AMD Ryzen now accounts for over 25% of CPUs among Steam users

[tacobravo]

AMD is making a huge push despite Intel practicing anti competitive and unethical business practices.

 

[Toju Mikie]

That 25.75% may not be just Ryzen...

I finally upgraded to 3600xt 3 weeks ago after using the FX-8350 for a long time. Had to replace motherboard and RAM as well. Huge difference in performance of course. The 3600xt is 3-4 times more powerful. That fx-8350 was forcing me to play in 720p in some newer games like warzone. Next up is to replace my GTX 1070, but I might wait a little longer. I wanted to buy a pcie4 ssd, but it was too expensive. I am excited to see what AMD and Intel release on the GPU side as well. Hopefully, they are competitive products.

 

[Mister_K]

And Steam users account for less than 0.01% of all PC users.

You telling me most people aren't gamers?

 

[veLa]

I'm all about team red.

Let's hope they can take on team green as well.

 

[Lew Zealand]

Imagine if this stat was reported by % of total cores...

As to the 0.01% BS, it's even worse than what Theinsanegamer said: 0.01% is 1/10,000, meaning that there would need to be 900 billion PCs for Steam's 90 million *active monthly* users to be only 0.01% of them. That'd be 115 PCs for every man, woman, and child on the planet.

btw it was actually 95 million active monthly in 2019, and they had 20.3 million *concurrent* (active simultaneously) in March 2020.

All that said I don't know how many of those users are included in the hardware survey report (not sure if its 100% or sampled, although it could be representative of their user base either way.)

FYI it's definitely not 100% sampled as I have 5 gaming machines in various areas with various users on them and I only see about 1 Steam Hardware Survey request over all of them maybe every 3 months or so. So they're sampling far less than 10%.

 

[dirtyferret]

Id warn you to stay away from the 9700Ks. So many reporting issues either because of no hyperthreading or games simply not optimizing for them, likely due to no HT. So let the 9th gen die as it should. They arent worth the headaches, maybe the i9 but it too has had its issues.

Lol,what a load of crap

 

[Bcbigseller]

It's even crazier that everyone is dropping coin for a 3080 when the desired framerate of old card is still within their current monitor. If u look at 2080ti min framerate vs 3080 it's barely different. Who even has a 60hz plus 4k monitor

 

[Morris Minor]

Yeah, im always asked if I want to participate in the steam survey. how are these non used accounts clicking on the button when they are not used?

 

[texasrattler]

Lol,what a load of crap

Try looking things up. There is tons of info and issues with various games running a 9700K.
I would know too since I've owned one since April 2019. Apex dev even came out n said they had issues with 9th gen processors. Warzone has tons of ppl running a 9700K having high cup usage despite not running anything else in the background. Is it because of not having HT or simply games not being optimized, maybe a combination of both.
Why even buy something thats outdated when something better is out/coming.

 

[Ludak021]

It's better not to speak than seem a .....

Your initial statement didn't even survive a sniff test- I I could spout other speculation as well - steam users care about FPS so they buy Intel - so ergo this means is worse in general non-gaming pop.

Most readers know the Steam survey has collecting flaws - but the basic premise is easily pass the gold std of 7 std deviations of a TREND towards AMD . Why are you so concerned to spout & defend ridiculously stats.

Everything has collecting flaws. And 99% of those collecting shouldn't be doing it, and half of them are breaking one law or another.
I will even assert that 90% of Cinebench users use AMD CPU, and that 70% of those are reviewers.

 

[dirtyferret]

Try looking things up. There is tons of info and issues with various games running a 9700K.
I would know too since I've owned one since April 2019. Apex dev even came out n said they had issues with 9th gen processors. Warzone has tons of ppl running a 9700K having high cup usage despite not running anything else in the background. Is it because of not having HT or simply games not being optimized, maybe a combination of both.
Why even buy something thats outdated when something better is out/coming.

Lol, link a professional review not fan boys trying to justify their purchase and watching "their" brand get inferior benchmarks

 

[defaultluser]

I love it when AMD is catching up, more competition is great, but Intel only improved a five years old architecture so far, so if another Core2duo moment arrives, don`t be surprised.

There won't be another Core 2 moment, at least under under current AMD leadership.

The reason Core 2 was made so easy was because AMD had given up advancing IPC after the Athlon 64. This was because AMD was managing three things it doesn't have to today:

1. Fab that they owned having new 65nm process node technical issues (which they-alone were responsible to fix)

2. Merger with ATI would take 5 years to resolve Bulk Silicon vs Silicon on Insulator library/tool conversions (and was only used for Llano and Trinity)

3. Late-to-market Phenom having huge yield issues plus TLB cache error meant they wasted more time fixing their own issues (went native quad-core before they had the die space to make it all work together).

AMD of today has vastly batter market position, and has proven already a willingness to iterate Zen in a faster timeline than Intel. Their leadership is no-longer pointlessly shooting for the moon (after the Athlon 64, they ran out of ideas, and just started laying-on the cores.)

