll buy a multifuel engine for my truck and if gasoline goes away I'll drive it on other fuels. The last quality cars made are from the mid 80s, after that it's all computer controlled garbage with more sensors than the enterprise
 

wiyosaya

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Nope don't like them, they sound like toys, there is no throaty roar, the thing suffers from the same problem as modern cars with enough sensors to make them uneconomical to repair, and the enjoyment of working on your car is gone, you can't go out to the garage and adjust your advance to get an extra 10hp. All in all if I have to I'll buy a multifuel engine for my truck and if gasoline goes away I'll drive it on other fuels. The last quality cars made are from the mid 80s, after that it's all computer controlled garbage with more sensors than the enterprise
To me, it seems odd that you would say that they sound like toys and then complain there is no throaty roar. In another thread, I joked that people could use a clothes pin to attach a playing card to the wheels, like my friends and I did when we were kids with our bicycles, and then get that motor-like sound. ;)

It has been some time for cars where you actually hear the real sound of the engine anyway. I saw a documentary about Mustangs and how they produce the sound that the Mustangs make. What they did was survey a bunch of men and asked them what they thought sounded like a muscle car. Then, Ford engineered a tuned resonator to make that sound. In other words, that sound is fake. A tuned resonator is very much like having a pipe from a pipe organ in the car, IMO. I have a friend who owned an EVO and it sounded somewhat like a jet engine though I doubt that was coming from a tuned resonator.

I have been behind pre-pollution control cars on the road from time to time and they smell like crap to me.

I certainly respect your choice to stay with gas powered vehicles while it is still possible. For me, EVs have significantly less moving parts and, thus, less that is possible to go wrong with them from that aspect. They also require no oil in the crank case, and other areas which adds to their cleanliness from my perspective.

I own an 06 Prius, and there is only one thing that I have experienced that would not have happened if it were not a hybrid. That problem was that water leaked through a seal on my rear hatch into the relay that controls the fan for cooling the hybrid battery. I could also argue that a seal leaking could have happened on a "lower tech" car causing some problem with that lower tech car.

I could, but I choose not to, still change the oil, rotate the tires, change the 12v battery, there are youtube videos on how to change the hybrid battery, I had a problem with the radio that I fixed myself partly using a youtube video, I replace the radio antenna myself using another youtube video, in short, for my Prius there are many things that a car owner can still do themselves.

The main complaint that I hear is the range for an EV. Sooner or later, that problem will be solved. There are some developments out there already that IF (note the big IF) they come out of the research lab and make it to market, could make a coast-to-coast trip possible without recharging. Some day, those or something like them will hit the market. At that point, IMO, gas vehicles will be a thing of the past.
 
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scavengerspc

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For me, EVs have significantly less moving parts and, thus, less that is possible to go wrong with them from that aspect. They also require no oil in the crank case, and other areas which adds to their cleanliness from my perspective.
On average maintaining an electric car costs 1\3rd the price of maintaining an internal combustion car. No fluids except for battery cooling and the direct drive. No tune-ups, no exhaust system or transmission.
Here is a general checklist

 

USAvenger

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Here's a longtime environmental and climate change activist on the folly of climate change alarmism: http://archive.is/MyP2X

Forbes naturally censored his article because he's not lockstep with the narrative. Liberals don't give two sh**s about the free exchange of ideas or the First Amendment if you are at odds with that which they hold dear. See Twitter, Facebook, Reddit...
 

scavengerspc

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Here's a longtime environmental and climate change activist on the folly of climate change alarmism: http://archive.is/MyP2X

Forbes naturally censored his article because he's not lockstep with the narrative. Liberals don't give two sh**s about the free exchange of ideas or the First Amendment if you are at odds with that which they hold dear. See Twitter, Facebook, Reddit...
I dont care about Liberals or CONServatives. I care about science and everything I have read over the years. Have fun with Twitter, Facebook, Reddit...

Then study the science. It's all there for anyone that doesn't get their info from Fox news and the god Limbaugh. I will even get you started:




Damn those wascally Liberals at NASA.

My sister lives in West Palm Beach Florida. Would you tell her personally that climate change is fake?
 
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USAvenger

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I dont care about Liberals or CONServatives. I care about science and everything I have read over the years. Have fun with Twitter, Facebook, Reddit...

Then study the science. It's all there for anyone that doesn't get their info from Fox news and the god Limbaugh. I will even get you started:




Damn those wascally Liberals at NASA.

My sister lives in West Palm Beach Florida. Would you tell her personally that climate change is fake?
You're assuming that I am denier of man-made climate change. You know what happens when you assume.

How long do we have before it's too late? 8 years? 10 years? The number keeps changing. Al Gore warned of an ice-free Arctic by 2013. How'd that turn out? He still has his 10,000+ sq. ft. mansion. Hmm. Obama bought a house on Martha's Vineyard. He doesn't seem to be too concerned with rising oceans. The climate change business is a pretty sweet racket.

As one who is such a steadfast believer, are you willing to give up your way of life to help stave off the impending disaster? If we're going full Green New Deal, I'm afraid that your gas-guzzling truck is gonna have to go. MythBusters came to the conclusion that motorcycles are as bad for the environment as cars, so sorry to disappoint you there too. I won't judge you for your transgressions - I'll let your fellow parishioners do that.

"Live Free or Die" is what I would tell your sister.
 

scavengerspc

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You're assuming that I am denier of man-made climate change. You know what happens when you assume.

How long do we have before it's too late? 8 years? 10 years? The number keeps changing. Al Gore warned of an ice-free Arctic by 2013. How'd that turn out? He still has his 10,000+ sq. ft. mansion. Hmm. Obama bought a house on Martha's Vineyard. He doesn't seem to be too concerned with rising oceans. The climate change business is a pretty sweet racket.

As one who is such a steadfast believer, are you willing to give up your way of life to help stave off the impending disaster? If we're going full Green New Deal, I'm afraid that your gas-guzzling truck is gonna have to go. MythBusters came to the conclusion that motorcycles are as bad for the environment as cars, so sorry to disappoint you there too. I won't judge you for your transgressions - I'll let your fellow parishioners do that.

"Live Free or Die" is what I would tell your sister.
1. So your point is that Al Gore was right, just not on when? You left a lot of the truth of his statement out.
2. My gas-guzzling vehicles will go as soon as there are viable alternatives. Soon enough.
3. Did you really need Myth Busters to figure out that motorcycles are as bad for the environment as cars? Well they aren't, they are much worse.

"Live Free or Die" is what I would tell your sister.
Her thoughts to that ridiculous statement are that she will do one, then the other. You went back to the '60s to dodge that one.
 
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