AMD Ryzen 9 5950X Review: Total Domination

[Irata]

Reminds me of a kid's song.
"Oh where, oh where is the AMD 5000 series cpu? Oh where, oh where can it be? "
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In Germany, Mindfactory had the 5600x. It was sold out a bit over an hour after the launch. Last I checked, it said „over 850 sold“, so I estimate they had around 1,000.

The product page was taken down after they sold out. Will be interesting to see when they get new stock in.

But if you really wanted one, there was no need for repeatedly hitting F5, at least there.

 

[Markoni35]

Since it's clear that in single-thread benchmarks AMD is better, it's a bit suspicious that Intel is faster in gaming tests. It's either that Intel has special deal with the leading game engine developers to favor their CPUs (in other words, to deliberately slow down AMD).

Or the leading game developers are using Intel compilers for their engines, in which of course Intel CPUs are favored (it outputs the assembly instructions which penalize AMD CPUs more than they penalize Intel CPUs).

And since Intel has been, for a long time, a dishonest corporation (remember deliberate security holes in the encryption module of the CPU), such a criminal behavior certainly shouldn't surprise us from Intel.

 

[veLa]

Well I'm grateful to you to know that we have a new KING in town.

 

[Makste]

Lisa Su tortures intel and nvidia at the same time

=Lisa Su should find a body guard.
I am positively impressed by AMD, by the time 7nm+++++ is reached I'll be in the clouds.

Thanks for your effort at making the review techspot

 

[Makste]

Since it's clear that in single-thread benchmarks AMD is better, it's a bit suspicious that Intel is faster in gaming tests. It's either that Intel has special deal with the leading game engine developers to favor their CPUs (in other words, to deliberately slow down AMD).

Or the leading game developers are using Intel compilers for their engines, in which of course Intel CPUs are favored (it outputs the assembly instructions which penalize AMD CPUs more than they penalize Intel CPUs).

And since Intel has been, for a long time, a dishonest corporation (remember deliberate security holes in the encryption module of the CPU), such a criminal behavior certainly shouldn't surprise us from Intel.

Maybe, but I'm positive that these things will resolve themselves with time. Even a developer will now want to own a 5000 series AMD cpu for his work.

 

[OortCloud]

Its a great chip, no doubt, but I did hope it would be better in single threaded performance, basically its identical to the 10900K - a chip freely available for $160 less. Given that 99.99999% of the world wont ever run any of the non-gaming benchmarks where its multithreaded performance shines I would hardly call that 'Total Domination'. Don't get me wrong, it would certainly be my choice, but the AMD frenzy on this site and other tech sites always irks me.

 

[brucek]

1. re: overclock, is there no way to configure it per-active-cores so you could retain the 5.0 for single/few cores while still dialing up the frequency for higher numbers of cores as your cooling/system allows?

2. re: gaming performance, is it possible that one area the CPU contributes to is game loading / level loading? (I.e., depending on your game, the most noticeable benefit might be a reduction in waiting vs an increase in FPS?)

3. For those deciding on whether to upgrade now or wait for the next bus: is there anything that can be said now about relative significance of Zen 4 / DDR5 / Intel? Do we know anything about Zen 3 threadripper models?

Thanks for the review!

 

[JimboJoneson]

Its a great chip, no doubt, but I did hope it would be better in single threaded performance, basically its identical to the 10900K - a chip freely available for $160 less. Given that 99.99999% of the world wont ever run any of the non-gaming benchmarks where its multithreaded performance shines I would hardly call that 'Total Domination'. Don't get me wrong, it would certainly be my choice, but the AMD frenzy on this site and other tech sites always irks me.

Are we reading the same review?

15% faster in 1t Cinebench (one thread only)
10% faster in photoshop (heavily single threaded)
15% faster in After effects (heavily single threaded)

Intel can barely muster a 5% increase gen over gen, and zen3 manages 20% single thread improvement in a single generational leap and that's not enough? ... I guess there's nothing wrong with always wanting more, but at some point expectations of want start to get into pipe dream territory.

If you meant gaming performance specifically, that isn't the same as single threaded performance.

 

[Lew Zealand]

Its a great chip, no doubt, but I did hope it would be better in single threaded performance, basically its identical to the 10900K - a chip freely available for $160 less. Given that 99.99999% of the world wont ever run any of the non-gaming benchmarks where its multithreaded performance shines I would hardly call that 'Total Domination'. Don't get me wrong, it would certainly be my choice, but the AMD frenzy on this site and other tech sites always irks me.

