AMD, Nvidia nearly even in overall GPU shipments

[princeton]

TeamworkGuy2 said:
It could be very bad for us (the consumers), if AMD comes out on top of the video card market.
nVidia's only income is GPUs, but AMD is making money off the CPU and GPU markets.
Competition is good, but too much can kill one of the two companies.

AMD isn't making money off of cpus. Intel has been dominating them for a while now.

 

[blimp01]

I cant wait to see next years charts, i bet ATI will take a bigger desktop GPU share but we will see haha

 

[Burty117]

kevin1212 said:

Guest said:

AMD has a dismal CPU line and a mediocre GPU line (their history in the GPU market has been pretty terrible until recently). AMD's workstation and HPC segments are laughed at.

You clearly just don't like AMD. Dismal CPU line? While the i5/i7s are the better choices for enthusiasts, the phenoms and athlons are clearly the better option in the $50 to $150 category. Mediocre GPU line? Not since they introduced the 3870/3850 in late 2007 which were competitive at the very least, and then they arguably won the 4800 vs gt200 round. And no question they're winning right now, the gtx 460 is the only reasonable competition... and thats only on par with AMD's current offering, not better. AMD's workstation offerings aren't poor either. I'm actually surprised they haven't surpassed or at least caught up with nvidia in desktop market share. Where did you get your information?

I do have to right one wrong there, they didn't win the 4800 vs GTx200 at all, actually all there offerings were not as quick as Nvidia's.

 

[FransB]

AMD is doing great since the 4xxx series. The 3xxx were ok but the 4xxx punched nvidia in the face.

Excited what AMD will bring with llano APU ^_^.

 

[Brodieeee]

Nvidia all the way <3 never had any issues.

 

[kaonis92]

Nvidia has to focus on mobile gpu's more if they want to see an increase there. AMD on the other hand despite their overall better desktop gpu offerings holds surprisingly lower market share than nVidia. It seems that people are not concerned about the environment so much (I'm talking about nvidia's ovens of course...)

 

[raventrickster]

Interesting to see the splits being pretty much 60-40 to opposite players in each segment. That said there's probably more margin in the desktop segment, and the trend seems to be in that direction at the moment in any case. System buying seems to come in cycles, particularly as people who use both desktops and laptops tend to buy them in alternating periods. Personally while I'd like to be in the market for a new desktop cpu, finances and need dictate that I'm looking for a new laptop when the money comes around next.

 

[kevin1212]

burty117 said:

I do have to right one wrong there, they didn't win the 4800 vs GTx200 at all, actually all there offerings were not as quick as Nvidia's.

You're right, they were not as fast. The 4870 came out and was not as fast as the GTX 280, but the cost was less than half of the cost of the gtx 280, while the performance was only slightly lower. At that time you could get 2 4870's and still spend less than you would on the gtx 280. Hell even 2 4850's were faster. Eventually nvidia got their prices down but i would still say the 4800 series always had a better value. Then it took a while for nvidia to come up with the gtx 295, which i would not deny was a better option than the 4870x2, but there was a long wait. ATI won with their value rather than their performance.

 

[edison5do]

burty117 said:

kevin1212 said:

Guest said:

You clearly just don't like AMD. Dismal CPU line? While the i5/i7s are the better choices for enthusiasts, the phenoms and athlons are clearly the better option in the $50 to $150 category. Mediocre GPU line? Not since they introduced the 3870/3850 in late 2007 which were competitive at the very least, and then they arguably won the 4800 vs gt200 round. And no question they're winning right now, the gtx 460 is the only reasonable competition... and thats only on par with AMD's current offering, not better. AMD's workstation offerings aren't poor either. I'm actually surprised they haven't surpassed or at least caught up with nvidia in desktop market share. Where did you get your information?

I do have to right one wrong there, they didn't win the 4800 vs GTx200 at all, actually all there offerings were not as quick as Nvidia's.

Remember that for the price of 2 HD 4850 you spen less money that getting a GTX280, wich means that less than the half of the price and only 10% slower.... do you really think Nvidia won??

 

[TorturedChaos]

I really hope AMD/ATI doesn't get pulled under by all their loans. If all we have is Nvidia for graphics - they are going to hose us.

 

[Afroaggie]

With the way things are moving, towards the mobile market, I feel that nvidia will will eventually win out. With nvidia's tegra aimed at the ultra portable market, and as dividebyzero showed amd is actually losing grasp of the mobile market so we will be seeing a far different market share breakdown a few years from now. That being said that is just my opinion and it is always nice to see that there is a nice even split right now.

 

[aalsheh]

come on AMD, show us the new cards already

 

[Leeky]

The only interest I have is hoping AMD/Nvidia don't landslide each other one way or another in the market, because as long as things are fairly even either way, we'll all be getting good products that are continually evolving.

As a consumer I'll purchase the best item at the pricepoint I can afford. I don't care if its Nvidia or AMD, as long as its rated the best in my budget that'll do for me.

 

[Jetatt23]

AMD has been close to dropping out a couple of times now, but it's good to see they're holding a strong share in the market right now. Hopefully they can keep up through next year.

 

[LinkedKube]

There's no way amd will/can/have to drop out at any point. They are the competition. You can depend on people bailing them out if they sink.

 

[ryan29121]

63jax said:
nice to see AMD is gaining strength

I remember when Nvidia was dominating for a long time and ATI was falling further and further behind. Now it seems like they are going back and forth. Its glad to see that both companies are very competitive.

 

[uttaradhaka]

I personally think that Nvidia is still the way to go, because games like Mirror's Edge and many others after it come with Nvidia recommended and recently, Mafia 2 had special physx effects just for Nvidia cards.

If you are into serious gaming on the PC, your games will run slightly better on Nvidia cards than on AMD ones.

But still, there are some AMD cards that just undercut the Nvidia cards by a large margin and offer almost the same performance. Cards such as the new AMD 6870 are well worth a look for their performance-price ratio.

 

[kazarm]

I hope AMD will get the upper hand. The need it after all these years they where beaten by both Intel and Nvidia

 

[bioflex]

as much as i want amd to dominate the graphics hardware dept. they really have to step up when it comes to stuffs like gameing and all that.....imo nvidia owns so much in that sector.

 

[sMILEY4ever]

Well, as long as they compete, we're going to have the best bang for our buck, no matter the side we pick.

 

[frodough]

good competition = customers win

 

[Puiu]

This kind of competition between the two companies lead to very large increases in performance with every new generation of GPU's.

 

[zenpanda]

I agree. Competition is good for the consumers.

 

[peterbezemer]

Nvidia's 460 is quite a big succes in my humble opinion...

 

[Zecias]

The main reason people prefer Nvidia over AMD is cuz Nvidia has better drivers and compatability with games.