And even though TSMC could run into trouble, just ask Nvidia how easy it would be to transition over to Samsung for the next Zen? Intel will be stuck dealing with the same fab troubles, but with no real fabrication contracts driving them to be better.

Intel has also grown into a massive conglomerate in the last 15 years, and now has hundreds of different pieces of technology it has to spend manpower in each processor revision - it was a lot easier for the company to dump money into cache prefetch development plus the necessary fabs plus the widest architecture they ever built in 2003-2006 time-frame, than it would be to bring that all together today.

 

[texasrattler]

Lol, link a professional review not fan boys trying to justify their purchase and watching "their" brand get inferior benchmarks

Again I own it and can see the issues. Also I did say you can look it up. Do you not know how to research things? I dont need to prove anything. You can find info out.

 

[dirtyferret]

Again I own it and can see the issues. Also I did say you can look it up. Do you not know how to research things? I dont need to prove anything. You can find info out.

I'm not the one who made the inaccurate statement. If I came out and said the AMD RX 5700XT is faster then the Nvidia RTX2080ti and someone asked for a professional review link would "Do you not know how to research things? I dont need to prove anything. You can find info out." be an acceptable answer from me? Or would it simply be getting caught making a false statement and back tracking from it as quick as possible?

 

[toooooot]

Hail AMD!

 

[kiwigraeme]

Everything has collecting flaws. And 99% of those collecting shouldn't be doing it, and half of them are breaking one law or another.
I will even assert that 90% of Cinebench users use AMD CPU, and that 70% of those are reviewers.

Stats are hard - it's one of my pet peeves how they are misused - Now in some countries Judges are given some training on them - but they are horribly mis-used in court.

I had to do Introduction to Stats for my degree - didn't help myself by going to no lectures or tutorials - only a 1 hour exam ( as opposed to real courses with 3 hours ) - still managed to pass with no swatting on high school maths - but was trying to remember which distributions to use - Always have a fondness for Poisson - as one week at the supermarket on Tuesday 11am - all check out operators going flat out - next week half doing nothing . It has such real world application.

At least the public should at least know the difference between median and average.

I've read that most published papers have one or many of structural, procedural, framing/assumptive , interpretation , statistical errors etc

 

[Edster]

Data doesn't have to be totally representative of all groups combined, just that it is representative of the groups they claim to cover. So long as you are happy that it is accurate data from Steam. There is a lot of argument about how relevant or representative it is, sure there is always questions but is the sentiment wrong? AMD is doing quite well from a position of irrelevance a few years ago.

This is especially so when a lot of the users are laptop owners, which has been Intel dominated in both supply and in availability for higher end models, so this shows how much control AMD has over the enthusiast market, especially is only gen 3 Ryzen when it is for most price point, the better product.

 

[Gastec]

That is factually incorrect. Steam has 90 million active monthly users. For that <0.01% number to be true, there would have to be over 9 billion total PC users on earth. I dont need to tell you why that is hilariously off base from your estimate. (here's a hint, windows makes up the vast majority of PC users and is estimated to have roughly 1.5 billion active users as of january 2020). Based on that number Steam makes up 0.06% of the market.

It's also spiritually incorrect. Steam is present on the vast majority of gaming PCs today, and is a decent representation of the PC gaming space, a small but very profitable niche of the PC space.

I don't know how or when they measure those "monthly" users but I have been using Steam for over a decade. I don't play video games every day or even every month but I try to log in every week. I could play everyday for 2 months and then I could take a pause for 3 months.

 

[Avro Arrow]

Good INTEL deserves bad Karma for their disgusting business ethics.

Yep, and hopefully, with the release of RDNA2, it will be nVidia's turn to pay the piper.

 

[Avro Arrow]

And Steam users account for less than 0.01% of all PC users.

Hell of a news though, if you like to put a spin on a dime.

Absolute nonsense. I don't know what drove you to say such balderdash but that's all it is.

 

[Dimitrios]

Yep, and hopefully, with the release of RDNA2, it will be nVidia's turn to pay the piper.

Hitting 2 birds with one stone.......................

 

[Avro Arrow]

Hitting 2 birds with one stone.......................

IIRC, stones are often made of silicon.

 

[texasrattler]

I'm not the one who made the inaccurate statement. If I came out and said the AMD RX 5700XT is faster then the Nvidia RTX2080ti and someone asked for a professional review link would "Do you not know how to research things? I dont need to prove anything. You can find info out." be an acceptable answer from me? Or would it simply be getting caught making a false statement and back tracking from it as quick as possible?

I am the facts. If you need proof you can look stuff up as I did. I could careless what you or anyone thinks. Nothing I've said is even close to false. Again do some research before calling bs on stuff you obviously have no clue on. Its called research for a reason.

 

[dirtyferret]

I am the facts. If you need proof you can look stuff up as I did. I could careless what you or anyone thinks. Nothing I've said is even close to false. Again do some research before calling bs on stuff you obviously have no clue on. Its called research for a reason.

You...are...the...facts...lol. you are fake then