AMD confirms Radeon 6000 reveal and Zen 3 launch for October

[Puiu]

Check out some of the coverage of this "issue" on gamers nexus. The "vram usage" line you see in your software of choice isn't a true use of vram, and the game is useing less then that (its just the tuning software can't actually tell whats allocated and whats used).

This "not enough vram" has been a consistent refrain for years now and it never really pans out. Plus you have the problem of market penetration. AMD accounts for a couple percent of GPU market share. Current games in development are targeting the majority of the market which is 6GB of VRAM. Soon to be 8GB of VRAM. By the time 10GB of VRAM isn't "enough" (ie, that it impacts framerates or the quality of the gaming) we will be talking about the 5xxx series cards (or even later).

I'm excited to see what AMD brings to the table, especially in the CPU field. But their big navi will not be competitive with the 3080 in any way. And the really annoying part for me is even if it was competitive on a price and silicon level, it still wouldn't be competitive at the driver level. They have gotten much better the past 2-3 years but their still lagging far behind the level of game and driver support Nvidia brings to the table.

Nvidia was too focused on AI, and enterprise and Turing was an embarrassing misstep for them. I don't expect that to happen twice.

If you look at the 4K results of Turing it's pretty clear that its VRAM is being overwhelmed in multiple titles (go check the updated results that Steve released). People aren't yet making a big fuss about it since we don't know the compression levels of the new cards, but if they don't improve from Turing then they'll have the same problems. The bandwidth didn't increase by that much, especially for the 3070.

 

[Markoni35]

It will come with a bottle of liquid nitrogen. Premium users get 2 years supply of liquid nitrogen.

 

[max0x7ba]

If you look at the 4K results of Turing it's pretty clear that it's VRAM is being overwhelmed in multiple titles (go check the updated results that Steve released).

Could you be so kind as to post a direct link to the results you refer to?

 

[Puiu]

Could you be so kind as to post a direct link to the results you refer to?

Here you go:

 

[max0x7ba]

If you look at the 4K results of Turing it's pretty clear that its VRAM is being overwhelmed in multiple titles...

Your logic that poor 4K performance means it doesn't have enough VRAM has missing missing links and no supporting evidence.

 

[Puiu]

Your logic that poor 4K performance means it doesn't have enough VRAM has missing missing links and no supporting evidence.

Not exactly my own conclusion. The only obvious limiting factor at 4K compared to the 1080Ti is the VRAM unless Turing has a weird bottleneck somewhere else. I don't get why you sound so angry about a logical conclusion. The first 3 games and Doom Eternal later in the game list show signs of this. Steve did mentioned that Doom is using more than 8GB.

I'm sure Nvidia will be able to get a nice boost in performance at 4K for any upcoming Ti/Super card by just adding 2GB or VRAM and a small bump in clocks speeds for both the VRAM and GPU.

 

[amghwk]

The time is ripe to finally upgrade my system to an AMD Ryzen 7 series and pair it with the upcoming 6 series Big Navi card. Looking at my 5700XT, it can only go forward. Best bang for the buck.

 

[Makste]

Gotta remember prior to Zen AMD was looking at bankruptcy due to Faildozer.They also fight a war on two fronts CPU and GPU's. And they are smaller and have less resources than both competitors!

Am sure AMD is going to become the best option one of these days if it keeps at it and never gives up. Their innovations are much bigger and more interesting than their counterparts relative to their means. I'm slowly but steadily believing in an AMD future.