Why do you care about single threaded performance on 20 and 32 thread CPUs? You're doing it wrong.

 

[Irata]

Are we reading the same review?

15% faster in 1t Cinebench (one thread only)
10% faster in photoshop (heavily single threaded)
15% faster in After effects (heavily single threaded)

Intel can barely muster a 5% increase gen over gen, and zen3 manages 20% single thread improvement in a single generational leap and that's not enough? ... I guess there's nothing wrong with always wanting more, but at some point expectations of want start to get into pipe dream territory.

If you meant gaming performance specifically, that isn't the same as single threaded performance.

And there are games like CS where it gets 200 fps more than the competition. Not that 400 vs 600 fps matters but still.
Note: Even the 5600x gets that above the 10900k.

 

[Jyrkz]

Why no 4k benchmarks

 

[Lionvibez]

Don't get me wrong, it would certainly be my choice, but the AMD frenzy on this site and other tech sites always irks me.

It shouldn't irk you.

Don't have an emotional attachment to these products no matter who is making them.

 

[CanAqua]

It's only total domination until we see the 11th gens or anything from intel that's coming up. Just like with the GPU market things are only just heating up and will be for the next year with other releases from Nvidia like the Super, and TI's. My money is on Intel and Nvidia.

 

[meric]

It's only total domination until we see the 11th gens or anything from intel that's coming up. Just like with the GPU market things are only just heating up and will be for the next year with other releases from Nvidia like the Super, and TI's. My money is on Intel and Nvidia.

There's always something coming soon.

 

[total]

Please test Zen 3 on an X470 motherboard to show how much those who own one will lose.

 

[OortCloud]

Why do you care about single threaded performance on 20 and 32 thread CPUs? You're doing it wrong.

Hehe - the trouble is most people who buy these will never make use of all those cores. As I said it looks like a great chip just not 'Total Domination' hyperbole.

 

[meric]

Hehe - the trouble is most people who buy these will never make use of all those cores. As I said it looks like a great chip just not 'Total Domination' hyperbole.

In gaming, Ryzen goes toe to toe against intel counterparts in general (mostly comes on top) and "stomps" the competition in core-heavy workloads. In addition, you can get this performance on a lowly B450 board with bios update. In addition, AMD achieved an average of %20 performance gain in the same node decreasing the temps without increasing power consumtion . In addition, we didn't yet see the gaming gains (SAM etc) when paired with a new gen Radeon. How is this not dominating? Who wants less cores can go with the lesser offerings, what's to stop them?

 

[Soaptrail]

I cannot wait for the 5600X review, I see it did well at Anandtech.

 

[Strawman]

no he's prepping for the logic of intel fanboys, arguing that you need lower fps

Pretty sure that was the AMD fanboy's logic for the past 15 years

 

[tacobravo]

Too bad I can't upgrade to Zen 3 without a new mobo.

But I'm really happy that AMD finally beat Intel

 

[PEnnn]

"It’s quite a feat that you’re able to run Zen, Zen+, Zen 2 and Zen 3 CPUs all on the one motherboard,"

That alone should put Intel to eternal shame!! Needing a new motherboard each time Intel releases a new chip is just plain pathetic and reeks of incompetence.

 

[Burty117]

Is no one going to bring up @QuantumPhysics hasn't commented on this?

 

[QuantumPhysics]

Is no one going to bring up @QuantumPhysics hasn't commented on this?

Well now that you bring my attention to it, I'd only take the 10900K.

Thing is, I don't forsee myself building a new PC for years. I've spend a whole lotta money to run flight sims for the time being.

 

[zamroni111]

Amd will really kills intel when epyc zen3 floods the market.
Server processors are the market where Intel gets its most profit

 

[Burty117]

Well now that you bring my attention to it, I'd only take the 10900K.

So you'd take the slower CPU for literally no reason? Good to see you really are loyal.

Thing is, I don't forsee myself building a new PC for years. I've spend a whole lotta money to run flight sims for the time being.

Which is interesting considering it's only Microsoft Flight Sim 2020 you ever talk about (a game that's stuck on DX11 and poorly coded to the point a single thread strangles performance) of which, these new Ryzen CPU's are better at, substantially so.