AMD claims Ryzen Threadripper 9000 is up to 145% faster than Intel Xeon

[Raytrace3D]

One of these years, AMD just might make a competitive GPU.

I miss ATI before AMD bought them. They were quite competitive back then. I also miss 3dfx before NVIDIA bought them. :/

 

[Raytrace3D]

I built a Threadripper PRO 7965WX system about 8 months ago and I LOVE the performance. I can only imagine what it will be like to have the 9000 series. Really glad this time around WRX90 is a supported platform for both 7000 and 9000 CPUs... I'll be able to upgrade to the 9000 series eventually.

My last Threadripper was the good old 2950X and it was on a dead platform (TR4) and no upgrade path outside of new motherboard. Was a bummer because my MEG X399 Creation board was really nice.

 

[human7]

I built a Threadripper PRO 7965WX system about 8 months ago and I LOVE the performance. I can only imagine what it will be like to have the 9000 series. Really glad this time around WRX90 is a supported platform for both 7000 and 9000 CPUs... I'll be able to upgrade to the 9000 series eventually.

My last Threadripper was the good old 2950X and it was on a dead platform (TR4) and no upgrade path outside of new motherboard. Was a bummer because my MEG X399 Creation board was really nice.

I have a 2950X in my old rig that I still have, I know what you mean about the upgrade path. I have a 9800X3D in the new one, I didn't really need the Threadripper but I was tempted.

 

[Vira1987]

I run a small animation studio. My mains are..

Ryzen 9 3950x, R 9 3900X. R9 5950x, R 7700X, R 7 1700, R7 5800x all setup with a 5070 OC.

 

[Raytrace3D]

I have a 2950X in my old rig that I still have, I know what you mean about the upgrade path. I have a 9800X3D in the new one, I didn't really need the Threadripper but I was tempted.

I upgraded because I need more PCI Express slots (and 5.0) and the latest boards come with 7 slots. Perfect for adding many M.2 drive, which was what I needed, but also for adding multiple video cards for AI work. So far it's working out pretty good. It's a lot more expensive than the old 2950X system back in the day though. lol

 

[dangh]

Well if only AMD GPU department can be as competent xD

AMD moved all the best engineers and resources to cpu division to create a Ryzen as a last resort to survive. RYzen 1 was not very good but at least gave them some light in the tunnel. With ryzen 3 they catched up with Intel and slowly started to be in green. They doubled up on that and made ryzen 5, 7 and 9 perfecting the design and performance/efficiency. With this at the base, and with company who saved themself from bankruptcy, they can put engineers back to the gpu department. We already see the benefits with FSR4, and RT performance improvement in 90x0 series. They will double down on this and with the resources both divisions will be able to success.

 

[MarcusNumb]

AMD moved all the best engineers and resources to cpu division to create a Ryzen as a last resort to survive. RYzen 1 was not very good but at least gave them some light in the tunnel. With ryzen 3 they catched up with Intel and slowly started to be in green. They doubled up on that and made ryzen 5, 7 and 9 perfecting the design and performance/efficiency. With this at the base, and with company who saved themself from bankruptcy, they can put engineers back to the gpu department. We already see the benefits with FSR4, and RT performance improvement in 90x0 series. They will double down on this and with the resources both divisions will be able to success.

I hope so, we are screwed anough already.

 

[Knot Schure]

I have almost 200 cores in my rack, but the real issue is that putting everything into a thread ripper system makes it a single point of failure. I'll put it this way, I like to "play" system admin in my homelab.

...and why not.

Enjoy, and learn.

 

[Knot Schure]

If there isn't a 64-core Xeon, then yeah, fair point about what can be compared, I assumed that Intel was making them. I vaguely remember them announcing such parts, but they have so many SKUs that it could have been, like the one you found, for the server market and not the workstation market, so it may not be a fair comparison anyways.

The two top Workstation parts are the 56 core / 112 thread W9-3495X & the slightly updated SKU, the 60 core / 120 thread W9-3595X.

And they are great, even for gaming. I run with HT off for less core contention.

 

[Squid Surprise]

The two top Workstation parts are the 56 core / 112 thread W9-3495X & the slightly updated SKU, the 60 core / 120 thread W9-3595X.

