AMD Ryzen 5 1600 AF Review: Incredible Budget CPU

toooooot

TS Evangelist
I dont regret getting 2600x. It is amazing. The crappy unfinished unoptimized games I play prove it.
Those microseconds my other apps or windows take to load puts it very close to the main 9600k in my main station. The speed puts it to i5 performance in many common tasks. Maybe there are apps that AMD didn't get to optimizing but I havent found them yet.
 

toooooot

TS Evangelist
Yes, as a matter fact, we or at least I do. The review, which I suspect, you didn't read, was well reasoned and comprehensive. The '3 year old' CPU in question is more than good enough and due to its awesome price performance ratio is VERY relevant to tech enthusiasts. The Xeon chips floating around are also VERY relevant and almost as good a value,(the caveats as to platform longevity and feature sets notwithstanding), as this cheap and cheerful 6 core and its bigger newer brothers. To slag it off in such an ill considered manner is at best rude and shortsighted.
I really wanted to build a backup pc on a Dell server with double xeon cpu. But after thorough research (spent at least 10 minutes reading) I decided that for a slightly higher price, I would rather have a current PC with everything those old dell motherboards might be missing. I mean, I wasnt gonna build one at 200 300 dollars. I d have to spend 400 500 at the very least to avoid having a very low end server. And thats where I already knew I am getting close to not just a backup server, but a backup gaming machine able to run any game or having most of the parts as backup in case something breaks in my main PC.
 

tylerb1489

TS Rookie
They haven't appeared in this thread yet but there are plenty of Techspot members that refuse to believe we need anything more than four cores, 8 threads.

Just wait for them to turn up and explain that they're not needed so an upgrade path doesn't matter...
My two friends with 8600k's are complaining about 100% cpu usage and they can't even switch programs or use discord while playing COD: Modern warfare/monster hunter/anthem. They are now buying 9900k's to solve their issues, can you say "MILKED" while my friend with his 7700k is laughing. Those 8 threads have been saving him since he is normally around 85% usage instead when they ask him to compare usage in the same games like anthem as well even though that was a terribly optimized game. They usually have higher FPS then him but maxed cpu usage and stuttering/freezing issues so in a sense yes 8 threads is the bare minimum you need now days to play Triple A games and have a chrome tab open or a youtube video playing/watching a stream. My other two friends complain all the time with 6600k's that they can't do crap other than play a "real" game with nothing else open or play a esport class game while browsing/watching videos/streaming. So sad while my one friend is laughing with his r5 2600 enjoying life haha.
 
To confuse and confound the customer. What other point is there than to hurt sales and frustrate even advanced builders?
How is this confusing ? I think it's pretty clear from both the price and name that 1600 < 2600 < 3600

What could be confusing is when you see both the old and new 1600, but the former should be phased out shortly plus it seems that the AF is oddly enough cheaper than the old model.

Also, I would assume the 1600 AF is mainly aimed at the DIY market and if this is too confusing for someone then they probably shouldn't build their own PC in the first place.

If it is to be used in pre-built PC, then customers would care about getting a six core system for a good price.
 
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My two friends with 8600k's are complaining about 100% cpu usage and they can't even switch programs or use discord while playing COD: Modern warfare/monster hunter/anthem.
That would actually be a good suggestion for reviewers: Run gaming tests while simultaneously having other apps open (e.g. Discord, various background tasks like AV scanners, steam and Epyc client..., maybe even recording a stream).

Out of the initial Threadripper reviews, I really liked Kirk Johnson's review over at AdoredTV. He was running multiple stressing tasks simultaneously (playing a game, while recording, re-encoding and streaming the game and running the 4K to H.265 Handbrake benchmark all at the same time.

This really showed what TR was capable of as all tasks could be run fine - slower than each separately but all with good fps / time.

Having a simpler version of this to show the real advantages of multi core CPU (or lack thereof in case there is no difference) would be great as just running one application at a time does not really show their advantage.

julio-franco.1: How about it ?
 

Jrs One

TS Rookie
I notice the first gen Ryzen R5 1600 is running fine on X570 which annoys me big time.

I emailed AMD after the X570 release several times asking will the first gen Ryzen cpu's be compatible with this platform and each time they responded this will not be the case.

Back story is I purchased a 1700X on the cheap earlier in the year(2019) and was waiting for X570 as I only upgrade my entire system once every decade being on a tight budget. The plan was to use the 1700x until the cost of a 16 core Ryzen dropped in price then upgrade to 16 cores and utilize PCI e 4 later on.

So based off AMD's replies I purchased a Taichi X470 just to be sure the vrm could handle future cpu's easily and was fine with the decision until seeing so many first gens running fine on X570 now.
 

Karl Hungus

TS Enthusiast
I'm confused. What are they selling here?

https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B06XNRQHG4/ref=ask_ql_qh_dp_hza

https://www.newegg.ca/amd-ryzen-5-1600/p/N82E16819113435?Description=ryzen 5 1600&cm_re=ryzen_5_1600-_-19-113-435-_-Product

Either the descriptions of these are wrong or your table is incorrect showing 3.6GHz boost for the 'newer' model, and/or they're selling a completely different chip in Canada? The prices are insane here anyways, you'd be foolish not to just get a 2600X (currently the same price as the 2600 at $165 CDN) or 3600 when they're $249 CDN as they have been.
 

Gus Fring

TS Enthusiast
But if you buy a 7700K what is your upgrade path without buying a new mobo? You don't have one. A 1600AF would allow you to still upgrade to a Ryzen 3000 someday.
Upgrade paths are over-rated .. most peeps , even enthusiasts just buy the whole shebang CPU/MB/RAM.. its the gfx card that costs the money .. or by the time upgrade beckons people say dont spend money on an outdated system.. You've done that in the past
 

toooooot

TS Evangelist
Upgrade paths are over-rated .. most peeps , even enthusiasts just buy the whole shebang CPU/MB/RAM.. its the gfx card that costs the money .. or by the time upgrade beckons people say dont spend money on an outdated system.. You've done that in the past
These days looking at those low upgrade margins I become a firm believer in no updates but GPU at all. Thats where I am going with the system on z390 and 1080ti.
I will use this rig forever, and then just upgrade a gpu, maybe change the case to make my watercooled rig even better looking :) but thats all.
 
These days looking at those low upgrade margins I become a firm believer in no updates but GPU at all. Thats where I am going with the system on z390 and 1080ti.
I will use this rig forever, and then just upgrade a gpu, maybe change the case to make my watercooled rig even better looking :) but thats all.
Are there really low upgrade margins for CPU vs GPU ? Going from a Ryzen 1600 to a 3700 or 3900 should be pretty nice, waiting for Ryzen 4000 will probably be even more noticeable.

If you run with an older 4C APU, the upgrade should be even more pronounced.

Importantly, this is not an 800 upgrade but rather spending 300-400 max.
 

PedroBR

TS Rookie
Which motherboard can I pair with this processor I just bought it and don't have any idea, help! Plase
 

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