And they are great, even for gaming. I run with HT off for less core contention.

What is your primary use for them? Cause they are destroyed by cheaper Threadrippers in almost everything…

 

[WaphleStomp]

Sounds pretty impressive, but the real test will be how it handles checking my webmail once per day.

 

[Knot Schure]

Cost Realities - The price for just the CPU in a high-end TR system? That’s more than what I paid for my entire base platform—easy “no” from me. (And let’s be real: the 64c Threadripper isn’t $5k at retail—try $8,500 for the cheapest new one on eBay right now.)
Memory Channels Matter—More Than You Think SFR benefits massively from overclocking, and it’s not “completely destroyed” by similar Threadrippers of its age - if you’ve got both the right sticks and a motherboard that actually supports true octo-channel RAM. (Annoyingly, a number of boards will let you plug in 8 DIMMs but still only run quad-channel, just with two DIMMs per channel. Always check the memory config tables.)
What do I use it for? Massive emulated router environments: Each ASR-class router gobbles up to 16GB of RAM. Add all the emulated clients, endpoints, and network gear—no way you can do that on a consumer platform, no matter what the synthetic benchmarks say.
AI & LLM Tinkering: I can load 675B-parameter LLMs with half a terabyte of RAM. Is it fast? No. But does it work? Yes, and that’s what matters for hands-on learning.
Expansion & Lanes: Tons of PCIe lanes—with better lane management than consumer boards. I run four GPUs, multiple U.2 drives, etc., no drama.
SDR radio and (sometimes) gaming: I’m literally running SDR right now. And as for gaming: yes, the SFR chip lands in the top 14% on 3DMark for my GPU class, even on air cooling. Not bad for a workstation chip, and I take that as a clear 'win'.
Honestly, for most people, the “lesser” workstation chips give you all the RAM and lanes you’ll ever need—for the price of just a flagship CPU. I could pay for the top-shelf model, but I set limits for a reason. (It’s not about not having the money. It’s about not being a sucker, if I can't justify the cost difference.)

Have a good one!

 

[Burty117]

Cost Realities - The price for just the CPU in a high-end TR system? That’s more than what I paid for my entire base platform—easy “no” from me. (And let’s be real: the 64c Threadripper isn’t $5k at retail—try $8,500 for the cheapest new one on eBay right now.)
Memory Channels Matter—More Than You Think SFR benefits massively from overclocking, and it’s not “completely destroyed” by similar Threadrippers of its age - if you’ve got both the right sticks and a motherboard that actually supports true octo-channel RAM. (Annoyingly, a number of boards will let you plug in 8 DIMMs but still only run quad-channel, just with two DIMMs per channel. Always check the memory config tables.)
What do I use it for? Massive emulated router environments: Each ASR-class router gobbles up to 16GB of RAM. Add all the emulated clients, endpoints, and network gear—no way you can do that on a consumer platform, no matter what the synthetic benchmarks say.
AI & LLM Tinkering: I can load 675B-parameter LLMs with half a terabyte of RAM. Is it fast? No. But does it work? Yes, and that’s what matters for hands-on learning.
Expansion & Lanes: Tons of PCIe lanes—with better lane management than consumer boards. I run four GPUs, multiple U.2 drives, etc., no drama.
SDR radio and (sometimes) gaming: I’m literally running SDR right now. And as for gaming: yes, the SFR chip lands in the top 14% on 3DMark for my GPU class, even on air cooling. Not bad for a workstation chip, and I take that as a clear 'win'.
Honestly, for most people, the “lesser” workstation chips give you all the RAM and lanes you’ll ever need—for the price of just a flagship CPU. I could pay for the top-shelf model, but I set limits for a reason. (It’s not about not having the money. It’s about not being a sucker, if I can't justify the cost difference.)

Have a good one!

I did a quick Google:

Intel W9-3595X = £5740 (pre-order)
AMD 9980X = £4480 (in-stock)

Most reviews didn't even bother comparing them because the Intel is slower in every regard, sometimes substantially so.

Is that wall of text a way of coping with Intel's in-ability to compete? You don't HAVE to go with Intel you know, they don't love you or anything, they're just a business,